Reasons I cannot vote for Trump

[bearishgurl]

[quote=AN][quote=bearishgurl]Uhh, AN, if you’re referring to me as a “Trump supporter,” you should be aware that I haven’t made up my mind yet but am leaning towards …[/quote]
You should reread what I posted. I said you and the many Trump supporter. I didn’t say you are a Trump supporter. You, like many Trump supporters think these racism $hit are made up. You just don’t understand.[/quote]I DO think some of Trump’s comments regarding new Muslims trying to enter the US and building a wall to prevent new illegal border crossers to enter the country has been overblown (almost entirely by the MSM quoting young, college student protesters who added in a few more “races” and “nationalities” to the two groups Trump has discussed in his rallies).

Has Trump actually stated anywhere that he intends to have US Homeland Security make a “clean sweep” to deport any groups already in the country illegally? Maybe I’ve been in living in a dark closet (and only had 4-5 TV channels left, as of Sunday) but I don’t recall that he has ever said that. How did discrimination against Asian nationalities come into the discussion? If elementary school kids are truly actually now asking each other if they should be deported (as flu asserts here), how did that discussion come about? How does a third-grader know what “deported” means? Where are these kids getting their information from? Certainly not from their teachers but very possibly from misinformed parents and other adult relatives who are trash-talking to each other what they heard at work or on facebook, etc, and can’t think critically for themselves.

Yeah, a lot of the Trump campaign rhetoric is specifically about TWO groups (one of which has proven dangerous to the US if not vetted thoroughly before being granted a visa and one which has cost this country a bundle in every way, shape and form). These TWO groups Trump has been discussing have apparently now been expanded and exaggerated by young, ignorant college-student protesters and the MSM “quoting them” to include everyone present in this country who does not appear to be “white.”

It’s all a crock of BS and lots of “tuned in” people to the MSM and social media seem to be falling for it. I’m glad I don’t participate in social media and my TV service is on its way out :=0

[an]

[quote=bearishgurl]Has Trump actually stated anywhere that he intends to have US Homeland Security make a “clean sweep” to deport any groups already in the country illegally? Maybe I’ve been in living in a dark closet (and only had 4-5 TV channels left, as of Sunday)[/quote]
LoL, yes, you’re living in a dark closet. Now it all make sense why you’re saying the stuff you’re saying.

[bearishgurl]

[quote=AN][quote=flu]To be fair, I don’t this sort of racism was any more or less than before Trump. Its probably always existed. Its just now people probably think it is acceptable behavior.[/quote]I don’t think Trump is making America more racist. But I do think he make those closet racist to think it’s OK to say it out loud and “make America great again”.[/quote]If this is actually, true, why should any of us be bothered by the utterance of a “racist” idiot? Is this person actually your boss, your pastor or your landlord? Just let it roll off your back.

[bearishgurl]

[quote=AN][quote=bearishgurl]Has Trump actually stated anywhere that he intends to have US Homeland Security make a “clean sweep” to deport any groups already in the country illegally? Maybe I’ve been in living in a dark closet (and only had 4-5 TV channels left, as of Sunday)[/quote]
LoL, yes, you’re living in a dark closet. Now it all make sense why you’re saying the stuff you’re saying.[/quote]

Do you have any links to videos of Trump saying these things?

[an]

[quote=bearishgurl][quote=AN][quote=bearishgurl]Has Trump actually stated anywhere that he intends to have US Homeland Security make a “clean sweep” to deport any groups already in the country illegally? Maybe I’ve been in living in a dark closet (and only had 4-5 TV channels left, as of Sunday)[/quote]
LoL, yes, you’re living in a dark closet. Now it all make sense why you’re saying the stuff you’re saying.[/quote]

Do you have any links to videos of Trump saying these things?[/quote]That is his platform. Try and use “the Google”.

[FlyerInHi]

[quote=AN][quote=flu]To be fair, I don’t this sort of racism was any more or less than before Trump. Its probably always existed. Its just now people probably think it is acceptable behavior.[/quote]I don’t think Trump is making America more racist. But I do think he make those closet racist to think it’s OK to say it out loud and “make America great again”.[/quote]

I look at it a little differently. When there is enough societal censure, certain behaviors such as racism eventually die and cease to exist in the mainstream.
But when an influencial leader implicitly condones racism, then it makes a come back in the mainstream.

