January 23, 2007 at 9:42 PM #8262masayakoParticipant
Why were the democrats standing and cheering for Bush’s prep talk when they don’t even support the Bush’s Iraq plan?
This is amazingly crazy and stupid.
masayakoJanuary 23, 2007 at 9:59 PM #44040BuyerWillEPBParticipant
It seems the housing crash and mortgage fraud will be mentioned in NEXT years’ State of the Union speech.January 23, 2007 at 10:25 PM #44044masayakoParticipant
In my humble opinion:
I will vote for Al Gore as the president. Global warming is the most important subject concerning THE EARTH we (and our children) live in.
So, “Mr. future president”, here is the plan you should be working on:
1. Fix global warming and cut green house gases
2. Regulate and lower healthcare/insurance cost; reform social security
3. Get the heck out of Iraq right the way
4. Rapidly support alternative energy and regulate oil consumption
5. Cut military spending; we don’t need more army/weapons than what we already have
masayakoJanuary 24, 2007 at 7:44 AM #44056
Masayako, I have no children but I agree with you priorities.
The bushies will tell you that there’s nothing that America can do about global warming because whatever emmission reduction we achieve, China and India will undo with their development.
There are enormous business opportunities with going green. I agree with the US Climate Action Parnership (the 10 corporate CEOs). America has a chance to dominate green technologies. But we run a risk of handing that leadership to foreign companies if we don’t take action today.
About the speech, Bush looked like a lame duck to me.January 24, 2007 at 8:38 AM #44059sdnativesonParticipant
If you mean stopping environmental pollution then you have a point. As far as global warming goes…. well you’ve bought into another trend. But it’s a trend that is popular with left leaning individuals and they are the best at stifling their critics.
The are just as many articles debunking the “inconvient truth” mentality as those that propagate it. What is “convenient” is how the data was cherry-picked. If you can’t/won’t both investigate and question the information that you are being fed by the Global Warming crowd, then you are entitled to your opinion, just qualify it with ” in my uneducated” opinion.
You want lower health care? Reign in the Trial Lawyers lobby first. Then move onto other “reforms”
Get out of Iraq right away? lol, I won’t revisit that at this time.
Support and encourage alternative energy? Yes, we should, however, as far as alternatives that can be implemented relatively quickly, some of the main obstructionists are the environmentalists.
Cut military spending? Very short-sighted opinion, in brief it will certainly not improve the quality of life for those in our country, certainly not when there are so many willing to use force in the world. Maybe you think that if
“we” go away there will be peace throughout the world….LOL
back to work now.January 24, 2007 at 8:52 AM #44064
The are just as many articles debunking the “inconvient truth” mentality as those that propagate it.
Actually, there aren’t. Please show us your source.
The fact is, denialists of climate change are in the minority.
Denialists are found in almost every field of science. You can google Duesberg who holds uncommon views on AIDS for one.
Support and encourage alternative energy? Yes, we should
Thanks!January 24, 2007 at 9:09 AM #44067AnonymousGuest
Really it is only the religious and other right wing fanatics that deny global warming. There is concensus among the world’s scientific community. It has nothing to do with some sort of liberal agenda wanting to “ruin” profits of oil companies. That is only what college dropouts like Rush Limbaugh and his other uneducated chronies want you to think.January 24, 2007 at 9:18 AM #44068
Yeah, in fact just last week, Exxon said they would no longer be funding their ‘anti-global warming think-tank.’
If Exxon’s not going to even fund it, you know the arguement’s dead in the water. Geez, even our Pres said last night it’s a problem we’ve got to solve.January 24, 2007 at 9:31 AM #44070
It’s not just about preserving the Earth. It’s about money making business opportunities.
The thing about global warming is that we’ve got the lead in green technologies right now but we’re not taking advantage of it because we are complacent.
The Chinese have a horrible pollution problem but they are coming to grips with that. Do we allow them to leapfrog us in green tech? Green technologies are the growth businesses of the future. Do we want the foreign companies to develop and own all the green patents?January 24, 2007 at 9:36 AM #44071
I liked Jim Webb’s response the W last night. His speech was well delivered, concise and forceful.January 24, 2007 at 9:39 AM #44073
I have a friend who produces organic pesticide from orange oil. They are a local firm. Business is booming!January 24, 2007 at 9:50 AM #44072sdnativesonParticipant
Actually yes, there are. Go and google away on it. I would recommend that you use a least three other search engines.
As with everyone, google has it’s own agendas and often the results are skewed. By the way, dissenting opinion isn’t necessarily denialist.
this is a good introduction;
In the mid 70’s it was another ice age… now it’s global warming.
dz, lol.January 24, 2007 at 9:51 AM #44076greekfireParticipant
Our mark as a civilization (and species) will not be how much we develop the earth or how rapidly we do it…it will be how well we develop it and coexist in harmony with our environment. With that said, I think it is premature to blame America for something like global warming. Yes, we do consume and waste a lot. But we are pretty good about trying to do it in a more environmentally friendly way when compared to many other nations. We certainly can do better, but to constantly blame America (particularly Republicans) for global warming is just misguided and tired.January 24, 2007 at 10:16 AM #44078PDParticipant
Global warming does seem to be happening. However, blaming humans exclusively ignores the fact that world’s climate is constantly undergoing change as a natural process. Did humans cause previous warming? No. Did they cause previous cooling? No. We MAY be affecting the climate at this time but it has not been proven that the current warming is not natural (if warming is not natural, the earth would still be covered in ice). Further, if it is natural, there probably is very little that we can do to stop it.
Having said all that, I do think we need to do everything possible to explore energy that does not pollute the earth. We also need to get rid of our dependence on oil because of political reasons.
As for the rest of it, I second sdnativeson.January 24, 2007 at 10:51 AM #44081
Republicans would say that we should pray to Almighty God. Global warming or not, as long as we pray real hard, God will be come to help us.
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