Renter discrimination??

[cabal]

The perception of discrimination or lack of friendlness is not limit to renters. We live in a gated community with no renters where average home values hover well over 1M even today. I submit the following alternative possibilities.

(1) They are very busy people. A large number of my neighbors own their business or hold upper management positions. This typically requires 60+ hours workweek that sometimes include weekends. They are tired and simply lack the energy to cultivate new friends. Any downtime is usually spent with existing friends or family. We feel this way sometimes.

(2) Some are networkers always looking to build their up social capital and invest with any friends (or neighbors) whom they perceive to have liquidity. We’ve been approached at least 4 times in the 1st year of living here to participate in some type of (business or real estate) investment. Based on previous experiences, our rule is to never never invest with friends or family because if it fails, bad feelings develop and family relationships and friendships are ruined forever. We just tell everyone we have no money to invest and they have all slowly gone away. They are still cordial, but nowhere near as friendly as they use to be. As a renter, you are no doubt perceived to be unable to help them build their empire.

(3) The gossip mill runeth over spewing venom. Send your wife to the neighborhood Bunco meeting and have her recon the topics of discussion. She will probably report back that the alpha hens cackle endlessly about every other neighbor with topics ranging from boob jobs to your unsightly landscape design. My wife stopped attending after a few of these events, and now she is perceived as unsocial. The same applies to meeting new neighbors in that she is guarded until she has a sense of your discretion or ability to control gossip.

[Kilohana]

Of the 3 locations we have rented, I can say without doubt that the yuppie McMansion set has been the absolute worst.

For one entire year, the only neighbor who spoke to us was another renter. (And fellow bubble sitter!)

I didn’t get too broken up about it because it helped me fine tune my shopping list when we eventually buy again. No McMansions. Not even in “upscale” areas. My perception is that it was more about appearances there… and the only way to gain approval was the prove you could afford to live there by buying. No thanks.

I could be wrong – or maybe I’m just a bit sensitive, but that’s how it felt.

So yeah, I have experienced what you are describing. The good news is that you are not stuck with these people forever — you get to move whenever you want. And to be honest, I think that’s enviable. 🙂

[Kilohana]

Of the 3 locations we have rented, I can say without doubt that the yuppie McMansion set has been the absolute worst.

For one entire year, the only neighbor who spoke to us was another renter. (And fellow bubble sitter!)

I didn’t get too broken up about it because it helped me fine tune my shopping list when we eventually buy again. No McMansions. Not even in “upscale” areas. My perception is that it was more about appearances there… and the only way to gain approval was the prove you could afford to live there by buying. No thanks.

I could be wrong – or maybe I’m just a bit sensitive, but that’s how it felt.

So yeah, I have experienced what you are describing. The good news is that you are not stuck with these people forever — you get to move whenever you want. And to be honest, I think that’s enviable. 🙂

[Kilohana]

Of the 3 locations we have rented, I can say without doubt that the yuppie McMansion set has been the absolute worst.

For one entire year, the only neighbor who spoke to us was another renter. (And fellow bubble sitter!)

I didn’t get too broken up about it because it helped me fine tune my shopping list when we eventually buy again. No McMansions. Not even in “upscale” areas. My perception is that it was more about appearances there… and the only way to gain approval was the prove you could afford to live there by buying. No thanks.

I could be wrong – or maybe I’m just a bit sensitive, but that’s how it felt.

So yeah, I have experienced what you are describing. The good news is that you are not stuck with these people forever — you get to move whenever you want. And to be honest, I think that’s enviable. 🙂

[Kilohana]

Of the 3 locations we have rented, I can say without doubt that the yuppie McMansion set has been the absolute worst.

For one entire year, the only neighbor who spoke to us was another renter. (And fellow bubble sitter!)

I didn’t get too broken up about it because it helped me fine tune my shopping list when we eventually buy again. No McMansions. Not even in “upscale” areas. My perception is that it was more about appearances there… and the only way to gain approval was the prove you could afford to live there by buying. No thanks.

I could be wrong – or maybe I’m just a bit sensitive, but that’s how it felt.

So yeah, I have experienced what you are describing. The good news is that you are not stuck with these people forever — you get to move whenever you want. And to be honest, I think that’s enviable. 🙂

[Kilohana]

Of the 3 locations we have rented, I can say without doubt that the yuppie McMansion set has been the absolute worst.

For one entire year, the only neighbor who spoke to us was another renter. (And fellow bubble sitter!)

I didn’t get too broken up about it because it helped me fine tune my shopping list when we eventually buy again. No McMansions. Not even in “upscale” areas. My perception is that it was more about appearances there… and the only way to gain approval was the prove you could afford to live there by buying. No thanks.

I could be wrong – or maybe I’m just a bit sensitive, but that’s how it felt.

So yeah, I have experienced what you are describing. The good news is that you are not stuck with these people forever — you get to move whenever you want. And to be honest, I think that’s enviable. 🙂

[pk92108]

no we are not black….professional white people to answer the post from above…I think the yardwork idea is a pretty good one and I was actually going to be doing that anyway…I am treating it like my own house and watering the newly installed lawn everyday (even though I pay for the water)…

thanks for the good advice….And yes, perhaps there are alot of other professionals juggling the kids and careers which makes little time for socializing….but I will do my part and see what happens…

[pk92108]

no we are not black….professional white people to answer the post from above…I think the yardwork idea is a pretty good one and I was actually going to be doing that anyway…I am treating it like my own house and watering the newly installed lawn everyday (even though I pay for the water)…

thanks for the good advice….And yes, perhaps there are alot of other professionals juggling the kids and careers which makes little time for socializing….but I will do my part and see what happens…

