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September 30, 2016 at 9:21 AM #801664September 30, 2016 at 9:28 AM #801665
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GuestMy impression of Romney is that he is a decent guy.
It’s just really hard these days for anyone with any decency to be a part of the hate machine that the Republican party has become.
September 30, 2016 at 9:56 AM #801668FlyerInHi
Guest[quote=harvey]My impression of Romney is that he is a decent guy.
It’s just really hard these days for anyone with any decency to be a part of the hate machine that the Republican party has become.[/quote]
Yes, as a person, I believe that Romney is a good guy. So is McCain. But their ambitions caused them to embrace and empower the hateful, uneducated elements of the party (prime example being Sarah Palin). As party leaders, their work should have been to cleanse the party. Either way, they would have lost.
Plenty of good, decent people choose to be on the wrong side of history. And history will judge them harshly.
September 30, 2016 at 10:12 AM #801669SK in CV
Participant[quote=svelte]I always figured the polls would get closer.
It looks like it has happened for several reasons:
– people typically grumble then end up falling in line with their traditional party of preference
– people have had time to get used to the idea of Trump carrying the GOP torch
– press needs to portray the elections as close so folks will get out and vote instead of thinking it doesn’t matter anyway
– Johnson siphoning off Bernie supportersIt will be interesting to see how Trump changes his stance in Debate 2.0.
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That’s really appropriate observations from a week or 10 days ago. New polling data comes out 10 times a day, sometimes much more than that. Beginning 10 days ago, independents started losing ground, and Trump and Clinton gained. Some days one gained a little more than the other. Until Monday, even before the debate. Since then, there has been a clear spread, with Clinton continuing on the same track she’s been on (in the polling), and Trump on a decline, with Clinton now holding the largest lead she’s held since the beginning of the month.
There’s currently little evidence that Sanders supporters are now supporting Johnson.
Trump is now being who Trump is. The arrogant know-nothing narcissist, who can’t ignore an insult, and is incapable of staying focused for more than a few seconds at a time. Rather than attracting new voters, he’s convinced that his cheers from existing voters means he’s doing well, and reacting to the next shiny object rather than taking the advice of his experienced political operatives. And his own problematic past is catching up with him at the very worst time for his campaign.
He can’t negate the “racist, anti-woman image he has”, because it’s not an image. It is Donald Trump. He didn’t pick a woman because he doesn’t think of women as equals. He might understand TV, but he doesn’t understand politics. And he’s sharply underestimated how bad this campaign could be for his franchise. He could be bankrupt and broke in 5 years.
September 30, 2016 at 3:44 PM #801688cvmom
Participant[quote=SK in CV]It is Donald Trump. He didn’t pick a woman because he doesn’t think of women as equals. He might understand TV, but he doesn’t understand politics. And he’s sharply underestimated how bad this campaign could be for his franchise. He could be bankrupt and broke in 5 years.[/quote]
Unfortunately, I think this is wishful thinking. I took an Uber ride yesterday with a Muslim immigrant driver (naturalized US citizen) from Iraq. I was so sure he would be voting Hillary…but no. He didn’t like either major party option, so is planning not to vote at all. If even a Muslim immigrant is planning to stay home on election day, it seems to me that there is a real chance of a President Trump.
September 30, 2016 at 4:12 PM #801689Participant[quote=cvmom]Unfortunately, I think this is wishful thinking. I took an Uber ride yesterday with a Muslim immigrant driver (naturalized US citizen) from Iraq. I was so sure he would be voting Hillary…but no. He didn’t like either major party option, so is planning not to vote at all. If even a Muslim immigrant is planning to stay home on election day, it seems to me that there is a real chance of a President Trump.[/quote]
Fortunately, we have better tools at our disposal than your one person survey. National and state by state surveys confirm that Clinton is comfortably in the lead.
