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February 16, 2008 at 5:52 AM #154445February 16, 2008 at 5:52 AM #154523
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ParticipantBubblesitter…I saw that UT article yesterday. Did you catch the comment about how residents of San Marcos (specifically, San Elijo Hills, as I recall) kept Wal-Mart out?
May 27, 2008 at 9:21 PM #212303Bubblesitter
ParticipantHere’s an update on the proposed Walmart in Carlsbad…..Looks like a no go.
Perhaps the protesters and the signs did make a small difference?
CARLSBAD: Wal-Mart drops building plans
Company won’t put upscale store in Carlsbad
By BARBARA HENRY – Staff Writer | Tuesday, May 27, 2008 8:15 PM PDT ∞CARLSBAD —- The city was supposed to get the nicest Wal-Mart in the nation, a place with $100 bottles of wine. But it’s not going to happen.
Wal-Mart officials announced Tuesday afternoon that they have dropped their plans to build a small store at El Camino Real and College Boulevard. They’re planning to put the 17-acre site back on the market, they said.
John Mendez, spokesman for Wal-Mart’s Southern California region, said his company has decided to focus on building more of its supercenters —- giant discount stores that have full supermarkets as well as clothing and home goods. The proposal to build a small, upscale version of a Wal-Mart discount store doesn’t fit with that business model, he said.
There were other factors working against the Carlsbad proposal —- a recently troubled national economy, plus a less than enthusiastic welcome from city officials and neighboring property owners.
“In the long run, I think it’s a good thing,” Carlsbad Mayor Bud Lewis said Tuesday afternoon after meeting privately with Wal-Mart officials.
Lewis added that people who like to shop at the discount retailer already have plenty of local options because Wal-Mart has several stores in neighboring communities.
“We have said for a long time that those stores are good for other communities, but we didn’t want them,” Lewis said.
Carlsbad has long been North County’s least receptive spot for what are termed “big box” projects —- large, free-standing stores. The city has had its strict shopping-center zoning requirements in place since the early 1990s, when Price Club opened its huge warehouse-style structure on Palomar Airport Road. The construction of that store, which eventually became a Costco, divided the community and led to a requirement that large stores must be part of a shopping center complex rather than standing on their own.
That rule has essentially blocked any new giant stores from coming to town because there’s a shortage of appropriately zoned land for large shopping center complexes.
After word spread last fall that Wal-Mart had bought property in town, company leaders said they were envisioning a different sort of store for Carlsbad. One company official called it an “absolute paradigm shift,” saying it would look more like a high-end shopping center than a discount store.
City Planning Director Don Neu said city officials were surprised to hear Wal-Mart was dropping its plans, but said they had always known the project would be a difficult fit for the lot because of its zoning.
“I think from that perspective we felt it was going to be an uphill battle in terms of trying to make a Wal-Mart fit into that local shopping center zone,” he said.
The 17-acre site is zoned for something like the recently built Henry’s grocery store and other small shops at La Costa Avenue and Camino de los Coches, he said.
Though the company had met with the city’s planning department, no formal building plans were ever filed, Neu said, adding that he hopes whoever purchases the lot knows what they’re buying.
“Hopefully, whoever is looking at it will do some due diligence about what can be put on it,” he said.
Contact staff writer Barbara Henry at (760) 901-4072 or [email protected]. Comment at nctimes.com.
May 27, 2008 at 9:21 PM #212375ParticipantHere’s an update on the proposed Walmart in Carlsbad…..Looks like a no go.
Perhaps the protesters and the signs did make a small difference?
CARLSBAD: Wal-Mart drops building plans
Company won’t put upscale store in Carlsbad
By BARBARA HENRY – Staff Writer | Tuesday, May 27, 2008 8:15 PM PDT ∞CARLSBAD —- The city was supposed to get the nicest Wal-Mart in the nation, a place with $100 bottles of wine. But it’s not going to happen.
