Right-Wing Media are Destroying Our Country

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g.k.

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all countries’ peoples are good looking and well above average

[XBoxBoy]

[quote=scaredyclassic]all countries’ peoples are good looking and well above average[/quote]

I’ve been missing this kind of comment…

[Anonymous]

[quote=zk]I disagree strongly that our culture is exceptional, but that’s another discussion.[/quote]

I hope that discussion is not as tedious as this one.

[zk]

[quote=harvey][quote=zk]I disagree strongly that our culture is exceptional, but that’s another discussion.[/quote]

I hope that discussion is not as tedious as this one.[/quote]

Ahh. Just finished 18 holes at Maderas. 10 minutes on the computer, then a workout and off to the beach.

It’s a beautiful day outside, Harvey. If this is too tedious for you, I’m sure you can find something better to do.

[FlyerInHi]

[quote=harvey][quote=zk]I disagree strongly that our culture is exceptional, but that’s another discussion.[/quote]

I hope that discussion is not as tedious as this one.[/quote]

Should be a very interesting topic.

Now, saying that our culture is not exceptional might get you a lot of haters who will blame you for not loving America enough.

[FlyerInHi]

[quote=zk]
What happens when you have a fascist president with greatly reduced checks on his power? Unfortunately, I think we’re about to find out. And we have right-wing media to thank.[/quote]

I think there’s a big percentage of the population that is retrograde. They don’t need the right wing media to manipulate them for they are already who they are. We should not absolve this group from responsibility.

Of course, there’s another percentage of the population that was “manipulated” to vote for Trump. So the 2 groups together with a third group that will vote Republican, no matter what made Trump’s rise to the presidency possible.

I like what Mike Signer said about the hateful tweets to him. He’s describing the top to bottom of the retrograde culture pretty well:
“As painful as it is for people to read these tweets, I see them as the last gasps of a failing, retrograde, toxic element in American politics that knows that it’s failing,” he said. “And that’s why they’re so angry.”

You seem nice. What's your real name? https://t.co/XDWh2u0Xow

— Mike Signer (@MikeSigner) May 15, 2017

[zk]

Here’s a study that shows that media that right-wingers rely on spread propaganda and disinformation:

https://dash.harvard.edu/bitstream/handle/1/33759251/2017-08_electionReport_0.pdf?sequence=5

Right-wingers are consistently being lied to by their media. And they’re consistently believing and spreading those lies. And they’re voting based on those lies. And they elected trump based on those lies. And trump is terrible for this country, as anybody who hasn’t been fed lies by their media can plainly see.

[FlyerInHi]

Just want to add this for some historical context.

I was talking to my dad and back “when America was great”, Time Magazine was the right wing paper. Henry Luce was a fervent anti communist and used his media empire to advance his views. That was tame compared to the right wing media today.

“When America was great”, conservatives were educated, well-spoken individuals who valued education, like Henry Cabot Lodge, Jr. Their kids were studious, well-dressed and addressed their parents “sir” and “mam’”. Now you see a bunch crude rural slobs who value the vernacular is Donald Trump.

[EconProf]

You have just destroyed the theme of this overlong, tiresome thread.
The Right-Wing media are vastly outnumbered by the Left-Wing media. There is Fox News vs. CNN, MSNBC, ABC, CBS, PBS, etc., etc.
Big city newspapers are overwhelmingly left-of-center.
You are correct that the now left-leaning Time magazine was once solidly conservative. What does that tell you?

[zk]

[quote=EconProf]You have just destroyed the theme of this overlong, tiresome thread.
The Right-Wing media are vastly outnumbered by the Left-Wing media. There is Fox News vs. CNN, MSNBC, ABC, CBS, PBS, etc., etc.
Big city newspapers are overwhelmingly left-of-center.
You are correct that the now left-leaning Time magazine was once solidly conservative. What does that tell you?[/quote]

Well, first of all, EconProf, you’ve left out Breitbart, Drudge Report, Newsmax, Washington Times, National Review, Weekly Standard, most of talk radio, etc.

Second, you seem to equate CBS, ABC, etc with Fox. Such that you can find bias on outlets such as CBS and ABC, it is dwarfed by the bias at Fox.

sdduuuude didn’t answer, and I’m really curious why so many people are unhappy with the direction the country took under Obama, so I’ll ask you. (I’m assuming that, like sdduuuude, that you are not happy with the direction that the country took under Obama. If that’s not correct, then disregard this question.) What is it that Obama did as president that you didn’t like? Many people who partake of right-wing media think that Obama hates America. Do you share that view?

[FlyerInHi]

[quote=EconProf]
Big city newspapers are overwhelmingly left-of-center.
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I think they are the intellectual establishment which is the objective center.

There is a definitely a widening urban rural gap developing — political, educational, social, economic,

I’m disappointed but not surprised that conservative voters (not elites) would forego economics for ephemeral feel good identity politics. Trump is the last stand of the failed confederate culture.

[Anonymous]

[quote=EconProf]
The Right-Wing media are vastly outnumbered by the Left-Wing media. There is Fox News vs. CNN, MSNBC, ABC, CBS, PBS, etc., etc.
[/quote]

Hey, the professor knows how to count items on his own made up list!

Quality data!

[quote]Big city newspapers are overwhelmingly left-of-center.[/quote]

Most are moderately left-of-center. And their influence is a fraction of the reach of cable television, internet, and social media.

Dude, it’s 2017. Take a stroll down a suburban street tomorrow morning. There are no more newspapers on the driveways. Look inside the homes; everybody is tapping away at their Facebook apps with Fox and Friends droning in the background about “Crooked Hillary” – nearly a year after the election.

[quote]You are correct that the now left-leaning Time magazine was once solidly conservative. What does that tell you?[/quote]

It tells me that you think you are using a riddle to make some profound point. And you failed.

We’ve already been over the ratings data in this thread: Right wing media has far more influence than the left does. Only partisans claim otherwise, and their arguments are as pathetic as a Hannity monologue.

[FlyerInHi]

[quote=EconProf]
The Right-Wing media are vastly outnumbered by the Left-Wing media. There is Fox News vs. CNN, MSNBC, ABC, CBS, PBS, etc., etc.
Big city newspapers are overwhelmingly left-of-center.
[/quote]

It’s interesting that a professor would argue that the mainstream media is left-wing. Mainstream is by definition the objective center.

This rhetorical method is to try to normalize right-wing extremist views. It’s like arguing that Trump’s crass behavior is “normal” for a person. The argument stretches further to what is acceptable in “normal” person (which clearly is not) is ok for the president.

[zk]

[quote=zk] Many people who partake of right-wing media think that Obama hates America. [/quote]

Here’s a perfect example of how an outrageously ridiculous idea can become quite widely accepted among manipulated consumers of right-wing media.

I defy anyone to tell me why they think Obama hates America (in a way that I can’t easily rip to shreds).

Or, EconProf or sdduuuude, tell me how such an idea can become so widespread without any supporting evidence unless people have been manipulated.

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