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July 20, 2014 at 10:08 PM #776939July 20, 2014 at 10:28 PM #776940NotCrankyParticipant
[quote=krowe]We have offered to plead guilty to the ID theft and harassment charges since the beginning, 2 years ago, and it is the DA that has insisted on dragging this out.[/quote]
Not good enough. Poor you how the DA treats you badly, like people who outbid you on houses treat you badly. The court system takes a long time for everyone.I hope you can come out of jail/prison not living in some crazy alternative reality like you were when you made these hideous crimes and like you obviously still do. Sorry for how you got to this point but letting you go won’t fix it. You have made that very clear.
Please plead guilty to all charges and go to work on it.
July 20, 2014 at 10:35 PM #776942La Jolla RenterParticipant[quote=krowe]We have offered to plead guilty to the ID theft and harassment charges since the beginning, 2 years ago, and it is the DA that has insisted on dragging this out.[/quote]
Krowe, you knew the “rapist” tried to go to the house once, and you sent him back. The benefit of the doubt your are asking for… that this was just a prank, ended there.
Guilty, guilty, guilty.
I have a hard time believing you would have been remorsefull if the rape had occurred and you never got caught.
July 20, 2014 at 10:39 PM #776943CA renterParticipant[quote=Blogstar][quote=krowe]We have offered to plead guilty to the ID theft and harassment charges since the beginning, 2 years ago, and it is the DA that has insisted on dragging this out.[/quote]
Not good enough. Poor you how the DA treats you badly, like people who outbid you on houses treat you badly. The court system takes a long time for everyone.I hope you can come out of jail/prison not living in some crazy alternative reality like you were when you made these hideous crimes and like you obviously still do. Sorry for how you got to this point but letting you go won’t fix it. You have made that very clear.
Please plead guilty to all charges and go to work on it.[/quote]
Have to agree with Blogstar’s posts. Also, identity theft and harassment are not even the worst things you’ve done. Trying to cause a person to be raped and sodomized in a brutal, horrible attack is what you are primarily guilty of, and THAT is what you need to plead guilty to.
What you did (if you are indeed Kathy Rowe) is totally inexcusable. It’s not like you were stealing bread to feed your family. You committed a violent, heinous crime. Just because it didn’t pan out the way you wanted it to doesn’t mean you’re not guilty. Thank goodness those men you solicited had a conscience and a grasp of right and wrong, unlike you.
I feel a lot of sympathy for your husband and daughter, but as Blogstar said, every criminal has a sob story. I hope your family is taken care of; you should have thought about their well-being before you committed those crimes.
July 20, 2014 at 11:41 PM #776944CDMA ENGParticipant[quote=krowe]I agree with you that my actions were offensive, selfish, malicious, intrusive, and very immature. They could have created a dangerous situation for this innocent family.
This behavior is completely the opposite of how I normally am and was caused by some extraordinary circumstances. As soon as the circumstance ended, I was able to think clearly, realized what I was doing and how wrong it was, and immediately stopped.
I wrote the family a 3 page letter expressing how sorry I was for my behavior and the impact it had on them. I insisted on paying all of their out of pocket costs up front. I wanted to do more to make amends, but at that point it was all I could do.
I have already received very serious consequences (public humiliation, termination, astronomical attorney costs, and 2 years of absolute terror from the legal process). Please don’t interpret this as whining or complaining….I accept that my actions warranted significant consequences. I just want to point out that experiencing dismay about my behavior (to the point of being suicidal) and receiving punishment occurs long before being sentenced. I truly wish I could be whipped in the public square (like the old days) so I could have a punishment that would only affect me. The only thing prison would do is to deprive my terminally ill husband and disabled daughter from their only caretaker.
I appreciate your giving me a chance to explain. And I realize there is no explanation that would make my behavior acceptable. It’s even difficult for my behavior to be understandable unless you experienced the circumstances I did which were the underlying cause of my actions.
Thank you.
Kathy[/quote]There is no way this is KR. If it is I suggest you fire your current lawyer and STFU for your own benefit as I am sure all of this will be used against you in a court of law.
Shheees…
CE
July 21, 2014 at 9:48 AM #776948CoronitaParticipantlol. I think you folks are being trolled by someone pretending to be her….
