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June 20, 2016 at 6:49 PM #798911June 20, 2016 at 6:53 PM #798913
PCinSD
Guest[quote=PCinSD][quote=SK in CV][quote=PCinSD]
Nice dodge. So you have no problem with ISIS chucking gay men off of tall buildings?
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You didn’t say this? Are you taking it back? Are you claiming your computer was hacked? Or are you making the lamest disingenuous argument that it’s structure absolves you of any responsibility for making an accusation?
No, you’re not “just asking”. The structure implies that it is a logical conclusion from something I’ve said. It isn’t. There is nothing in anything that I’ve said that would imply such a question is warranted or reasonable. Your question IS an accusation.
There’s no shame in acknowledging that you’ve made a mistake. But this wasn’t a mistake. It was an intentional accusation. That’s what scum does.
You want 23 more instances of preachers applauding 50 deaths? Google it. First few pages I found at least 4 more. One just a few miles from where I live.[/quote]
Before I address that, please provide your proof to support your contention that I support any politician, let alone Trump. And that I’m racist. Or was your computer hacked? Or were you making the lamest disengenuous argument that it’s structure absolves you of any responsibility for making an accusation?
You 1st.
You made the unsubstantiated claim that dozens of Christian pastors applauded the killings in Orlando. The onus is on you to support that claim. You must have it at your fingertips in order to make such a claim.
Or, like usual, you are full of shit and not accustomed to being called on it.[/quote]
Chirp. Lie much?
June 20, 2016 at 7:13 PM #798914SK in CV
ParticipantI’m done. Seriously. Drop it. And grow up. And learn how to craft an argument. You suck at it. I’ve apologized to Rich. You should do the same. By leaving. Out.
June 20, 2016 at 7:34 PM #798915Guest[quote=SK in CV]I’m done. Seriously. Drop it. And grow up. And learn how to craft an argument. You suck at it. I’ve apologized to Rich. You should do the same. By leaving. Out.[/quote]
I’m not surprised. You’ve told me to drop it before. Then went ahead and attacked me. I don’t need to “craft an argument” to simply quote your posts and prove you are a lying hypocrite. Any teenager with internet access could’ve done the same thing. If you can prove any of the nonsense you’ve posted, I will leave this site forever. Deal?
Specifically:
Show me where I’ve lied, ever.
Show me a link(s) proving “dozens” of Christian pastors applauded the killings in Orlando.
Show me anywhere I’ve remotely supported Trump.
Show me anywhere where I’ve been remotely racist.That’s cute you’ve apologized to Rich. If you don’t provide proof to me of the aforementioned, you owe an apology to me, not Rich.
June 20, 2016 at 7:39 PM #798916Participant[quote=PCinSD]
That’s cute you’ve apologized to Rich. If you don’t provide proof to me of the aforementioned, you owe an apology to me, not Rich.[/quote]
I said it’s over, and it is. But I never said you were a racist. That’s at least your 2nd lie here. I did say you’re a liar before and I’ve provided the quote. And you’re not getting an apology from me for calling you out for lying. Wipe your chin. You have something on it.
June 20, 2016 at 7:49 PM #798918Guest[quote=SK in CV][quote=PCinSD]
That’s cute you’ve apologized to Rich. If you don’t provide proof to me of the aforementioned, you owe an apology to me, not Rich.[/quote]
I said it’s over, and it is. But I never said you were a racist. That’s at least your 2nd lie here. I did say you’re a liar before and I’ve provided the quote. And you’re not getting an apology from me for calling you out for lying. Wipe your chin. You have something on it.[/quote]
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Not mad. Sad that stupidity doesn’t hurt more. I don’t have a bff here. Trump’s your guy. Check the mirror before you call people racist.[/quote]What did you mean when you said “Trump’s your guy” and “check the mirror before you call people racist”?
Did you mean to say “I have no idea what political affiliation you are” and “you are not racist”.?
June 20, 2016 at 7:55 PM #798919Guest[quote=SK in CV][quote=PCinSD]
That’s cute you’ve apologized to Rich. If you don’t provide proof to me of the aforementioned, you owe an apology to me, not Rich.[/quote]
I said it’s over, and it is. But I never said you were a racist. That’s at least your 2nd lie here. I did say you’re a liar before and I’ve provided the quote. And you’re not getting an apology from me for calling you out for lying. Wipe your chin. You have something on it.[/quote]
You’ve never provided a quote of me proving I lied, liar. If so, it would take seconds for you to provide it. Please, just prove it already. And while you’re at it, prove that I’m racist, support Trump, and that DOZENS of Christian pastors applauded the Orlando massacre. Liar.