Wal-Mart officials announced Tuesday afternoon that they have dropped their plans to build a small store at El Camino Real and College Boulevard. They’re planning to put the 17-acre site back on the market, they said.
John Mendez, spokesman for Wal-Mart’s Southern California region, said his company has decided to focus on building more of its supercenters —- giant discount stores that have full supermarkets as well as clothing and home goods. The proposal to build a small, upscale version of a Wal-Mart discount store doesn’t fit with that business model, he said.
There were other factors working against the Carlsbad proposal —- a recently troubled national economy, plus a less than enthusiastic welcome from city officials and neighboring property owners.
“In the long run, I think it’s a good thing,” Carlsbad Mayor Bud Lewis said Tuesday afternoon after meeting privately with Wal-Mart officials.
Lewis added that people who like to shop at the discount retailer already have plenty of local options because Wal-Mart has several stores in neighboring communities.
“We have said for a long time that those stores are good for other communities, but we didn’t want them,” Lewis said.
Carlsbad has long been North County’s least receptive spot for what are termed “big box” projects —- large, free-standing stores. The city has had its strict shopping-center zoning requirements in place since the early 1990s, when Price Club opened its huge warehouse-style structure on Palomar Airport Road. The construction of that store, which eventually became a Costco, divided the community and led to a requirement that large stores must be part of a shopping center complex rather than standing on their own.
That rule has essentially blocked any new giant stores from coming to town because there’s a shortage of appropriately zoned land for large shopping center complexes.
After word spread last fall that Wal-Mart had bought property in town, company leaders said they were envisioning a different sort of store for Carlsbad. One company official called it an “absolute paradigm shift,” saying it would look more like a high-end shopping center than a discount store.
City Planning Director Don Neu said city officials were surprised to hear Wal-Mart was dropping its plans, but said they had always known the project would be a difficult fit for the lot because of its zoning.
“I think from that perspective we felt it was going to be an uphill battle in terms of trying to make a Wal-Mart fit into that local shopping center zone,” he said.
The 17-acre site is zoned for something like the recently built Henry’s grocery store and other small shops at La Costa Avenue and Camino de los Coches, he said.
Though the company had met with the city’s planning department, no formal building plans were ever filed, Neu said, adding that he hopes whoever purchases the lot knows what they’re buying.
“Hopefully, whoever is looking at it will do some due diligence about what can be put on it,” he said.
Contact staff writer Barbara Henry at (760) 901-4072 or [email protected]. Comment at nctimes.com.
May 27, 2008 at 9:21 PM #212404ParticipantHere’s an update on the proposed Walmart in Carlsbad…..Looks like a no go.
Perhaps the protesters and the signs did make a small difference?
CARLSBAD: Wal-Mart drops building plans
Company won’t put upscale store in Carlsbad
By BARBARA HENRY – Staff Writer | Tuesday, May 27, 2008 8:15 PM PDT ∞CARLSBAD —- The city was supposed to get the nicest Wal-Mart in the nation, a place with $100 bottles of wine. But it’s not going to happen.
Wal-Mart officials announced Tuesday afternoon that they have dropped their plans to build a small store at El Camino Real and College Boulevard. They’re planning to put the 17-acre site back on the market, they said.
John Mendez, spokesman for Wal-Mart’s Southern California region, said his company has decided to focus on building more of its supercenters —- giant discount stores that have full supermarkets as well as clothing and home goods. The proposal to build a small, upscale version of a Wal-Mart discount store doesn’t fit with that business model, he said.
There were other factors working against the Carlsbad proposal —- a recently troubled national economy, plus a less than enthusiastic welcome from city officials and neighboring property owners.
“In the long run, I think it’s a good thing,” Carlsbad Mayor Bud Lewis said Tuesday afternoon after meeting privately with Wal-Mart officials.
Lewis added that people who like to shop at the discount retailer already have plenty of local options because Wal-Mart has several stores in neighboring communities.
