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February 13, 2009 at 10:10 PM #346758February 13, 2009 at 10:22 PM #346200
paramount
ParticipantIf you go to Las Vegas, walk up to a table and place a bet – don’t you assume that the other players/and or dealer are playing by the same rules you are?
Maybe you will make money, maybe you won’t – but you assume it’s at least a level playing field going in, right?
If you loose money, then 5 minutes later you learn the game was rigged and fraudulent, would you want your money back? I suspect so…
There’s really no difference when it comes to Real Estate IMO. Many laws were broken by many scum bags. I assumed laws were being enforced for example: lying on a mortgage application is fraud, appraisers committed fraud along with their accomplice dirtball realtors. Mortgage brokers committed fraud on a wide scale basis. Wall Street brokers committed fraud as did the rating agencies.
The list goes on and on – I probably don’t know the half of what lies were told.
Now I’m supposed to pay the price for THEIR lies?
February 13, 2009 at 10:22 PM #346521ParticipantIf you go to Las Vegas, walk up to a table and place a bet – don’t you assume that the other players/and or dealer are playing by the same rules you are?
Maybe you will make money, maybe you won’t – but you assume it’s at least a level playing field going in, right?
If you loose money, then 5 minutes later you learn the game was rigged and fraudulent, would you want your money back? I suspect so…
There’s really no difference when it comes to Real Estate IMO. Many laws were broken by many scum bags. I assumed laws were being enforced for example: lying on a mortgage application is fraud, appraisers committed fraud along with their accomplice dirtball realtors. Mortgage brokers committed fraud on a wide scale basis. Wall Street brokers committed fraud as did the rating agencies.
The list goes on and on – I probably don’t know the half of what lies were told.
Now I’m supposed to pay the price for THEIR lies?
February 13, 2009 at 10:22 PM #346630ParticipantIf you go to Las Vegas, walk up to a table and place a bet – don’t you assume that the other players/and or dealer are playing by the same rules you are?
Maybe you will make money, maybe you won’t – but you assume it’s at least a level playing field going in, right?
If you loose money, then 5 minutes later you learn the game was rigged and fraudulent, would you want your money back? I suspect so…
There’s really no difference when it comes to Real Estate IMO. Many laws were broken by many scum bags. I assumed laws were being enforced for example: lying on a mortgage application is fraud, appraisers committed fraud along with their accomplice dirtball realtors. Mortgage brokers committed fraud on a wide scale basis. Wall Street brokers committed fraud as did the rating agencies.
The list goes on and on – I probably don’t know the half of what lies were told.
Now I’m supposed to pay the price for THEIR lies?
February 13, 2009 at 10:22 PM #346664ParticipantIf you go to Las Vegas, walk up to a table and place a bet – don’t you assume that the other players/and or dealer are playing by the same rules you are?
Maybe you will make money, maybe you won’t – but you assume it’s at least a level playing field going in, right?
If you loose money, then 5 minutes later you learn the game was rigged and fraudulent, would you want your money back? I suspect so…
There’s really no difference when it comes to Real Estate IMO. Many laws were broken by many scum bags. I assumed laws were being enforced for example: lying on a mortgage application is fraud, appraisers committed fraud along with their accomplice dirtball realtors. Mortgage brokers committed fraud on a wide scale basis. Wall Street brokers committed fraud as did the rating agencies.
The list goes on and on – I probably don’t know the half of what lies were told.
Now I’m supposed to pay the price for THEIR lies?
February 13, 2009 at 10:22 PM #346763ParticipantIf you go to Las Vegas, walk up to a table and place a bet – don’t you assume that the other players/and or dealer are playing by the same rules you are?
Maybe you will make money, maybe you won’t – but you assume it’s at least a level playing field going in, right?
If you loose money, then 5 minutes later you learn the game was rigged and fraudulent, would you want your money back? I suspect so…
There’s really no difference when it comes to Real Estate IMO. Many laws were broken by many scum bags. I assumed laws were being enforced for example: lying on a mortgage application is fraud, appraisers committed fraud along with their accomplice dirtball realtors. Mortgage brokers committed fraud on a wide scale basis. Wall Street brokers committed fraud as did the rating agencies.
The list goes on and on – I probably don’t know the half of what lies were told.
Now I’m supposed to pay the price for THEIR lies?
February 13, 2009 at 10:53 PM #346210SD Realtor
ParticipantWell paramount lets see… I have been renting since 2004… My wife wanted to buy a home but everything we saw was in my opinion overpriced. Many of my friends wanted homes and they did not buy either.
So let me ask you this, did someone force you to sign the loan docs?
Also do you pay federal income tax? Do you pay social security? If the answer is yes than you are already paying for the lies.
I am not advocating you walk or don’t walk. I am advocating that you should not blame others for your decision. However slimy your realtor was, your mortgage broker was, they did not hold a gun to your head. However slimy all the bond rating agencies were to give AAA ratings to the securities that were created out of these mortgages, that to had nothing to do with you signing those loan docs.
To go back to your analogy. Many of us did not choose to go gamble at the table you gambled at. The best way not go get ripped off by card sharks is to not play the game. You played and I am sorry about that.
You said you purchased your home a year ago? So 1 year ago you had no idea about the market decline? You had no inkling that we could be in serious trouble? Again I am sorry to hear about that. Yes there is plenty to blame but the fact is that you purchased your home when we were well into the depreciation phase. True that there are unsavory characters everywhere in this profession and you can choose to blame them but the bottom line is that you signed the papers.
