Reasons I cannot vote for Trump

[svelte]

Meh. Getting boring. Don’t think the debate will move the needle much.

[ltsddd]

[quote=svelte]Meh. Getting boring. Don’t think the debate will move the needle much.[/quote]

The moderators have my respect.

[Coronita]

Are you guys watching this actually? I tuned out once I figured they won’t really be talking about the main issues anyway…The economy and taxes.

[ltsddd]

[quote=flu]Are you guys watching this actually? I tuned out once I figured they won’t really be talking about the main issues anyway…The economy and taxes.[/quote]

You missed out big time about taxes…trump now said he paid millions, hundred of millions in taxes…haha

[Coronita]

[quote=ltsdd][quote=flu]Are you guys watching this actually? I tuned out once I figured they won’t really be talking about the main issues anyway…The economy and taxes.[/quote]

You missed out big time about taxes…trump now said he paid millions, hundred of millions in taxes.[/quote]

Meh, I care what Hillary has to say about the step-up cost basis when you die and pass on your property to your kids. I believe she was for eliminating that, which would have huge implications on anyone with assets. What was unclear was whether she was a proponent of eliminating this completely or eliminating this only for people who made $2million or more /year.

In any case, like I said, everyone’s taxes is going to go up, regardless of whether Trump or Hillary is in office. And if these tax laws get revised because Hillary wins and the GOP loses the majority in Congress, well… the alt-right republicans that made Trump where he is pretty much to blame for this disaster.

[svelte]

[quote=flu]Are you guys watching this actually?[/quote]

I watched the first 15 min or so, then left it on in the b/g while I did other things around the house, checking in once in a while.

They said about what you’d expect them to say from the pieces I caught.

[svelte]

Best lines from reddit:

“Hey GOP – how does if feel to be forced to carry something unwanted to term?”

“Well that does it. I’m definitely not voting for Bill.”

“As a non-American this debate felt like whatever the opposite of the moon landing was.”

“Please stop this senseless beating, his campaign is already dead.”

“Donald’s answer was very clear on his sexual assault admission. ‘ISIS is much worse than me.’ ”

“If someone can get him to actually answer a question, they should be president.”

“To be fair though, he really doesn’t have any answers.”

“I said this in the thread and will say it again. I think the sniff is Trump’s tell. Right before he tells a whopper of a lie “sniff” then lie. Or maybe it is just everytime he opens his mouth is the the tell. I am trying to figure it out. ”

I have to start reading reddit more often. 🙂

[utcsox]

[quote=flu][quote=ltsdd][quote=flu]Are you guys watching this actually? I tuned out once I figured they won’t really be talking about the main issues anyway…The economy and taxes.[/quote]

You missed out big time about taxes…trump now said he paid millions, hundred of millions in taxes.[/quote]

Meh, I care what Hillary has to say about the step-up cost basis when you die and pass on your property to your kids. I believe she was for eliminating that, which would have huge implications on anyone with assets. What was unclear was whether she was a proponent of eliminating this completely or eliminating this only for people who made $2million or more /year.

In any case, like I said, everyone’s taxes is going to go up, regardless of whether Trump or Hillary is in office. And if these tax laws get revised because Hillary wins and the GOP loses the majority in Congress, well… the alt-right republicans that made Trump where he is pretty much to blame for this disaster.[/quote]

If you are a middle class who make $732K a year(top 1%), or an upper middle class who is making $3.8 million a year(top 0.1%), or really top of the line upper middle class who have income over $5 million a dollar, you are really screw under Mrs. Clinton’s tax plan.

If you are a super duper upper middle class who has $500 million when you died, there is a 65% tax on estate. All joking aside, you shall read this excellent article of Hilary tax proposal from WSJ below:

http://www.wsj.com/articles/hillary-clinton-targets-tax-hikes-at-the-very-top-1475863171

[Coronita]

[quote=utcsox][quote=flu][quote=ltsdd][quote=flu]Are you guys watching this actually? I tuned out once I figured they won’t really be talking about the main issues anyway…The economy and taxes.[/quote]

You missed out big time about taxes…trump now said he paid millions, hundred of millions in taxes.[/quote]

Meh, I care what Hillary has to say about the step-up cost basis when you die and pass on your property to your kids. I believe she was for eliminating that, which would have huge implications on anyone with assets. What was unclear was whether she was a proponent of eliminating this completely or eliminating this only for people who made $2million or more /year.

In any case, like I said, everyone’s taxes is going to go up, regardless of whether Trump or Hillary is in office. And if these tax laws get revised because Hillary wins and the GOP loses the majority in Congress, well… the alt-right republicans that made Trump where he is pretty much to blame for this disaster.[/quote]

If you are a middle class who make $732K a year(top 1%), or an upper middle class who is making $3.8 million a year(top 0.1%), or really top of the line upper middle class who have income over $5 million a dollar, you are really screw under Mrs. Clinton’s tax plan.

