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October 17, 2016 at 4:21 PM #802433October 17, 2016 at 5:43 PM #802437
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ParticipantEB-1 is an employment-based immigrant category. Once the petition was approved she became permanent resident, eligible to apply for citizenship 5 years later, assuming other conditions were met (mainly continuous residency and moral character).
Do you think Melania’s immigration status is more important than State Department engaging FBI wrt HRC emails?
October 17, 2016 at 6:11 PM #802438FlyerInHi
GuestThanks for the info. I don’t know anyone with EB-1. Aside from you mentioning it, nobody else brought up the possibility.
Sound sketchy Melania would quality.
https://www.uscis.gov/working-united-states/permanent-workers/employment-based-immigration-first-preference-eb-1Melania’s immigration status is important simply because hardline immigration is the most important issue of the Trump campaign. That’s the top reason his base support him
Melania should release her immigration file and Donald his tax returns.
October 17, 2016 at 6:32 PM #802439ucodegen
Participant[quote=all]1) Fashion models do not need bachelor, or equivalent for H-1B (sometimes referenced as H1B, but not H1-B).
2) Immigrants of extraordinary abilities can self-sponsor under EB-1.[/quote]I wonder if the hourly wage of a top model would ‘qualify’ in the eyes of those that want tax money. I pulled Glassdoor and data from ‘photosecrets.com’
https://www.glassdoor.com/Salaries/fashion-model-salary-SRCH_KO0,13.htm
http://photosecrets.com/how-much-to-pay-models
The last I heard for a ‘top model’ was over $3000/hr.
I don’t think there will be too much of a problem of a Visa. One thing they are worried about is the person entering on a visa not being able to support themselves (for a work visa).
The salary levels on tech H-1Bs admittance has gotten ridiculously low, something like $64k. I think I posted it on a thread somewhere else on piggington.
October 17, 2016 at 7:16 PM #802441GuestI doubt Melania was making $3000 per photo shoot. She was like thousand of models in NYC looking for a break.
One thing about Melania is that she was focused. she didn’t party and waste her money.All the evidence so far show that she worked as a tourist for cash then married someone for a green card. Maybe a journalist will find a marriage license in some municipality somewhere because they are public records.
“Stamping visa” every few months is tourist visa.
Look at the timeline. Melania came in 95/96. She got green card in 2001. Married Donald in 2005. No company come forth to corroborate the H1B.
Previous statement said she got green card in 2001 through marriage.October 17, 2016 at 7:17 PM #802440Participant[quote=FlyerInHi]All, thanks for correcting.
Still plenty of unanswered questions.
According to the timeline, in 2001, Melania adjusted from H1B to green card (Wilkes’ letter) not to EB-1. Had she been on EB-1 she would not have been eligible for citizenship in 2006. Citizenship is 5 years after green card or 3 years if green card was through marriage.So, if Melania obtained her citizenship in 2006, only 1 year after marrying Donald, we can only assume she got a green card in 2001. How did she get her green card back then?[/quote]
How about the modeling agency sponsoring her for a green card. The visa for a model is H-1B3. To get this one, you will have to be sponsored by a reputable American agency. There are also O-1 visas that can be obtained by really top models – which do not require an sponsoring by an American modeling agency.NOTE:Melania was at a level in her career at the time that she could have gotten either a O-1 or a H-1B3.
When marrying a foreigner, there is a time period after marriage and applying for spousal naturalization. I suspect that some or all of the time period during her H-1B was used to cover the normal waiting period (I think it is something like 3 years – I can find out if it is really really important). There are different ways to do this.
As for ‘hardline’, I am only hardline on those that want to disrespect the laws, enter the US illegally, then expect to get citizenship, amnesty etc. Yes, the process is messed up and needs to be fixed, but as citizens we are expected to follows the laws of the country, or at least make a genuine effort at trying. Starting off by breaking the laws of the nation and then expecting citizenship is not a very good way to start. I understand that there are hardships in their country (Mexico, Guatemala, etc), but in many cases the move is for economic benefit not true asylum.
