Target coming to Del Sur?

[DelSurBird]

Just heard from a real estate newsletter that there are plans in the works to build a Target store in the Del Sur area – I believe at the new shopping center under construction. This sounds very concerning to me what this means for the community traffic in that area. Does anyone know when/where the next community planning meeting will be I would like to get info so I can attend to hear what is being planned for this shopping center. Thank you!

[Essbee]

I heard that rumor back in 2011, when I was looking in Del Sur. This year, I heard it again from a friend who lives there. My friend also said that In-N-Out will be in there somewhere.

I’m not thrilled about the traffic either (I live in 4S sort of near Del Norte HS), but I do love Target… 🙂

[Coronita]

Look on the bright side.. It’s a Target. It could have been worse. It could have been a Walmart 🙂

[EconProf]

I live nearby and don’t see a problem. With all the new housing, families, and upper end suburban demographics here, a Target store is logical and will do well.
What I want is a Trader Joe’s!

[Essbee]

Well, the closest Trader Joe’s (Carmel Mtn) is pretty close already…but yes, that would be convenient.

Of course, the closest Target (Poway) is also relatively close already… I went there this morning. 🙂

[flyer]

We live in RSF, and are looking forward to the new retail/restaurants, etc. in the Del Sur development. We’ve enjoyed the same in DM, CV and 4S over the years, and it’s always nice to have more options nearby.

What will be really interesting, will be to see how the relatively new communities “age,” since, when we lived in CV, it appeared that no one ever seemed be over 40 at any given time.

We’ve always wondered if the majority of the older residents couldn’t afford to retire in place, or if they simply chose to move elsewhere. San Diego is a city that can destroy people in retirement if they don’t plan well.

[spdrun]

why?

if you have a paid off house or condo that you bought 30+ years ago, your carrying expenses should be well under a grand a month, maybe under $500.

other costs of living in San Diego are only marginally higher than in other parts of the country. (and in some cases lower, since HVAC is less of an issue)

plenty of both older and younger people in the area where i bought in mission valley, seems like a pretty normal mixture.

[flyer]

Agree sp, in certain areas carrying expenses are next to nothing. Many in our family (including myself) are good examples of people who bought here years ago, and have relatively low housing expenses–but that is not always the case in many areas of San Diego–especially in the newer North County developments.

We have personally known people who could not afford to retire here in recent years for many reasons–job loss around 50, with no alternative income to rely on–college expenses for their kids–lack of jobs and housing opportunities for their kids–and the list goes on.

As you mentioned, it’s not everyone, but there seems to be a fairly large percentage in the areas I mentioned.

[all]

Black Mountain Ranch had major retailer planned since the plan was made public and voted on 15-20 years ago.
I don’t think there is much you can do about it now.

EDIT:
This is what the new shopping center is supposed to look like. Traditional big-box setup – large store surrounded by big parking lot and few shops on the perimeter.

[EconProf]

I wish the big box were going to be a Lowe’s or Home Depot. Neither are within a 10 mile radius of me ( which is 2 miles south). A Lowe’s or Home Depot would have somewhat of a geographic monopoly and would do well except they like to be in huge shopping districts near major highways.

[all]

There is Home Depot in Carmel Mountain Ranch and there is another one in Mira Mesa. Both should be less than 10 miles driving distance from you.

[dumbrenter]

[quote=flu]Look on the bright side.. It’s a Target. It could have been worse. It could have been a Walmart :)[/quote]

When are they going to open that 99 cent store there?

[Coronita]

[quote=dumbrenter][quote=flu]Look on the bright side.. It’s a Target. It could have been worse. It could have been a Walmart :)[/quote]

When are they going to open that 99 cent store there?[/quote]

I think they should go for a trifecta and add, for wings and beer, a Hooters just for completion. They do need more places to eat that are more family oriented….

[an]

[quote=flu][quote=dumbrenter][quote=flu]Look on the bright side.. It’s a Target. It could have been worse. It could have been a Walmart :)[/quote]

When are they going to open that 99 cent store there?[/quote]

I think they should go for a trifecta and add, for wings and beer, a Hooters just for completion. They do need more places to eat that are more family oriented….[/quote]There’s already a Hooters in West RB, next to the 15 🙂

[DelSurBird]

I checked the latest revised Black Mountain Ranch Subarea Plan and didn’t find this information. I am really curious if a traffic study has been completed for this plan? With the new school, apartments, townhouses and a transit center under construction or planned for this area, in addition to the other schools already nearby, this is a highly congested traffic disaster area in the making. Not to mention the build outs planned for Del Sur and surrounding neighborhoods along with the other schools and community centers we already have in this area. We already have too many traffic stoplights on Camino Del Norte. I would like to see a traffic study/plan to show how the streets, stoplights and traffic flow will handle all of this traffic to minimize the impacts to the community and Camino Del Norte.

Not only that, the intent and spirit of the Black Mountain Ranch Subarea Plan is to be a “green” environmental friendly neighborhood that sold me to be a part of this Del Sur community. It seems that a Target store is a total departure from this vision… I think the community needs to re-evaluate what a big retailer or big box store like Target means for the traffic in this area. When I signed on to purchase a home in Del Sur, I envisioned an extension of the Flower Hill/Del Mar Highlands shopping centers over to this area – cute/little boutique stores, restaurants/bars, outdoor fireplaces and nice walking grounds within a walking distance for date night/family quality time for the Del Sur , 4S Ranch and Santaluz neighborhoods. We have a beautiful open night sky out here, a big box store will just add more unwanted light pollution. I hope there is still an opportunity for our community to voice our concerns for this plan in the works. With two large Target stores already within a short driving distance from 4S Ranch/Del Sur, don’t you think another Target will be one more too many for our area anyway?

I just learned that the Black Mountain Ranch community does not have their own Community Planning Team – we are represented by the RP Community Planning Team for San Diego County….???

EDIT: I meant this message to be in response to the following message:

“Black Mountain Ranch had major retailer planned since the plan was made public and voted on 15-20 years ago.
I don’t think there is much you can do about it now.

EDIT:
This is what the new shopping center is supposed to look like. Traditional big-box setup – large store surrounded by big parking lot and few shops on the perimeter.”

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