June 20, 2016 at 10:22 PM #798920carli
ParticipantWall St Journal reported today on Moody’s recent analysis of Trump’s economic proposals, saying their report “is the first that attempts to quantify the cumulative economic benefits and costs of Mr. Trump’s proposals on taxes, trade, immigration and spending.”
Bottom line? WSJ writes the Moody’s report “determines that full adoption of those [Trump’s] policies would sharply reduce economic output during his first term and reduce employment by 3.5 million jobs. Under almost any scenario, the report says, ‘the U.S. economy will be more isolated and diminished.'”
Also, “The report singles out [Trump’s] trade and immigration policies as the most detrimental to the economy in the short run because they could sharply boost labor and goods prices at a time when there’s less slack in the labor market.”
Wow, what a dealmaker Trump is. A dealmaker of very bad deals for Americans.
June 21, 2016 at 7:49 AM #798924livinincali
Participant[quote=carli]Wall St Journal reported today on Moody’s recent analysis of Trump’s economic proposals, saying their report “is the first that attempts to quantify the cumulative economic benefits and costs of Mr. Trump’s proposals on taxes, trade, immigration and spending.”
Bottom line? WSJ writes the Moody’s report “determines that full adoption of those [Trump’s] policies would sharply reduce economic output during his first term and reduce employment by 3.5 million jobs. Under almost any scenario, the report says, ‘the U.S. economy will be more isolated and diminished.'”
Also, “The report singles out [Trump’s] trade and immigration policies as the most detrimental to the economy in the short run because they could sharply boost labor and goods prices at a time when there’s less slack in the labor market.”
Wow, what a dealmaker Trump is. A dealmaker of very bad deals for Americans.[/quote]
His protectionist policies most certainly would reduce economic activity in the short term. If he did anything about the medical monopolies in this country it would reduce economic activity. The question is would the country be better off in the long term. Doing something about the medical monopolies and costs associated with those monopolies would be a huge relief to the taxpayers and insurance rates over the long term. Unfortunately in the short term you’d put hundreds of thousands of paper pushers working in those industries out of work. There would be a painful readjustment.
I do think that whomever gets elected in this election is likely a one term president. Mostly because I expect a fairly significant economic dislocation to happen within the next 4 years and the government/fed unable to respond to it in an effective manner. Economic concerns are behind the Sanders and Trump movement. A more likable outsider that focused on economic issues would crush this field.
June 21, 2016 at 10:27 AM #798925La Jolla Renter
ParticipantAs a small business owner, I disagree that reforming the medical monopolies will reduce economic activity. If I can reduce health care and insurance costs, I can hire more people and put the savings into growing my business vs taking cost cutting action that may actually cut a job or 2.
Small business got fvcked by the Obama Administration.
June 21, 2016 at 10:33 AM #798926Participant[quote=La Jolla Renter]As a small business owner, I disagree that reforming the medical monopolies will reduce economic activity. If I can reduce health care and insurance costs, I can hire more people and put the savings into growing my business vs taking cost cutting action that may actually cut a job or 2.
Small business got fvcked by the Obama Administration.[/quote]
It will be a good thing in the longer term but talking about 1 or 2 years when it initially happens will result in a technical recession. Spending on medical care is included in GDP. It will take a bit of time for businesses to make changes due to the reduced cost and will take awhile to show up in GDP.
June 21, 2016 at 11:13 AM #798927FlyerInHi
GuestLivin’, how exactly will Trump reduce medical costs?
Your posts gloss over Trump the candidate, and are basically standard republican orthodoxy. That ignores the reality of Trump. He’s not a “normal” republican.
June 21, 2016 at 11:17 AM #798928spdrun
ParticipantThe only thing that will reduce medical costs is national basic insurance, but Americans are too fucking brainwashed to support that.
June 21, 2016 at 11:24 AM #798930Guest[quote=La Jolla Renter]As a small business owner, I disagree that reforming the medical monopolies will reduce economic activity. If I can reduce health care and insurance costs, I can hire more people and put the savings into growing my business vs taking cost cutting action that may actually cut a job or 2.
Small business got fvcked by the Obama Administration.[/quote]
Can you please provide more details? I’m involved in a business under 50 employees and we’re glad employees have obamacare.
If you’re taking cost cutting actions, you’re improving productivity, something you would do anyway. But the stats show that productivity is stagnant in the economy.
June 21, 2016 at 11:31 AM #798931Guest[quote=spdrun]The only thing that will reduce medical costs is national basic insurance, but Americans are too fucking brainwashed to support that.[/quote]
Republicans are too tied to ideology to support policies that work. Medicare for all, infrastructure spending, etc… I’m surprised they are willing to ignore the advice of mainstream economists and forgo money and wealth.
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