I hear claims that by deporting them, we are being cruel. Lets be realistic here. If you are in Mexico illegally, you can be imprisoned there for 2 years in a Mexican jail – and then be deported. It can be more than 2 years if the judge, prosecutors or anyone else with some authority want you to grace their hand with silver(a bribe). Several of these cruelty claims have come from Mexican politicians themselves. On that one point, I think that Mexican politicians need to work on fixing their country so that their own citizens would not want to run to the United States, instead of making claims against our deportation – particularly considering their own rights records. Lets start by having Mexico declare a realistic minimum wage and enforcing it!?
Another thing to consider is that Melania, in the worst case, tried to work within the screwed up system to get the correct visa. She did not sneak across the border. There are many indications that she did do it correctly. Note that the fed has historical records of all visas that were given, and they have been quiet.
http://www.vox.com/2016/8/4/12377286/melania-trump-illegal-immigrantHere’s LA Times:
http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-politics-melania-immigration-20160914-snap-story.htmlYawn – Much Ado About Nothing.
October 17, 2016 at 7:29 PM #802443GuestWildes previously said Melania got green card in 2001 through marriage. Wildes contradicted himself in latest letter.
I think you need to try again.Melania was never a top model. No agency, no fellow model came forward to vouch for her. She was a middle range model trying to survive in NY.
I have nothing against her, but she should have shown humility and kept her mouth shut; and she has after the controversy broke.October 17, 2016 at 7:30 PM #802442Participant[quote=FlyerInHi]I doubt Melania was making $3000 per photo shoot. She was like thousand of models in NYC looking for a break.
One thing about Melania is that she was focused. she didn’t party and waste her money.All the evidence so far show that she worked as a tourist for cash then married someone for a green card. Maybe a journalist will find a marriage license in some municipality somewhere because they are public records.
“Stamping visa” every few months is tourist visa.
Look at the timeline. Melania came in 95/96. She got green card in 2001. Married Donald in 2005. No company come forth to corroborate the H1B.
Previous statement said she got green card in 2001 through marriage.[/quote]
You spewed crap w/o looking at the references.. try again. And yes, she was up in the upper category of models. She doesn’t have the look I like, however her look was ‘in’ at the time.As for every few months on a tours visas, try looking up before spouting (note periods are listed in months):
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B_visaAlso note that she initially got a B-1 in August ’98 – which means she could not work. It was followed by a H-1B in Sept same year which allows work and could apply for green card after.
October 17, 2016 at 7:39 PM #802444Participant[quote=FlyerInHi]Wildes previously said Melania got green card in 2001 through marriage. Wildes contradicted himself in latest letter.
I think you need to try again.Melania was never a top model. No agency, no fellow model came forward to vouch for her. She was a middle range model trying to survive in NY.
I have nothing against her, but she should have shown humility and kept her mouth shut; and she has after the controversy broke.[/quote]
I would be very careful of what you say and make sure you can back it in court. This woman is sue happy, and presently really pissed off. She has already sued the Daily Mail. It is not Wildes that I am pulling data from.Donald Trump may let such things go, but Melania is a different story. I don’t know what you know of women (for real) but I do know they can really hold grudges. Imagine bearishgirl with a good portion of Trump’s resources. Be careful of what you write.
October 17, 2016 at 7:52 PM #802445GuestThe standards for defamation of public figures are different in the U.K.
Actually the women who came forward lately may be able to sue Trump for the comments he made about them. It would be satisfying to see Trump die of a thousand lawsuits.
October 17, 2016 at 8:00 PM #802446Participant[quote=FlyerInHi]The standards for defamation of public figures are different in the U.K.
Actually the women who came forward lately may be able to sue Trump for the comments he made about them. It would be satisfying to see Trump die of a thousand lawsuits.[/quote]
So far, two are down, and probably glad they are not dealing with Melania.October 17, 2016 at 8:33 PM #802447zk
Participant[quote=bearishgurl]
Also, I understand from friends who are on FB that Gilberthorpe is now in the US and has started the rounds on the US MSM today re: his eyewitness observations 36-37 years ago of Leeds on the plane with Trump. Can’t wait to see one of his taped interviews.Let the truth-tellers begin so these gold-digging, publicity-seeking has-been opportunists can crawl back in their holes with their tails between their legs. As it should be.[/quote]
This article and a little bit of common sense tells you this guy is full of shit.
The fact that trumpers give any credence to what a clown like this says shows their incredible desperation.