October 1, 2016 at 9:49 AM #801716zk
Participant[quote=SK in CV][quote=cvmom]Unfortunately, I think this is wishful thinking. I took an Uber ride yesterday with a Muslim immigrant driver (naturalized US citizen) from Iraq. I was so sure he would be voting Hillary…but no. He didn’t like either major party option, so is planning not to vote at all. If even a Muslim immigrant is planning to stay home on election day, it seems to me that there is a real chance of a President Trump.[/quote]
Fortunately, we have better tools at our disposal than your one person survey. National and state by state surveys confirm that Clinton is comfortably in the lead.[/quote]
She’s leading right now. Let’s hope it stays that way. I understand cvmom’s concern. I know several otherwise-semi-reasonable (or so I thought) people, none of whom fit the typical Trump demographic (uneducated, working-class white), who are very much in favor of Trump. If cvmom’s uber driver isn’t voting, and these upper-middle to lower-upper class people are voting for Trump, then there is, in my opinion, a chance that Trump could come from behind (again) and win.
My retirement, which is next year, comes a bit late. If I could, I’d be in North Carolina or Florida or Pennsylvania right now going door-to-door. Nothing less than the future of our country is at stake. Now is not the time to be complacent.
October 1, 2016 at 6:34 PM #801725carli
ParticipantI read this NY Times article about Trump pushing Asian Americans (who’ve replaced Hispanics as the fastest growing racial group in the U.S.) into “Democratic arms” and thought of flu, AN and my Asian American friends…so true! -http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/02/us/politics/trump-asian-american-voters.html?smid=fb-nytimes&smtyp=cur&_r=0.
October 1, 2016 at 6:59 PM #801726
CoronitaParticipant[quote=carli]I read this NY Times article about Trump pushing Asian Americans (who’ve replaced Hispanics as the fastest growing racial group in the U.S.) into “Democratic arms” and thought of flu, AN and my Asian American friends…so true! -http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/02/us/politics/trump-asian-american-voters.html?smid=fb-nytimes&smtyp=cur&_r=0.[/quote]
The more Trump and his followers blame minorities for all of their economic ills (that were more or less self induced), the more this is going to happen.
It’s just a matter of time before the hate/anger spills over from Muslims and Latinos to anyone else that is of color. It’s even more hysterical that Trump was trying to win the votes of African Americans. Trump and his racist followers won’t just stop at Muslims and Latinos. They’ll move on to Indians and Asians, next. The common theme is. “I’m suffering economically…Rather than the problem being my life choices, it’s (insert minority to blame here) fault”…Very ironic to the GOP mantra of “personal responsibility”. I guess not many people in really believe in it. oh well.
My sibling and her husband are ultra-conservative and never ever voted Democrat for the past 30 years…It will be a first for them when they vote for HRC, reluctantly I might add.
My concern is I hope we don’t have a landslide in senate and house. We need a balanced government. We need a return to something moderate, not something ridiculously extreme at either end of the spectrum.
October 1, 2016 at 7:07 PM #801727CoronitaParticipant[quote=zk][quote=SK in CV][quote=cvmom]Unfortunately, I think this is wishful thinking. I took an Uber ride yesterday with a Muslim immigrant driver (naturalized US citizen) from Iraq. I was so sure he would be voting Hillary…but no. He didn’t like either major party option, so is planning not to vote at all. If even a Muslim immigrant is planning to stay home on election day, it seems to me that there is a real chance of a President Trump.[/quote]
Fortunately, we have better tools at our disposal than your one person survey. National and state by state surveys confirm that Clinton is comfortably in the lead.[/quote]
She’s leading right now. Let’s hope it stays that way. I understand cvmom’s concern. I know several otherwise-semi-reasonable (or so I thought) people, none of whom fit the typical Trump demographic (uneducated, working-class white), who are very much in favor of Trump. If cvmom’s uber driver isn’t voting, and these upper-middle to lower-upper class people are voting for Trump, then there is, in my opinion, a chance that Trump could come from behind (again) and win.
My retirement, which is next year, comes a bit late. If I could, I’d be in North Carolina or Florida or Pennsylvania right now going door-to-door. Nothing less than the future of our country is at stake. Now is not the time to be complacent.[/quote]
Congrats on the retirement!
It’s my personal opinion is to fight fire with fire. Trump wants a slugfest, Hillary should just continue to hit below the belt.
It’s pretty obvious that Trump just can’t stop and let go on the most petty things. So double down on his weakness, and keep bring up things that demonstrates he’s so mentally unfit to lead a country…..