Republicans have practiced the politics of division to leverage the votes of working class Whites. That phenomenon has been well studied.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_strategy

[an]

[quote=bearishgurl][quote=AN][quote=flu]To be fair, I don’t this sort of racism was any more or less than before Trump. Its probably always existed. Its just now people probably think it is acceptable behavior.[/quote]I don’t think Trump is making America more racist. But I do think he make those closet racist to think it’s OK to say it out loud and “make America great again”.[/quote]If this is actually, true, why should any of us be bothered by the utterance of a “racist” idiot? Is this person actually your boss, your pastor or your landlord? Just let it roll off your back.[/quote]
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/donald-trump-violence_us_56e6ca5fe4b065e2e3d66f79
Easy for you to say. No one is going to beat you up because of your skin color.

[bearishgurl]

[quote=AN][quote=bearishgurl][quote=AN][quote=bearishgurl]Has Trump actually stated anywhere that he intends to have US Homeland Security make a “clean sweep” to deport any groups already in the country illegally? Maybe I’ve been in living in a dark closet (and only had 4-5 TV channels left, as of Sunday)[/quote]
LoL, yes, you’re living in a dark closet. Now it all make sense why you’re saying the stuff you’re saying.[/quote]

Do you have any links to videos of Trump saying these things?[/quote]That is his platform. Try and use “the Google”.[/quote]I’ve already used “the google” on Donald Trump, as well as all the other presidential candidates. But I’ve never found any videos where he has stated that he plans to have groups of people already in the country illegally actually deported if he becomes president. I think you might be using “MSM spin” of his rally statements by a third party to come to your conclusions, AN.

[bearishgurl]

[quote=AN][quote=bearishgurl][quote=AN][quote=flu]To be fair, I don’t this sort of racism was any more or less than before Trump. Its probably always existed. Its just now people probably think it is acceptable behavior.[/quote]I don’t think Trump is making America more racist. But I do think he make those closet racist to think it’s OK to say it out loud and “make America great again”.[/quote]If this is actually, true, why should any of us be bothered by the utterance of a “racist” idiot? Is this person actually your boss, your pastor or your landlord? Just let it roll off your back.[/quote]
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/donald-trump-violence_us_56e6ca5fe4b065e2e3d66f79
Easy for you to say. No one is going to beat you up because of your skin color.[/quote]How do YOU know what color, race, Nationality (or combination thereof) I am? I’ve done a bit of public speaking in my life and have gotten unwarranted criticism and other personal “low blows” directed my way. I let it roll off my back. If you don’t want to let it roll off your back, you have my permission to tell anyone making “racist comments” directed at you to, “Go to h@ll” :=0

[an]

[quote=bearishgurl]How do YOU know what color, race, Nationality (or combination thereof) I am? I’ve done a bit of public speaking in my life and have gotten unwarranted criticism and other personal “low blows” directed my way. I let it roll off my back. If you don’t want to let it roll off your back, you have my permission to tell anyone making “racist comments” directed at you to, “Go to h@ll” :=0[/quote]
I don’t care about verbal attacks (sticks and stones and all that jazz) but I do care about physical ones.

[Coronita]

What amazes is Ben Carson got behind him. Talk about one confused idiot.

I have to thank Trump for showing me just how crazy most of the GOP candidates are at the national level.

Seems like many of them need obamacare to cover some of their mental health issues.

[an]

[quote=flu]What amazes is Ben Carson got behind him. Talk about one confused idiot.

I have to thank Trump for showing me just how crazy most of the GOP candidates are at the national level.

