Trapping rats.

[Anonymous]

[quote=faterikcartman]I can’t believe I’m going to say this because I’m usually anti-hippie to the core. However, I think glue traps are cruel and inhumane. Torturing animals — even rats — is like training wheels for a serial killer.

That said, I am totally down with dispatching rats with extreme prejudice.[/quote]

You are spot on.

I do not see the purpose of torturing any animal you trap. If an animal has to be killed, it should be done humanely and painlessly as possible. This torture talk really is going outside the realm of pest control here – in fact it has nothing to do with pest control at all. Yet this is the excuse people will use, apparently – no, that is not really a reason to torture animals to death because the actual intention to torture something comes from a sick, troubled mind… not because of the practicality of removing pest animals.

I am sure most pest control operators or people dealing with pest animals don’t go with the intention to torture something, they just want the problem gone. But to wilfully cause gratuitous cruelty because someone wants to torture something… well… that’s a different ball-park altogether. Let me tell you, if I caught someone torturing a rat to death in front of me, I would probably need to be physically restrained to avoid beating them up.

There is something *very* intrinsically wrong about causing something helpless to suffer just because someone *wants* to inflict more pain. It’s unnecessary, wrong, and probably even criminal. Glue traps are a good example – what do people do often? Throw them away into the bin so they further mutilate themselves/stave to death. What great human beings those type are. Yes, I’m going to go all hippy here – no animals deserves to be slowly tortured to death simply for being what it is. Perhaps the guy who said he was “anti cruelty yet makes an exception to rats” should take heed in this and grow the f up.

[faterikcartman]

[quote=walterwhite]Would you be willing to be my fellow soldier at arms? Guerrila revolutinary?[/quote]

LOL — just don’t turn out like Maggot in “The Dirty Dozen”!

[faterikcartman]

[quote=walterwhite]Would you be willing to be my fellow soldier at arms? Guerrila revolutinary?[/quote]

LOL — just don’t turn out like Maggot in “The Dirty Dozen”!

[faterikcartman]

[quote=walterwhite]Would you be willing to be my fellow soldier at arms? Guerrila revolutinary?[/quote]

LOL — just don’t turn out like Maggot in “The Dirty Dozen”!

[faterikcartman]

[quote=walterwhite]Would you be willing to be my fellow soldier at arms? Guerrila revolutinary?[/quote]

LOL — just don’t turn out like Maggot in “The Dirty Dozen”!

[faterikcartman]

[quote=walterwhite]Would you be willing to be my fellow soldier at arms? Guerrila revolutinary?[/quote]

LOL — just don’t turn out like Maggot in “The Dirty Dozen”!

[faterikcartman]

[quote=BarryL][quote=faterikcartman]
If you think humans should not be held to a higher standard I wouldn’t want to be your neighbour.[/quote]

I hold my dog to a higher standard than a serial killer or pedophile. Guess we cannot be neighbours then?[/quote]

Barry, my statement reflected my belief that a rat behaves without guilt. I do not believe humans do, or should, live this way.

In response to WW’s befuddlement at some of the responses here, I have more sympathy for the innocent being punished than the guilty. I doubt I’m alone, though I’m not sure most people would take the time in their busy lives to break it down like that, however. Then again, Kant fans might…

[faterikcartman]

[quote=BarryL][quote=faterikcartman]
If you think humans should not be held to a higher standard I wouldn’t want to be your neighbour.[/quote]

I hold my dog to a higher standard than a serial killer or pedophile. Guess we cannot be neighbours then?[/quote]

Barry, my statement reflected my belief that a rat behaves without guilt. I do not believe humans do, or should, live this way.

In response to WW’s befuddlement at some of the responses here, I have more sympathy for the innocent being punished than the guilty. I doubt I’m alone, though I’m not sure most people would take the time in their busy lives to break it down like that, however. Then again, Kant fans might…

[faterikcartman]

[quote=BarryL][quote=faterikcartman]
If you think humans should not be held to a higher standard I wouldn’t want to be your neighbour.[/quote]

I hold my dog to a higher standard than a serial killer or pedophile. Guess we cannot be neighbours then?[/quote]

Barry, my statement reflected my belief that a rat behaves without guilt. I do not believe humans do, or should, live this way.

In response to WW’s befuddlement at some of the responses here, I have more sympathy for the innocent being punished than the guilty. I doubt I’m alone, though I’m not sure most people would take the time in their busy lives to break it down like that, however. Then again, Kant fans might…

[faterikcartman]

[quote=BarryL][quote=faterikcartman]
If you think humans should not be held to a higher standard I wouldn’t want to be your neighbour.[/quote]

I hold my dog to a higher standard than a serial killer or pedophile. Guess we cannot be neighbours then?[/quote]

Barry, my statement reflected my belief that a rat behaves without guilt. I do not believe humans do, or should, live this way.