“We have said for a long time that those stores are good for other communities, but we didn’t want them,” Lewis said.
Carlsbad has long been North County’s least receptive spot for what are termed “big box” projects —- large, free-standing stores. The city has had its strict shopping-center zoning requirements in place since the early 1990s, when Price Club opened its huge warehouse-style structure on Palomar Airport Road. The construction of that store, which eventually became a Costco, divided the community and led to a requirement that large stores must be part of a shopping center complex rather than standing on their own.
That rule has essentially blocked any new giant stores from coming to town because there’s a shortage of appropriately zoned land for large shopping center complexes.
After word spread last fall that Wal-Mart had bought property in town, company leaders said they were envisioning a different sort of store for Carlsbad. One company official called it an “absolute paradigm shift,” saying it would look more like a high-end shopping center than a discount store.
City Planning Director Don Neu said city officials were surprised to hear Wal-Mart was dropping its plans, but said they had always known the project would be a difficult fit for the lot because of its zoning.
“I think from that perspective we felt it was going to be an uphill battle in terms of trying to make a Wal-Mart fit into that local shopping center zone,” he said.
The 17-acre site is zoned for something like the recently built Henry’s grocery store and other small shops at La Costa Avenue and Camino de los Coches, he said.
Though the company had met with the city’s planning department, no formal building plans were ever filed, Neu said, adding that he hopes whoever purchases the lot knows what they’re buying.
“Hopefully, whoever is looking at it will do some due diligence about what can be put on it,” he said.
Contact staff writer Barbara Henry at (760) 901-4072 or [email protected]. Comment at nctimes.com.
May 27, 2008 at 9:21 PM #212425ParticipantHere’s an update on the proposed Walmart in Carlsbad…..Looks like a no go.
Perhaps the protesters and the signs did make a small difference?
CARLSBAD: Wal-Mart drops building plans
Company won’t put upscale store in Carlsbad
By BARBARA HENRY – Staff Writer | Tuesday, May 27, 2008 8:15 PM PDT ∞CARLSBAD —- The city was supposed to get the nicest Wal-Mart in the nation, a place with $100 bottles of wine. But it’s not going to happen.
Wal-Mart officials announced Tuesday afternoon that they have dropped their plans to build a small store at El Camino Real and College Boulevard. They’re planning to put the 17-acre site back on the market, they said.
John Mendez, spokesman for Wal-Mart’s Southern California region, said his company has decided to focus on building more of its supercenters —- giant discount stores that have full supermarkets as well as clothing and home goods. The proposal to build a small, upscale version of a Wal-Mart discount store doesn’t fit with that business model, he said.
There were other factors working against the Carlsbad proposal —- a recently troubled national economy, plus a less than enthusiastic welcome from city officials and neighboring property owners.
“In the long run, I think it’s a good thing,” Carlsbad Mayor Bud Lewis said Tuesday afternoon after meeting privately with Wal-Mart officials.
Lewis added that people who like to shop at the discount retailer already have plenty of local options because Wal-Mart has several stores in neighboring communities.
“We have said for a long time that those stores are good for other communities, but we didn’t want them,” Lewis said.
Carlsbad has long been North County’s least receptive spot for what are termed “big box” projects —- large, free-standing stores. The city has had its strict shopping-center zoning requirements in place since the early 1990s, when Price Club opened its huge warehouse-style structure on Palomar Airport Road. The construction of that store, which eventually became a Costco, divided the community and led to a requirement that large stores must be part of a shopping center complex rather than standing on their own.
That rule has essentially blocked any new giant stores from coming to town because there’s a shortage of appropriately zoned land for large shopping center complexes.
After word spread last fall that Wal-Mart had bought property in town, company leaders said they were envisioning a different sort of store for Carlsbad. One company official called it an “absolute paradigm shift,” saying it would look more like a high-end shopping center than a discount store.
