Reasons I cannot vote for Trump

[millennial]

[quote=scaredyclassic]isnt acting civilized just what people do to get what they need or want? we call ourselves civilized, but we play by the rules of the day, just like every other poor slob for 1000s of years. our nature is no different or better. society may be more or less efficient, or violent, but we, we are the same, playing the game to live and breed.

i can imagine a distant relative of mine from a.d. 700, living in some shitty town g-d knows where, just trying to make it in society, same as me.

im no better or worse than he is, in my nature.

so, if the rules allowed a particlar man many sex partners, i would say his nature would likely be in accord with that. now, in ad 700, and forever into the past and future[/quote]

To act civilized and to exist as a civilization requires certain things; one of which is social mores. The act of having numerous sex partners throughout the day goes against current mores. America is more civilized than ancient cultures because we are better than the past. These laws and social mores allow us to create new technology, eat and sleep comfortably, not have to worry about our personal safety, which allows us to have the longest life expectancies in the Earth’s glorious history.

[scaredyclassic]

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[millennial]

[quote=scaredyclassic]
stealing and hitting are nonconsensual. assume consent with all of the rich powerful guys partners..like say for instance loads of women will fuck trump just to get close to power, and he only grabs the pussies of those powerseekers. why is that morally wrong of him to do?

is ot “unnatural”?[/quote]

It would go against popular mores for him to be married and sleeping around with many different partners; meanwhile grandstanding the fact that Bill Clinton was a cheater.

[scaredyclassic]

one a week sex partner change would be ok though? once a month? is it just the multiple dailies thats a problem? given our sexually licentious society, that seems to be splitting hairs. once a day, once a month…no real moral difference.

really…our particular flavor of morality fights disease and led to all our current advances?

much of our current technology is built on the past where morality was quite different.

[scaredyclassic]

it sounds like its not the act itself, but the hypocrosy that is troubling u

[millennial]

[quote=scaredyclassic]one a week sex partner change would be ok though? once a month? is it just the multiple dailies thats a problem? given our sexually licentious society, that seems to be splitting hairs. once a day, once a month…no real moral difference.

really…our particular flavor of morality fights disease and led to all our current advances?

much of our current technology is built on the past where morality was quite different.[/quote]

Our mores are what binds us as a civilization. It’s what allows us to step in at the top of Maslow’s hierarchy instead of having to spend our time at the bottom worried about survival and whether or not someone is going to rape your wife or take out your kids on the way to school.

[scaredyclassic]

[quote=all][quote=scaredyclassic]
1 of 200 men are descendants of ghenghis khan, i read somewhere. insensitive brute.
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Please do not call our common grand-grand-grand-grand-daddy a brute.[/quote]

we owe him our very existence. i wss once just a gleam in ghenghis’eye…

[scaredyclassic]

[quote=yamashi][quote=scaredyclassic]one a week sex partner change would be ok though? once a month? is it just the multiple dailies thats a problem? given our sexually licentious society, that seems to be splitting hairs. once a day, once a month…no real moral difference.

really…our particular flavor of morality fights disease and led to all our current advances?

much of our current technology is built on the past where morality was quite different.[/quote]

Our mores are what binds us as a civilization. It’s what allows us to step in at the top of Maslow’s hierarchy instead of having to spend our time at the bottom worried about survival and whether or not someone is going to rape your wife or take out your kids on the way to school.[/quote]

right. but im talking about consensual acts. surely trump having sex with thousands of aspiring women doesnt endanger your family?

[millennial]

[quote=scaredyclassic]it sounds like its not the act itself, but the hypocrosy that is troubling u[/quote]

Personally I could care less, but public opinion would probably deem hypocrisy and cheating on your wife less desirable traits in a human and president. The public doesn’t hate Derek Jeter or George Clooney for sleeping around with numerous women…but they did hate Tiger Woods for quite some time.

[scaredyclassic]

look, i love the usa, i love the society i live in, and frankly to me it seems like the best the world has ever bern.

and yet the skeptic in me assumes im a moron and wrong about everything, or at least misguided…and prone to think i know something when i know nothing…

[millennial]

[quote=scaredyclassic]
right. but im talking about consensual acts. surely trump having sex with thousands of aspiring women doesnt endanger your family?[/quote]

I don’t think I ever said I have a problem with famous people having sex; in fact I think it’s their life so let them do whatever they want. I do however think that if you are in a relationship it’s important to honor it. Also regarding Tiger Woods, as an avid fan of golf I could care less about what he does off the course, but of course I understand when public opinion forces companies to drop him as a sponsor.

[scaredyclassic]

[quote=yamashi][quote=scaredyclassic]it sounds like its not the act itself, but the hypocrosy that is troubling u[/quote]

Personally I could care less, but public opinion would probably deem hypocrisy and cheating on your wife less desirable traits in a human and president. The public doesn’t hate Derek Jeter or George Clooney for sleeping around with numerous women…but they did hate Tiger Woods for quite some time.[/quote]

i think yourr right on there. its not the act. its understood its nature. its something to do with marriage. or maybe its the sheer reliance on wealth, with no physical attractiveness, that makes it feel so ugly.

being one of 1000 women who slept with clooney sounds like a good story to tell. being one of 1000 women who slept with trump feels gross, and maybe like you should sue him.

[millennial]

[quote=scaredyclassic]look, i love the usa, i love the society i live in, and frankly to me it seems like the best the world has ever bern.

and yet the skeptic in me assumes im a moron and wrong about everything, or at least misguided…and prone to think i know something when i know nothing…[/quote]

You may be a moron, but the world today is the best it has ever been. No other point in time have we been able to communicate our thoughts and opinions to so many people, where we can affect change from our own living room, and where we are truly masters of our own lives.

[millennial]

[quote=scaredyclassic]

i think yourr right on there. its not the act. its understood its nature. its something to do with marriage. or maybe its the sheer reliance on wealth, with no physical attractiveness, that makes it feel so ugly.

being one of 1000 women who slept with clooney sounds like a good story to tell. being one of 1000 women who slept with trump feels gross, and maybe like you should sue him.[/quote]

It’s because he’s personified to be a real douche bag and known to take advantage of others misfortunes. If you slept with him, it’s probably because he took advantage of your drunken state. Meanwhile, Clooney and Jeter are personified to be classy gentleman. They are not known to cheat on their wives and girlfriends and Jeter at least leaves a signed baseball and flowers on the nightstand.

[scaredyclassic]

and yet, there is the pesky problem that nearly half the country supports trump, which indicates to me that they are pissed off, unhappy and think their lives, their deal, their society sucks.

so maybe it does suck…at least 4 them.

make america great again…

means they are not liking it now..

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