Seems like many of them need obamacare to cover some of their mental health issues.[/quote]
+1

[no_such_reality]

[quote=AN][quote=bearishgurl][quote=AN][quote=flu]To be fair, I don’t this sort of racism was any more or less than before Trump. Its probably always existed. Its just now people probably think it is acceptable behavior.[/quote]I don’t think Trump is making America more racist. But I do think he make those closet racist to think it’s OK to say it out loud and “make America great again”.[/quote]If this is actually, true, why should any of us be bothered by the utterance of a “racist” idiot? Is this person actually your boss, your pastor or your landlord? Just let it roll off your back.[/quote]
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/donald-trump-violence_us_56e6ca5fe4b065e2e3d66f79
Easy for you to say. No one is going to beat you up because of your skin color.[/quote]

http://www.kansas.com/news/local/crime/article66147652.html

The police are using plenty of caution. Reviewing multiple videos, other witnesses in the parking lot.

[bearishgurl]

[quote=AN]
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/donald-trump-violence_us_56e6ca5fe4b065e2e3d66f79
Easy for you to say. No one is going to beat you up because of your skin color.[/quote]

The incident in your link happened at a gas station in KS, NOT at a Trump rally. Yeah, I know KS is a red state with a few backwoods rednecks in residence there. There is also a large Middle-Eastern population there, especially among business owners in the smaller cities and towns which would have turned into ghost towns by now without that group immigrating there in the past 15-20 years. I just stayed in a large motor lodge in KS in early November run by a Pakistani family and that hotel is one of many in KS run by Middle Eastern families. Both the husband and wife were very friendly and the husband even helped me unload my bags into my room (situated right in front of my car) when I reported to him that a 6’6″ “white” drunken, age 40ish male (it turned out he was a “regular” nuisance in town) was drinking out of a paper bag on the curb and started to walk towards me when I first opened my trunk. I only stay in motor lodges on the ground floor where I can park my car right outside my door or window so am used dealing to nonsensical stuff like this (especially in small towns). Overall, the room was huge, the hotel was well-maintained and the breakfast was nice and I would stay there again due to its reasonable price and helpful owners.

I am a bit troubled that the only “witness” to the purported “Trump comments” made by the attacker were the Muslim kid who saw his friend get attacked and tried to break up the fight. That kid’s statements that the attacker mentioned Trump as a reason they should “go home” was quoted in the article. Since he is presumably “Muslim,” how reliable is that comment if he may have been under the mistaken impression that he could be deported if Trump is elected? It’s very possible that BOTH of these kids actually grew up in KS and were there legally. I mean, KS is not exactly a “tourist trap” :=0

The young reporter “Amanda” spun the article to imply that it was somehow Trump’s fault that people are acting like this in public when Trump was nowhere to be found.

Yes, it’s too bad that some people who call themselves “Trump supporters” are so ignorant that they believe as if Trump is some sort of “deity” whom they will “worship” and who, if elected, will fix all their problems in life. Some of them no doubt seem to enjoy “quoting” Trump (out of context, of course) to anyone who will listen. Trump has an apparent “charisma” among his so-called “supporters” who reside in regions of the country which have experienced an unfortunate long-term economic downturn simply because that’s where the campaign trail is right now. It’s going to be interesting to see how Trump’s rallies in CA, WA and OR turn out.

There is a link in your KS article about a homeless man who was beat up by two Boston attackers who were nothing more than “white thugs,” IMO.

https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2015/08/19/homeless/iTagewS4bnvBKWxxPvFcAJ/story.html

“White thuggery” also seems to be a culture unto itself now. I’ve even seen it among adult women residing in well-known “blue states.” In one “blue state” I visited last year, I have never seen so many “white-appearing” (mostly very “chubby”) scantily-dressed and heavily-tattooed young women in my life all shopping in one store at one time, many with up to five young kids in tow! It was shocking to me. I couldn’t imagine in a million years presenting myself in public as they do when I was that age … or ANY age, for that matter!

I think various “American subcultures” (of dress, action and thought) all existed long before Trump came onto the scene. The MSM is now giving Trump wa-a–a-y too much credit for sh!t happening which he has absolutely no control over :=0

[an]

[quote=bearishgurl]
The incident in your link happened at a gas station in KS, NOT at a Trump rally.[/quote]I’m not going to bother reading past this first sentence. You’re just going to deny and give a whole bunch of irrelevant words to defend your denial. So, whatever. I’m done w/ this “debate”. Enjoy your Kool-Aid.

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