Using unlicensed contractors

[kcal09]

I am aware that one should not hire unlicensed contractors. However, there are some really capable ones out there that can do a job for much less money. Would you ever consider an unlicensed contractor for a remodel if you can save a lot of money? Also, can we get a permit if we use somebody unlicensed?

[spdrun]

I’d sooner consider whether they can do the job capably than whether they have some bureaucrat’s blessing.

[NotCranky]

You can get a permit if you use an unlicensed contractor by stating that you are owner builder on the plan check paper work.

There is some language in there about workman’s comp and stuff for workers under the owner I think , been a while maybe some language about liability on other issues too.

The builder of record is going to be liable for construction defects going forward. I am not sure how long for a remodel maybe ten years for some components like slab or roof, like I said it’s all getting vague now …probably isn’t a problem very often.

Many if not most licensed contractors use unlicensed sub- contractors at times. On a lot of jobs the owner is in on it for a better price…but make sure you are not in on it for a higher price of all licensed bonded and insured subs. Don’t know who is on the hook for worker’s comp or liability in these cases. Just stuff to think about.

[njtosd]

You might want to read this:

http://www.berding-weil.net/articles/dangers-of-hiring-unlicensed-contractor.php

[all]

[quote=njtosd]You might want to read this:

http://www.berding-weil.net/articles/dangers-of-hiring-unlicensed-contractor.php%5B/quote%5D

“Unlicensed contractors rarely apply and obtain the proper permits required for the work that they will be doing.”

Is this how ‘fear mongering’ is spelled in legalese? Do they apply and obtain improper permits instead?

Yes, you can get a permit. You probably want the permit, especially if you are making changes visible from the outside. Also, anybody can request and attend inspection – the person calling in and the person dealing with the inspector does not need any kind of credentials and it does not have to be the person signed on the permit.

[Edit] The cost of material and the cost of labor is way up since 2009-2011. Waiting, assuming it is an option, might save you more money.

[FlyerInHi]

I don’t ask, and they don’t tell.

For the small stuff, I don’t sweat it. I just make progress payments as things move along.

If I had to do structural changes, then I might looking into a formal bid, contracts, etc… But for remodeling jobs, there’s no need.

If you know nothing about how things should be done, then you may need more hand-holding. However, there’s no point hiring a general contractor that is licensed (and paying him extra), who then subs out to unlicensed contractors.

[njtosd]

My point was simply that someone who hires an unlicensed contractor runs the risk of being held liable by employees or subs for injuries on the job. That can get incredibly expensive. But, to each his own.

[spdrun]

Then make sure they provide such documentation that you can prove that you reasonably expected them to be licensed, even if they actually aren’t. There’s no obligation to actually CHECK a license in the state database… 😉

[UCGal]

Depending on the scope of work – the unlicensed status could be an issue with permits.

I’ve had issues with contractors. If I had to do it again I would go owner-builder… and hire licensed subcontractors.

One advantage to licensed contractors is they have bonds… it’s a point of recourse if they try to screw you.

They also can’t ask for more than $1k up front – and you pay for work completed…unlicensed folks don’t have to play by the rules.

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