City Planning Director Don Neu said city officials were surprised to hear Wal-Mart was dropping its plans, but said they had always known the project would be a difficult fit for the lot because of its zoning.
“I think from that perspective we felt it was going to be an uphill battle in terms of trying to make a Wal-Mart fit into that local shopping center zone,” he said.
The 17-acre site is zoned for something like the recently built Henry’s grocery store and other small shops at La Costa Avenue and Camino de los Coches, he said.
Though the company had met with the city’s planning department, no formal building plans were ever filed, Neu said, adding that he hopes whoever purchases the lot knows what they’re buying.
“Hopefully, whoever is looking at it will do some due diligence about what can be put on it,” he said.
Contact staff writer Barbara Henry at (760) 901-4072 or [email protected]. Comment at nctimes.com.
May 27, 2008 at 9:21 PM #212455ParticipantHere’s an update on the proposed Walmart in Carlsbad…..Looks like a no go.
Perhaps the protesters and the signs did make a small difference?
CARLSBAD: Wal-Mart drops building plans
Company won’t put upscale store in Carlsbad
By BARBARA HENRY – Staff Writer | Tuesday, May 27, 2008 8:15 PM PDT ∞CARLSBAD —- The city was supposed to get the nicest Wal-Mart in the nation, a place with $100 bottles of wine. But it’s not going to happen.
Wal-Mart officials announced Tuesday afternoon that they have dropped their plans to build a small store at El Camino Real and College Boulevard. They’re planning to put the 17-acre site back on the market, they said.
John Mendez, spokesman for Wal-Mart’s Southern California region, said his company has decided to focus on building more of its supercenters —- giant discount stores that have full supermarkets as well as clothing and home goods. The proposal to build a small, upscale version of a Wal-Mart discount store doesn’t fit with that business model, he said.
There were other factors working against the Carlsbad proposal —- a recently troubled national economy, plus a less than enthusiastic welcome from city officials and neighboring property owners.
“In the long run, I think it’s a good thing,” Carlsbad Mayor Bud Lewis said Tuesday afternoon after meeting privately with Wal-Mart officials.
Lewis added that people who like to shop at the discount retailer already have plenty of local options because Wal-Mart has several stores in neighboring communities.
“We have said for a long time that those stores are good for other communities, but we didn’t want them,” Lewis said.
Carlsbad has long been North County’s least receptive spot for what are termed “big box” projects —- large, free-standing stores. The city has had its strict shopping-center zoning requirements in place since the early 1990s, when Price Club opened its huge warehouse-style structure on Palomar Airport Road. The construction of that store, which eventually became a Costco, divided the community and led to a requirement that large stores must be part of a shopping center complex rather than standing on their own.
That rule has essentially blocked any new giant stores from coming to town because there’s a shortage of appropriately zoned land for large shopping center complexes.
After word spread last fall that Wal-Mart had bought property in town, company leaders said they were envisioning a different sort of store for Carlsbad. One company official called it an “absolute paradigm shift,” saying it would look more like a high-end shopping center than a discount store.
City Planning Director Don Neu said city officials were surprised to hear Wal-Mart was dropping its plans, but said they had always known the project would be a difficult fit for the lot because of its zoning.
“I think from that perspective we felt it was going to be an uphill battle in terms of trying to make a Wal-Mart fit into that local shopping center zone,” he said.
The 17-acre site is zoned for something like the recently built Henry’s grocery store and other small shops at La Costa Avenue and Camino de los Coches, he said.
Though the company had met with the city’s planning department, no formal building plans were ever filed, Neu said, adding that he hopes whoever purchases the lot knows what they’re buying.
“Hopefully, whoever is looking at it will do some due diligence about what can be put on it,” he said.
Contact staff writer Barbara Henry at (760) 901-4072 or [email protected]. Comment at nctimes.com.
