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August 2, 2007 at 12:07 PM #69583August 2, 2007 at 12:07 PM #69657jeemanParticipant
People hate Walmart because low prices mean low wage slavery and low quality goods.
But go to a Target, and buy the same exact product for 20% more and all of a sudden, it’s good quality and good wages.
Some people just hate success in this country. The same people who “love” the poor want them to pay more for the same goods.
Jeeman
August 2, 2007 at 2:25 PM #69658CarlsbadlivingParticipantIf you hate Walmart so much, then stop shopping there. It’s pretty easy to send a message in a free market. Don’t give them your business.
However, I will tell you that it will be their highest end store in the country and won’t even look like a wal-mart. It’s funny because if they were to put a different name on the front door then nobody would care.
I can also guarantee you that all the people complaining about this will be shopping there as soon as it opens.
August 2, 2007 at 2:25 PM #69733CarlsbadlivingParticipantIf you hate Walmart so much, then stop shopping there. It’s pretty easy to send a message in a free market. Don’t give them your business.
However, I will tell you that it will be their highest end store in the country and won’t even look like a wal-mart. It’s funny because if they were to put a different name on the front door then nobody would care.
I can also guarantee you that all the people complaining about this will be shopping there as soon as it opens.
August 2, 2007 at 2:50 PM #69671stop_the_bubble_hypeParticipantInteresting article on the development. I don’t believe someone actually used high-end and Wal-Mart in the same sentence.
The comments below the article make for good entertainment.
http://www.nctimes.com/articles/2007/07/20/business/news/20_33_937_20_07.txt
August 2, 2007 at 2:50 PM #69745stop_the_bubble_hypeParticipantInteresting article on the development. I don’t believe someone actually used high-end and Wal-Mart in the same sentence.
The comments below the article make for good entertainment.
http://www.nctimes.com/articles/2007/07/20/business/news/20_33_937_20_07.txt
August 2, 2007 at 3:02 PM #69679lindismithParticipantMaybe the city should just change it’s name to Carlsmart?
People don’t like Walmart because they put the little guys out of business. How can American companies compete with factories in China paying 60 cents an hour? The thing is though, it won’t last forever. I do business in China, and my agent told me cheap imports will only be available about another 8 years, because their standard of living is rising so fast. 60 cents today, $1.20 next year?
August 2, 2007 at 3:02 PM #69753lindismithParticipantMaybe the city should just change it’s name to Carlsmart?
People don’t like Walmart because they put the little guys out of business. How can American companies compete with factories in China paying 60 cents an hour? The thing is though, it won’t last forever. I do business in China, and my agent told me cheap imports will only be available about another 8 years, because their standard of living is rising so fast. 60 cents today, $1.20 next year?
August 2, 2007 at 9:58 PM #69782BubblesitterParticipantHey Carlsbadliving,
Have you ever heard of a “high-end” Walmart? I’m willing to bet this thing is gonna end up as an eyesore resulting in more traffic congestion. Big box retailers ALWAYS result in much higher congestion than smaller zoned retail. I’ve heard of other big box retailers using techniques like this before. Walmart is especially adept at it. Once they have zoning approval, this “high-end” Walmart will end up with a slightly nicer facade. It will be identical every other Walmart in every other way!!Carlsbad is becoming way overdeveloped and looking more and more like Oceanside. No offense to you Oceanside residents. Aren’t you concerned about your “Carlsbad living” lifestyle. If you are a homeowner, aren’t you concerned about your property value? I believe many would be less inclined to purchase property in NE Carlsbad. At what point would you take a stand if you saw your hometown going down a sh*t hole.
August 2, 2007 at 9:58 PM #69857BubblesitterParticipantHey Carlsbadliving,
Have you ever heard of a “high-end” Walmart? I’m willing to bet this thing is gonna end up as an eyesore resulting in more traffic congestion. Big box retailers ALWAYS result in much higher congestion than smaller zoned retail. I’ve heard of other big box retailers using techniques like this before. Walmart is especially adept at it. Once they have zoning approval, this “high-end” Walmart will end up with a slightly nicer facade. It will be identical every other Walmart in every other way!!Carlsbad is becoming way overdeveloped and looking more and more like Oceanside. No offense to you Oceanside residents. Aren’t you concerned about your “Carlsbad living” lifestyle. If you are a homeowner, aren’t you concerned about your property value? I believe many would be less inclined to purchase property in NE Carlsbad. At what point would you take a stand if you saw your hometown going down a sh*t hole.
August 2, 2007 at 11:42 PM #69806bob007Participantwal mart is trying to attract high end customers without losing their mass market customer base. it has not been successful.
August 2, 2007 at 11:42 PM #69881bob007Participantwal mart is trying to attract high end customers without losing their mass market customer base. it has not been successful.
August 3, 2007 at 8:08 AM #69840lindismithParticipantfrom a story last year:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11957536/Honestly, are “high-end electronics, more fine jewelry, hundreds of types of wine ranging up to $500 a bottle, and even a sushi bar,” really going to make a difference?
And if it does, does this mean they’re going to pay their employees more money? I mean, am I really going to ask someone making minimum wage to help me select fine wine?
The store will not be fundamentally different. They will still push their loss leaders at everyone so milk will be cheap. Housing in the surrounding area will be cheapened also.
August 3, 2007 at 8:08 AM #69915lindismithParticipantfrom a story last year:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11957536/Honestly, are “high-end electronics, more fine jewelry, hundreds of types of wine ranging up to $500 a bottle, and even a sushi bar,” really going to make a difference?
And if it does, does this mean they’re going to pay their employees more money? I mean, am I really going to ask someone making minimum wage to help me select fine wine?
The store will not be fundamentally different. They will still push their loss leaders at everyone so milk will be cheap. Housing in the surrounding area will be cheapened also.
August 3, 2007 at 8:15 AM #69838CoronitaParticipantwal mart is trying to attract high end customers without losing their mass market customer base. it has not been successful.
Gee. I wonder why… π
What I find interesting is that some many people complain about jobs being outsourced….Then go to these stores to buy crap made by $.60/hr labor that replaced them. On one hand, folks complain about being outsourced to cheaper labor. On the other hand, folks aren't willing to pay more. Why buy a $20 craftsman tool set from sears made in USA when you can buy the $4.99 special from walmart made in china?
…and now americans complaining are about product safety from china made goods…Hello..welcome to yesterday..What world are you from??? Since when would companies in China be concerned about product safety. I see horrendous accounts from relatives of pollution from textile industries over there… Dumping color dyes used for fabric into streams and lakes where local villages get their water supply from… Is the really a surprise. that these companies would cut corners as much as possible at every possibility. Food, toys,etc.
I stopped going to Ranch 99 on Clairemont to buy the seafood. It's much cheaper than vons, etc….But, most of the stuff comes from china, and I have suspicion most of the seafood has been baked in mercury and other preservatives during transport. It was no surprise recently when they affixed a warning label to the fish tanks "state of california label about possible cancer causing agents..yada, yada yada".
I'm just waiting for the CPSC to start testing the dye used on clothes made from China to see what results that brings up.
The good news for china is that if they wanted to take over the U.S., they wouldn't need to fight a war. They just need to poison our kids by putting lead paint in toys π
And now, I present you the first disposable Made in China car to be exported to Europe and America. The Brilliance BS6 (and how appropriately it is named BS)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-9RbZyrJQ4g
Never mind of the 1 star crash test rating (how does one even earn 1 star???) Coming soon to your walmart near you π
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