February 13, 2009 at 10:53 PM #346530ParticipantWell paramount lets see… I have been renting since 2004… My wife wanted to buy a home but everything we saw was in my opinion overpriced. Many of my friends wanted homes and they did not buy either.
So let me ask you this, did someone force you to sign the loan docs?
Also do you pay federal income tax? Do you pay social security? If the answer is yes than you are already paying for the lies.
I am not advocating you walk or don’t walk. I am advocating that you should not blame others for your decision. However slimy your realtor was, your mortgage broker was, they did not hold a gun to your head. However slimy all the bond rating agencies were to give AAA ratings to the securities that were created out of these mortgages, that to had nothing to do with you signing those loan docs.
To go back to your analogy. Many of us did not choose to go gamble at the table you gambled at. The best way not go get ripped off by card sharks is to not play the game. You played and I am sorry about that.
You said you purchased your home a year ago? So 1 year ago you had no idea about the market decline? You had no inkling that we could be in serious trouble? Again I am sorry to hear about that. Yes there is plenty to blame but the fact is that you purchased your home when we were well into the depreciation phase. True that there are unsavory characters everywhere in this profession and you can choose to blame them but the bottom line is that you signed the papers.
February 13, 2009 at 10:53 PM #346640ParticipantWell paramount lets see… I have been renting since 2004… My wife wanted to buy a home but everything we saw was in my opinion overpriced. Many of my friends wanted homes and they did not buy either.
So let me ask you this, did someone force you to sign the loan docs?
Also do you pay federal income tax? Do you pay social security? If the answer is yes than you are already paying for the lies.
I am not advocating you walk or don’t walk. I am advocating that you should not blame others for your decision. However slimy your realtor was, your mortgage broker was, they did not hold a gun to your head. However slimy all the bond rating agencies were to give AAA ratings to the securities that were created out of these mortgages, that to had nothing to do with you signing those loan docs.
To go back to your analogy. Many of us did not choose to go gamble at the table you gambled at. The best way not go get ripped off by card sharks is to not play the game. You played and I am sorry about that.
You said you purchased your home a year ago? So 1 year ago you had no idea about the market decline? You had no inkling that we could be in serious trouble? Again I am sorry to hear about that. Yes there is plenty to blame but the fact is that you purchased your home when we were well into the depreciation phase. True that there are unsavory characters everywhere in this profession and you can choose to blame them but the bottom line is that you signed the papers.
February 13, 2009 at 10:53 PM #346674ParticipantWell paramount lets see… I have been renting since 2004… My wife wanted to buy a home but everything we saw was in my opinion overpriced. Many of my friends wanted homes and they did not buy either.
So let me ask you this, did someone force you to sign the loan docs?
Also do you pay federal income tax? Do you pay social security? If the answer is yes than you are already paying for the lies.
I am not advocating you walk or don’t walk. I am advocating that you should not blame others for your decision. However slimy your realtor was, your mortgage broker was, they did not hold a gun to your head. However slimy all the bond rating agencies were to give AAA ratings to the securities that were created out of these mortgages, that to had nothing to do with you signing those loan docs.
To go back to your analogy. Many of us did not choose to go gamble at the table you gambled at. The best way not go get ripped off by card sharks is to not play the game. You played and I am sorry about that.
You said you purchased your home a year ago? So 1 year ago you had no idea about the market decline? You had no inkling that we could be in serious trouble? Again I am sorry to hear about that. Yes there is plenty to blame but the fact is that you purchased your home when we were well into the depreciation phase. True that there are unsavory characters everywhere in this profession and you can choose to blame them but the bottom line is that you signed the papers.
February 13, 2009 at 10:53 PM #346773ParticipantWell paramount lets see… I have been renting since 2004… My wife wanted to buy a home but everything we saw was in my opinion overpriced. Many of my friends wanted homes and they did not buy either.
So let me ask you this, did someone force you to sign the loan docs?
Also do you pay federal income tax? Do you pay social security? If the answer is yes than you are already paying for the lies.
I am not advocating you walk or don’t walk. I am advocating that you should not blame others for your decision. However slimy your realtor was, your mortgage broker was, they did not hold a gun to your head. However slimy all the bond rating agencies were to give AAA ratings to the securities that were created out of these mortgages, that to had nothing to do with you signing those loan docs.
To go back to your analogy. Many of us did not choose to go gamble at the table you gambled at. The best way not go get ripped off by card sharks is to not play the game. You played and I am sorry about that.
You said you purchased your home a year ago? So 1 year ago you had no idea about the market decline? You had no inkling that we could be in serious trouble? Again I am sorry to hear about that. Yes there is plenty to blame but the fact is that you purchased your home when we were well into the depreciation phase. True that there are unsavory characters everywhere in this profession and you can choose to blame them but the bottom line is that you signed the papers.
February 13, 2009 at 11:38 PM #346214waiting hawk
Participantlol@ this thread haha.
Reminds me of this guy:
DONT TAZE ME BRO!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8XWijwmvGU4February 13, 2009 at 11:38 PM #346535Participantlol@ this thread haha.
Reminds me of this guy:
DONT TAZE ME BRO!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8XWijwmvGU4February 13, 2009 at 11:38 PM #346645Participantlol@ this thread haha.
Reminds me of this guy:
DONT TAZE ME BRO!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8XWijwmvGU4February 13, 2009 at 11:38 PM #346679Participantlol@ this thread haha.
Reminds me of this guy:
DONT TAZE ME BRO!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8XWijwmvGU4 -
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