If you are a super duper upper middle class who has $500 million when you died, there is a 65% tax on estate. All joking aside, you shall read this excellent article of Hilary tax proposal from WSJ below:

http://www.wsj.com/articles/hillary-clinton-targets-tax-hikes-at-the-very-top-1475863171%5B/quote%5D

I couldn’t access your WSJ link, but I’ve been trying to figure out what exactly her position is on certain tax issues.

Like I said, there’s the issue of estate taxes (which really isn’t an issue) unless your net worth is more than 10milion. But aside from that, there’s the issue related to step-up cost basis, which is separate from estate taxes. That’s about capital gains.

[utcsox]

[quote=flu][quote=utcsox][quote=flu][quote=ltsdd][quote=flu]Are you guys watching this actually? I tuned out once I figured they won’t really be talking about the main issues anyway…The economy and taxes.[/quote]

You missed out big time about taxes…trump now said he paid millions, hundred of millions in taxes.[/quote]

Meh, I care what Hillary has to say about the step-up cost basis when you die and pass on your property to your kids. I believe she was for eliminating that, which would have huge implications on anyone with assets. What was unclear was whether she was a proponent of eliminating this completely or eliminating this only for people who made $2million or more /year.

In any case, like I said, everyone’s taxes is going to go up, regardless of whether Trump or Hillary is in office. And if these tax laws get revised because Hillary wins and the GOP loses the majority in Congress, well… the alt-right republicans that made Trump where he is pretty much to blame for this disaster.[/quote]

If you are a middle class who make $732K a year(top 1%), or an upper middle class who is making $3.8 million a year(top 0.1%), or really top of the line upper middle class who have income over $5 million a dollar, you are really screw under Mrs. Clinton’s tax plan.

If you are a super duper upper middle class who has $500 million when you died, there is a 65% tax on estate. All joking aside, you shall read this excellent article of Hilary tax proposal from WSJ below:

http://www.wsj.com/articles/hillary-clinton-targets-tax-hikes-at-the-very-top-1475863171%5B/quote%5D

I couldn’t access your WSJ link, but I’ve been trying to figure out what exactly her position is on certain tax issues.

Like I said, there’s the issue of estate taxes (which really isn’t an issue) unless your net worth is more than 10milion. But aside from that, there’s the issue related to step-up cost basis, which is separate from estate taxes. That’s about capital gains.[/quote]

If you do not have subscription to WSJ but still want to read its content. You can do a google search of the article title(Hilary Clinton targets tax hikes at the very top) and click on it. Then you shall be able to read it for free.

[an]

[quote=flu][quote=ltsdd][quote=flu]Are you guys watching this actually? I tuned out once I figured they won’t really be talking about the main issues anyway…The economy and taxes.[/quote]

You missed out big time about taxes…trump now said he paid millions, hundred of millions in taxes.[/quote]

Meh, I care what Hillary has to say about the step-up cost basis when you die and pass on your property to your kids. I believe she was for eliminating that, which would have huge implications on anyone with assets. What was unclear was whether she was a proponent of eliminating this completely or eliminating this only for people who made $2million or more /year.

In any case, like I said, everyone’s taxes is going to go up, regardless of whether Trump or Hillary is in office. And if these tax laws get revised because Hillary wins and the GOP loses the majority in Congress, well… the alt-right republicans that made Trump where he is pretty much to blame for this disaster.[/quote]Does it really matter what she say? She said so herself that she has a private and public position. What you hear might not be what the private bankers hear.

[FlyerInHi]

I watched the debate.

It’s funny how Trump keeps on insisting that he was against the Iraq war.
It’s kind of ironic because all the deplorables I know were for the war, as was all the Republican Party.

Democrats like me were against it. And democrats like Clinton were also against the war but voted for it because they were afraid of public opinion after 9/11. At that time Americans wanted to kick ass. People were rejoicing over shock and awe.

[FlyerInHi]

On women voters that Trump needs to win over… i wonder if women vote like their husbands or it is the other way around?

What are your experiences, married guys and gals?

For me, I wouldn’t want to have sex with someone i fundamentally disagreed with.

[svelte]

As SK and I said prior, Trump’s words were not locker room talk:

http://www.cnn.com/2016/10/10/politics/locker-room-talk-athletes-respond-trnd/index.html

And Trump has admitted he lies. Either he lied on the bus to Billy Bush, or he lied in last night’s debate when he said he didn’t do the things he said to Billy Bush. Take your pic – either path leads to a lie.

[svelte]

[quote=FlyerInHi]On women voters that Trump needs to win over… i wonder if women vote like their husbands or it is the other way around?

What are your experiences, married guys and gals?

For me, I wouldn’t want to have sex with someone i fundamentally disagreed with.[/quote]

I’m sure every couple is different.

Some wives follow men’s lead, some men follow the wive’s lead. Some couples do their own thing at the ballot box. I can tell you we are in the do your own thing category. She’s very bright and makes good choices, as am I.

I can tell you that women tend to be more liberal and my wife often votes well to the left of me, especially on propositions.

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