May 28, 2008 at 9:16 AM #212523meadandale
ParticipantYou’d think that with gas pushing $5/gal that people would start embracing having places to shop near where they live so they don’t have to drive 10 miles to the store.
Guess the snooty carlsbad folks can still afford to fuel up the beemers, audis and expeditions and just don’t care. Glad I don’t live up there.
May 28, 2008 at 9:16 AM #212597ParticipantYou’d think that with gas pushing $5/gal that people would start embracing having places to shop near where they live so they don’t have to drive 10 miles to the store.
Guess the snooty carlsbad folks can still afford to fuel up the beemers, audis and expeditions and just don’t care. Glad I don’t live up there.
May 28, 2008 at 9:16 AM #212624ParticipantYou’d think that with gas pushing $5/gal that people would start embracing having places to shop near where they live so they don’t have to drive 10 miles to the store.
Guess the snooty carlsbad folks can still afford to fuel up the beemers, audis and expeditions and just don’t care. Glad I don’t live up there.
May 28, 2008 at 9:16 AM #212645ParticipantYou’d think that with gas pushing $5/gal that people would start embracing having places to shop near where they live so they don’t have to drive 10 miles to the store.
Guess the snooty carlsbad folks can still afford to fuel up the beemers, audis and expeditions and just don’t care. Glad I don’t live up there.
May 28, 2008 at 9:16 AM #212675ParticipantYou’d think that with gas pushing $5/gal that people would start embracing having places to shop near where they live so they don’t have to drive 10 miles to the store.
Guess the snooty carlsbad folks can still afford to fuel up the beemers, audis and expeditions and just don’t care. Glad I don’t live up there.
May 28, 2008 at 9:50 AM #212588Anonymous
GuestWell, guys, this is nothing more than snobbery. With gas prices approaching $5 a gallon, I’ve been shopping at Wal-mart more frequently. Even if gas prices weren’t so high, they have some good prices. Why pay more at Target, CVS, or your favorite grocery store?
Having said that, I can understand the concern. One time while in Walmart, a cashier pulled a handkerchief out of ther pocket to wipe her nose, and it was FILTHY! I changed checkout lanes, and quick. You shouldn’t find something like that going on in a high-end store.
The reality is that Walmart is going to attract the poor to the community, workers as well as shoppers, and all that comes with it.
I can see why this is a no-go, why should Walmart cater to Carlsbad and put in an upscale store when the company is doing fine with the type of stores it has.
May 28, 2008 at 9:50 AM #212663GuestWell, guys, this is nothing more than snobbery. With gas prices approaching $5 a gallon, I’ve been shopping at Wal-mart more frequently. Even if gas prices weren’t so high, they have some good prices. Why pay more at Target, CVS, or your favorite grocery store?
Having said that, I can understand the concern. One time while in Walmart, a cashier pulled a handkerchief out of ther pocket to wipe her nose, and it was FILTHY! I changed checkout lanes, and quick. You shouldn’t find something like that going on in a high-end store.
The reality is that Walmart is going to attract the poor to the community, workers as well as shoppers, and all that comes with it.
I can see why this is a no-go, why should Walmart cater to Carlsbad and put in an upscale store when the company is doing fine with the type of stores it has.
May 28, 2008 at 9:50 AM #212689GuestWell, guys, this is nothing more than snobbery. With gas prices approaching $5 a gallon, I’ve been shopping at Wal-mart more frequently. Even if gas prices weren’t so high, they have some good prices. Why pay more at Target, CVS, or your favorite grocery store?
Having said that, I can understand the concern. One time while in Walmart, a cashier pulled a handkerchief out of ther pocket to wipe her nose, and it was FILTHY! I changed checkout lanes, and quick. You shouldn’t find something like that going on in a high-end store.
The reality is that Walmart is going to attract the poor to the community, workers as well as shoppers, and all that comes with it.
I can see why this is a no-go, why should Walmart cater to Carlsbad and put in an upscale store when the company is doing fine with the type of stores it has.
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