In response to WW’s befuddlement at some of the responses here, I have more sympathy for the innocent being punished than the guilty. I doubt I’m alone, though I’m not sure most people would take the time in their busy lives to break it down like that, however. Then again, Kant fans might…

[faterikcartman]

[quote=BarryL][quote=faterikcartman]
If you think humans should not be held to a higher standard I wouldn’t want to be your neighbour.[/quote]

I hold my dog to a higher standard than a serial killer or pedophile. Guess we cannot be neighbours then?[/quote]

Barry, my statement reflected my belief that a rat behaves without guilt. I do not believe humans do, or should, live this way.

In response to WW’s befuddlement at some of the responses here, I have more sympathy for the innocent being punished than the guilty. I doubt I’m alone, though I’m not sure most people would take the time in their busy lives to break it down like that, however. Then again, Kant fans might…

[Anonymous]

[quote=faterikcartman]
Barry, my statement reflected my belief that a rat behaves without guilt. I do not believe humans do, or should, live this way.

In response to WW’s befuddlement at some of the responses here, I have more sympathy for the innocent being punished than the guilty. I doubt I’m alone, though I’m not sure most people would take the time in their busy lives to break it down like that, however. Then again, Kant fans might…[/quote]

Ah, I see. Must have misunderstood it then.

WW’s confusion seems to stem from that fact that he doesn’t care that the animals he traps suffers… or worse, wants to. I don’t really see the point of making a rat suffer as much as possible when death can be more swifter/humane. It’d be like a hunter missing his shot, hitting the animal’s leg and not being decent enough to put it out of its misery, just intentionally leaving it there to expire.

Were it up to me, I’d ban glue traps outright. The entire concept of them is quite sickening to me… I mean, gluing a small mammal on plastic for it to panic and rip itself apart/starve/etc. Ugh.

[Anonymous]

[quote=faterikcartman]
Barry, my statement reflected my belief that a rat behaves without guilt. I do not believe humans do, or should, live this way.

In response to WW’s befuddlement at some of the responses here, I have more sympathy for the innocent being punished than the guilty. I doubt I’m alone, though I’m not sure most people would take the time in their busy lives to break it down like that, however. Then again, Kant fans might…[/quote]

Ah, I see. Must have misunderstood it then.

WW’s confusion seems to stem from that fact that he doesn’t care that the animals he traps suffers… or worse, wants to. I don’t really see the point of making a rat suffer as much as possible when death can be more swifter/humane. It’d be like a hunter missing his shot, hitting the animal’s leg and not being decent enough to put it out of its misery, just intentionally leaving it there to expire.

Were it up to me, I’d ban glue traps outright. The entire concept of them is quite sickening to me… I mean, gluing a small mammal on plastic for it to panic and rip itself apart/starve/etc. Ugh.

[Anonymous]

[quote=faterikcartman]
Barry, my statement reflected my belief that a rat behaves without guilt. I do not believe humans do, or should, live this way.

In response to WW’s befuddlement at some of the responses here, I have more sympathy for the innocent being punished than the guilty. I doubt I’m alone, though I’m not sure most people would take the time in their busy lives to break it down like that, however. Then again, Kant fans might…[/quote]

Ah, I see. Must have misunderstood it then.

WW’s confusion seems to stem from that fact that he doesn’t care that the animals he traps suffers… or worse, wants to. I don’t really see the point of making a rat suffer as much as possible when death can be more swifter/humane. It’d be like a hunter missing his shot, hitting the animal’s leg and not being decent enough to put it out of its misery, just intentionally leaving it there to expire.

Were it up to me, I’d ban glue traps outright. The entire concept of them is quite sickening to me… I mean, gluing a small mammal on plastic for it to panic and rip itself apart/starve/etc. Ugh.

[Anonymous]

[quote=faterikcartman]
Barry, my statement reflected my belief that a rat behaves without guilt. I do not believe humans do, or should, live this way.

In response to WW’s befuddlement at some of the responses here, I have more sympathy for the innocent being punished than the guilty. I doubt I’m alone, though I’m not sure most people would take the time in their busy lives to break it down like that, however. Then again, Kant fans might…[/quote]

Ah, I see. Must have misunderstood it then.

WW’s confusion seems to stem from that fact that he doesn’t care that the animals he traps suffers… or worse, wants to. I don’t really see the point of making a rat suffer as much as possible when death can be more swifter/humane. It’d be like a hunter missing his shot, hitting the animal’s leg and not being decent enough to put it out of its misery, just intentionally leaving it there to expire.

Were it up to me, I’d ban glue traps outright. The entire concept of them is quite sickening to me… I mean, gluing a small mammal on plastic for it to panic and rip itself apart/starve/etc. Ugh.

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