Most people in this country enjoy watching Jerry Springer. So in order to win this election, you got to win the populist vote among the Jerry Springer crowd.
October 1, 2016 at 8:17 PM #801729Guest[quote=carli]I read this NY Times article about Trump pushing Asian Americans (who’ve replaced Hispanics as the fastest growing racial group in the U.S.) into “Democratic arms” and thought of flu, AN and my Asian American friends…so true! -http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/02/us/politics/trump-asian-american-voters.html?smid=fb-nytimes&smtyp=cur&_r=0.[/quote]
Interesting article. As a resident of Vegas, I can say that the article feels very right.
The Democratic Party is no longer just blue collar and Jesse Jackson. The Democratic Party better reflects the values of first tier American cities and of an educated, globally connected population. I believe Asians are the most traveled population and more likely to be involved in international trade. Any big city airport is full of Asian travelers and even vendors.
October 1, 2016 at 9:02 PM #801730CoronitaParticipantBoom….
Looks like he’s going to be hiding his taxes for lots of reasons….I’m sure his taxes are perfectly legal. Though, it’s going to be interesting how his team is going to try to explain to some guy in rural Mississippi why he paid no taxes….lol…I say this as I’m finishing my own 2015 taxes….lol…
Donald J. Trump declared a $916 million loss on his 1995 income tax returns, a tax deduction so substantial it could have allowed him to legally avoid paying any federal income taxes for up to 18 years, records obtained by The New York Times show.The documents show, for example, that while Mr. Trump reported $7.4 million in interest income in 1995, he made only $6,108 in wages, salaries and tips. They also suggest Mr. Trump took full advantage of generous tax loopholes specifically available to commercial real estate developers to claim a $15.8 million loss in 1995 on his real estate holdings and partnerships.
But the most important revelation from the 1995 tax documents is just how much Mr. Trump may have benefited from a tax provision that is particularly prized by America’s dynastic families, which, like the Trumps, hold their wealth inside byzantine networks of partnerships, limited liability companies and S corporations.
The provision, known as net operating loss, or N.O.L., allows a dizzying array of deductions, business expenses, real estate depreciation, losses from the sale of business assets and even operating losses to flow from the balance sheets of those partnerships, limited liability companies and S corporations onto the personal tax returns of men like Mr. Trump. In turn, those losses can be used to cancel out an equivalent amount of taxable income from, say, book royalties or branding deals.
Oh, and this was funny…
Because the documents sent to The Times did not include any pages from Mr. Trump’s 1995 federal tax return, it is impossible to determine how much he may have donated to charity that year. The state documents do show, though, that Mr. Trump declined the opportunity to contribute to the New Jersey Vietnam Veterans’ Memorial Fund, the New Jersey Wildlife Conservation Fund or the Children’s Trust Fund. He also declined to contribute $1 toward public financing of New Jersey’s elections for governor.October 1, 2016 at 10:58 PM #801733enron_by_the_sea
ParticipantSo he is one of the 47% then!
October 1, 2016 at 11:22 PM #801734an
Participant[quote=carli]I read this NY Times article about Trump pushing Asian Americans (who’ve replaced Hispanics as the fastest growing racial group in the U.S.) into “Democratic arms” and thought of flu, AN and my Asian American friends…so true! -http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/02/us/politics/trump-asian-american-voters.html?smid=fb-nytimes&smtyp=cur&_r=0.[/quote]I don’t know if Trump pushes AA to vote D or just not vote. We’ll just have to wait and see. Personally speaking, I definitely officially pushed me away from R. If the “Democrat arms” give them Affirmative Action like we saw in CA, I’m pretty sure those AA will be running the other way pretty quickly.
What I’m interested to see is where the Republican will go from here. Will they go down with the ship and all of Trump’s supporter. Or will they splinter off into another party. Or will they kick out the Trump supporter and go back to the free trade/small gov Republican.
October 2, 2016 at 7:19 AM #801736no_such_reality
ParticipantTrump is going to get slaughtered on this like Romney and frankly I don’t care.
I could tell you everything wrong with the reporting and the perception, but then I’d be helping Trump.
I’m guessing, like me, you did everything you legally could to minimize your 2015 tax bill when doing your taxes.
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