July 21, 2014 at 1:57 PM #776954NotCrankyParticipant[quote=flu]lol. I think you folks are being trolled by someone pretending to be her….[/quote]
Probably, but how often do you get to play Judge and jury?July 21, 2014 at 2:06 PM #776957joecParticipantFunny how someone is posting back…I hope they do know that it’s very possible to track down which machine this was and if it’s a public computer, that place probably has cameras as well…
That said, I’d agree with the other posters that agreeing to some minor crimes while something like this could have ended very badly sounds like a wimpy cop out.
July 21, 2014 at 2:53 PM #776961njtosdParticipant[quote=krowe] ….. If it won’t benefit me or society, I am struggling to understand if it’s simply retribution or some other reason that you believe I deserve jail.[/quote]
Retribution is one of the legal bases for the criminal justice system. Those who harm the fabric of society should pay a price. There are probably quite a few potential home buyers out there that now have the added worry of criminal retribution from people like you. Deterrence is also important – if someone else heard of what you did (if you are indeed krowe) and found that you had been given a slap on the wrist they might be encouraged to do the same. Society does benefit – predictable consequences for actions (good or bad) reinforce civilized society. You could have chosen to address your mental instability (which doesn’t just go away) but instead allowed it to worsen and cause significant harm to others. Next time you feel your mental moorings getting stretched, your memory of time in jail will encourage you to deal with the problem before someone else gets hurt.
July 21, 2014 at 3:17 PM #776964CoronitaParticipant[quote=Blogstar][quote=flu]lol. I think you folks are being trolled by someone pretending to be her….[/quote]
Probably, but how often do you get to play Judge and jury?[/quote]I think we did during the fiscal meltdown wrto to subprime borrowers….
July 21, 2014 at 3:44 PM #776968zkParticipant[quote=njtosd][quote=krowe] ….. If it won’t benefit me or society, I am struggling to understand if it’s simply retribution or some other reason that you believe I deserve jail.[/quote]
Retribution is one of the legal bases for the criminal justice system. Those who harm the fabric of society should pay a price. There are probably quite a few potential home buyers out there that now have the added worry of criminal retribution from people like you. Deterrence is also important – if someone else heard of what you did (if you are indeed krowe) and found that you had been given a slap on the wrist they might be encouraged to do the same. Society does benefit – predictable consequences for actions (good or bad) reinforce civilized society. You could have chosen to address your mental instability (which doesn’t just go away) but instead allowed it to worsen and cause significant harm to others. Next time you feel your mental moorings getting stretched, your memory of time in jail will encourage you to deal with the problem before someone else gets hurt.[/quote]
+1
July 21, 2014 at 4:00 PM #776969zkParticipant[quote=krowe] It’s even difficult for my behavior to be understandable unless you experienced the circumstances I did which were the underlying cause of my actions.
[/quote][quote=krowe] I am struggling to understand if it’s simply retribution or some other reason that you believe I deserve jail.[/quote]
The reason you don’t understand why we think you deserve jail is that you haven’t taken responsibility for your crimes. Sure, you say you’re sorry and you apologized and you feel bad. But then you say “the circumstances…were the underlying cause of my actions.”
The underlying cause of your actions is not “the circumstances.” The underlying cause of your actions is that you are malevolent, lacking in conscience, and unable to control your impulses. Those things are evidenced by your actions (your words mean nothing), and make you a danger to society.
That’s why you belong in jail. That plus what njtosd said.
If it was up to me, you’d be there for a very long time. It’s only by luck that nothing really bad happened, and you don’t deserve credit for that luck. As I said previously, if it was my daughter and something bad happened, you’d get worse than life in prison.
July 22, 2014 at 3:02 AM #776983CA renterParticipantGreat post, zk. Nailed it.
August 14, 2014 at 8:31 PM #777363zkParticipantThis is more like it.
This woman did basically the same thing as Kathy Rowe, and was sentenced to six years in prison.
From the article: “The judge said [the defendant] was in denial throughout proceedings, and that it was only by chance that the victim had not actually been raped.”
Sounds familiar.
August 14, 2014 at 11:13 PM #777364CA renterParticipant[quote=zk]This is more like it.
This woman did basically the same thing as Kathy Rowe, and was sentenced to six years in prison.
From the article: “The judge said [the defendant] was in denial throughout proceedings, and that it was only by chance that the victim had not actually been raped.”
Sounds familiar.[/quote]
Excellent find, zk. It’s amazing how similar these stories are.
Note that it says this was the shortest sentence the judge felt he could impose.
‘By the seriousness of these offences taking account the totality of the criminality, I impose the shortest sentence I feel I possibly can. That sentence is a sentence of six years imprisonment.’
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