[pk92108]

no we are not black….professional white people to answer the post from above…I think the yardwork idea is a pretty good one and I was actually going to be doing that anyway…I am treating it like my own house and watering the newly installed lawn everyday (even though I pay for the water)…

thanks for the good advice….And yes, perhaps there are alot of other professionals juggling the kids and careers which makes little time for socializing….but I will do my part and see what happens…

[pk92108]

no we are not black….professional white people to answer the post from above…I think the yardwork idea is a pretty good one and I was actually going to be doing that anyway…I am treating it like my own house and watering the newly installed lawn everyday (even though I pay for the water)…

thanks for the good advice….And yes, perhaps there are alot of other professionals juggling the kids and careers which makes little time for socializing….but I will do my part and see what happens…

[pk92108]

no we are not black….professional white people to answer the post from above…I think the yardwork idea is a pretty good one and I was actually going to be doing that anyway…I am treating it like my own house and watering the newly installed lawn everyday (even though I pay for the water)…

thanks for the good advice….And yes, perhaps there are alot of other professionals juggling the kids and careers which makes little time for socializing….but I will do my part and see what happens…

[Coronita]

[quote=pk92108]no we are not black….professional white people to answer the post from above…I think the yardwork idea is a pretty good one and I was actually going to be doing that anyway…I am treating it like my own house and watering the newly installed lawn everyday (even though I pay for the water)…

thanks for the good advice….And yes, perhaps there are alot of other professionals juggling the kids and careers which makes little time for socializing….but I will do my part and see what happens…[/quote]

Pk, my observation here in CV is in the interest of your kids, it’s probably best you get them involved in some sort of activity or sports. Though my neighbors are pretty cool to me and vice versa, we rarely hang out because a lot of us have our own set of friend circles. However, I find that taking my kid to their activity events, I end up spending a lot of time with my kid’s friend’s parents all over carmel valley.

soccer and softball/baseball are pretty big with games always playing on the weekends at parks.

For toddlers, try mingling in the playground at public parks. Or tumbling/gymnastic classes, or the Carmel Valley community center has a boat load of activity.

I’ve got my kid joining a gymanastics class. By the time she’s 6, she’s be just in time to compete in the 2012 olympics. I’ll just make sure to provide a passport that says she’s 16.

[Coronita]

[quote=pk92108]no we are not black….professional white people to answer the post from above…I think the yardwork idea is a pretty good one and I was actually going to be doing that anyway…I am treating it like my own house and watering the newly installed lawn everyday (even though I pay for the water)…

thanks for the good advice….And yes, perhaps there are alot of other professionals juggling the kids and careers which makes little time for socializing….but I will do my part and see what happens…[/quote]

Pk, my observation here in CV is in the interest of your kids, it’s probably best you get them involved in some sort of activity or sports. Though my neighbors are pretty cool to me and vice versa, we rarely hang out because a lot of us have our own set of friend circles. However, I find that taking my kid to their activity events, I end up spending a lot of time with my kid’s friend’s parents all over carmel valley.

soccer and softball/baseball are pretty big with games always playing on the weekends at parks.

For toddlers, try mingling in the playground at public parks. Or tumbling/gymnastic classes, or the Carmel Valley community center has a boat load of activity.

I’ve got my kid joining a gymanastics class. By the time she’s 6, she’s be just in time to compete in the 2012 olympics. I’ll just make sure to provide a passport that says she’s 16.

[Coronita]

[quote=pk92108]no we are not black….professional white people to answer the post from above…I think the yardwork idea is a pretty good one and I was actually going to be doing that anyway…I am treating it like my own house and watering the newly installed lawn everyday (even though I pay for the water)…

thanks for the good advice….And yes, perhaps there are alot of other professionals juggling the kids and careers which makes little time for socializing….but I will do my part and see what happens…[/quote]

Pk, my observation here in CV is in the interest of your kids, it’s probably best you get them involved in some sort of activity or sports. Though my neighbors are pretty cool to me and vice versa, we rarely hang out because a lot of us have our own set of friend circles. However, I find that taking my kid to their activity events, I end up spending a lot of time with my kid’s friend’s parents all over carmel valley.

soccer and softball/baseball are pretty big with games always playing on the weekends at parks.

For toddlers, try mingling in the playground at public parks. Or tumbling/gymnastic classes, or the Carmel Valley community center has a boat load of activity.

I’ve got my kid joining a gymanastics class. By the time she’s 6, she’s be just in time to compete in the 2012 olympics. I’ll just make sure to provide a passport that says she’s 16.

[Coronita]

[quote=pk92108]no we are not black….professional white people to answer the post from above…I think the yardwork idea is a pretty good one and I was actually going to be doing that anyway…I am treating it like my own house and watering the newly installed lawn everyday (even though I pay for the water)…

thanks for the good advice….And yes, perhaps there are alot of other professionals juggling the kids and careers which makes little time for socializing….but I will do my part and see what happens…[/quote]

Pk, my observation here in CV is in the interest of your kids, it’s probably best you get them involved in some sort of activity or sports. Though my neighbors are pretty cool to me and vice versa, we rarely hang out because a lot of us have our own set of friend circles. However, I find that taking my kid to their activity events, I end up spending a lot of time with my kid’s friend’s parents all over carmel valley.

soccer and softball/baseball are pretty big with games always playing on the weekends at parks.

For toddlers, try mingling in the playground at public parks. Or tumbling/gymnastic classes, or the Carmel Valley community center has a boat load of activity.

I’ve got my kid joining a gymanastics class. By the time she’s 6, she’s be just in time to compete in the 2012 olympics. I’ll just make sure to provide a passport that says she’s 16.

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