But, really, anti-trumpers are doing trumpers a favor by even arguing about it. We’re keeping the attention off of trumps even-more-serious flaws. We should stick to this:
[quote=zk]
In addition to the xenophobia and the misogyny, there are all these shocking and disgusting things:
His wanting nuclear weapons to proliferate.
His insistence that the military will follow illegal orders if he gives them.
His threats not to honor our NATO obligations.
His profound ignorance of foreign affairs (“Putin won’t go into Ukraine,” didn’t know what the nuclear triad is).
His desire to commit war crimes (killing terrorists’ families).
His threats not to pay our debts in full.
His birtherism.
His encouragement of Russian hacking.
His encouragement of violence against protesters and against Clinton.
His constant lying of a type and on a scale not seen in any previous presidential candidate (nor in most humans).
Each of these should cause shock and disgust. Put together, they’re so horrific that to not be shocked and disgusted by them indicates to me willful ignorance (or, more likely, a charade, as I explain in the last paragraph). And they don’t even include smaller reasons, many of them quite large, such as his completely unrealistic deportation force/wall ideas, his fascist tendencies, his claim that America is in a death spiral, his climate change denial, his refusal to release his tax returns, his business failures and his stiffing of thousands of workers, his lack of detailed policies, his draft dodging, his scam “university,” his abuse of his foundation, his desire to police speech, his claim that Obama founded ISIS, his frequently incoherent speech and general lack of intellect and knowledge, his refusal to admit/learn from/apologize for his mistakes, his demagoguery, his desire to decimate the Geneva Convention, and his bullying temperament.
And none of that even includes what is, in my opinion, his biggest, most dangerous flaw:
He can’t take an insult. He attacks anyone who says anything marginally negative about him. How is that going to work? The American president (every American president) is constantly being told his ideas and actions are bad ideas and actions. By citizens, by the news media, by foreign leaders, by other political parties, by people in his own party. By senators, congressmen, governors. Basically by everybody. Donald Trump, if elected president, will have to (because that’s who he is) attack all the people who say bad things about him. How is that going to work? A foreign leader says something negative about a Trump proposal or action. Trump attacks that leader. That leader condemns Trump’s attack. Trump gets angry about that and attacks again. Etc. How is that going to work? How is it going to work to give the nuclear codes to a thin-skinned, ill-tempered, petulant, foolish, ignorant, vindictive, disturbed child?[/quote]I have seen little to no defense of the above. Because there really isn’t any.
October 17, 2016 at 11:12 PM #802448Guest[quote=ucodegen] I don’t know what you know of women (for real) but I do know they can really hold grudges. Imagine bearishgirl with a good portion of Trump’s resources. Be careful of what you write.[/quote]
I have a real estate dispute/lawsuit against a woman. long story short, she will lose. Everything could have been avoided if she were nice and reasonable. I just learned to be patient and just laugh. Women are sensitive and they don’t like to be mocked. Easiest way to upset them is to say something not nice and have it get back to them.
The reason I like Hillary is because she’s more like a man. I think it’s stupid for her to try to be more feminine, softer, etc. but I understand society still can’t accept a strong woman. I don’t care because i don’t feel threatened. I hope we elect a butch lesbian one day.
October 18, 2016 at 8:49 AM #802449Participant[quote=FlyerInHi]I don’t know anyone with EB-1. Aside from you mentioning it, nobody else brought up the possibility.[/quote]
You linked to the article with a quote from the attorney. You referenced the actual quote.
“Mrs. Trump self-sponsored for a green card as a model of ‘extraordinary ability,’ and on March 19, 2001 she was admitted to the United States as a lawful permanent resident.”
October 18, 2016 at 9:54 AM #802450Guest[quote=all][quote=FlyerInHi]I don’t know anyone with EB-1. Aside from you mentioning it, nobody else brought up the possibility.[/quote]
You linked to the article with a quote from the attorney. You referenced the actual quote.
“Mrs. Trump self-sponsored for a green card as a model of ‘extraordinary ability,’ and on March 19, 2001 she was admitted to the United States as a lawful permanent resident.”[/quote]
Good catch. Self sponsorship presumes EB-1 as the other options require a sponsor.
If Trump wins there will likely be a Congressional investigation and a matching of her immigration file to her work history.
Otherwise we likely won’t know until after her death when someone writes a book. Immigration files are private and cannot be released unless consent is given for release, or after death.
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