Proposition 25

[carlsbadworker]

I’m still struggling with this one. On one hand, California is the only state that needs 2/3 majority on both the budget approval and the taxes, which could contribute to its budget mess. But on the other hand, we know that the Democrats will not wait to defend the public employee’s benefits if Proposition 25 is passed, which will worsen the state budget situation. Yet, I am yet to see any evidence that 2/3 majority can prevent the latter from happening. In most cases, they will just add to the budget mess by giving some Republicans their shares of pet-projects/priorities.

Anyone has some good arguments for either side?

[Anonymous]

Why does it have to be partisan?

Simple majority will require less consensus, which means budgets will be passed more easily.

One advantage: Less likely to get deadlock like we do every few years.

Are budgets that are easier to pass going to include more or less wasteful spending?

Are there other, more compelling, advantages or disadvantages?

I dunno.

[Anonymous]

Why does it have to be partisan?

Simple majority will require less consensus, which means budgets will be passed more easily.

One advantage: Less likely to get deadlock like we do every few years.

Are budgets that are easier to pass going to include more or less wasteful spending?

Are there other, more compelling, advantages or disadvantages?

I dunno.

[Anonymous]

Why does it have to be partisan?

Simple majority will require less consensus, which means budgets will be passed more easily.

One advantage: Less likely to get deadlock like we do every few years.

Are budgets that are easier to pass going to include more or less wasteful spending?

Are there other, more compelling, advantages or disadvantages?

I dunno.

[Anonymous]

Why does it have to be partisan?

Simple majority will require less consensus, which means budgets will be passed more easily.

One advantage: Less likely to get deadlock like we do every few years.

Are budgets that are easier to pass going to include more or less wasteful spending?

Are there other, more compelling, advantages or disadvantages?

I dunno.

[Anonymous]

Why does it have to be partisan?

Simple majority will require less consensus, which means budgets will be passed more easily.

One advantage: Less likely to get deadlock like we do every few years.

Are budgets that are easier to pass going to include more or less wasteful spending?

Are there other, more compelling, advantages or disadvantages?

I dunno.

[poorgradstudent]

Proposition 25 falls into the category of “Props I don’t care much about either way”. It doesn’t have a lot of teeth; a 2/3 vote is still required for tax increases and the state constitution has a lot of mandated spending. I don’t think we’re likely to see drastic increases or cuts in spending if prop 25 passes, nor if it fails.

I’m lukewarm in my support for it if only because it will help avoid debacles where public workers are paid minimum wage while the legislature irons out partisan budget squabbles.

Based on polling 25 looks likely to pass, but I’m having a hard time really caring either way.

[poorgradstudent]

Proposition 25 falls into the category of “Props I don’t care much about either way”. It doesn’t have a lot of teeth; a 2/3 vote is still required for tax increases and the state constitution has a lot of mandated spending. I don’t think we’re likely to see drastic increases or cuts in spending if prop 25 passes, nor if it fails.

I’m lukewarm in my support for it if only because it will help avoid debacles where public workers are paid minimum wage while the legislature irons out partisan budget squabbles.

Based on polling 25 looks likely to pass, but I’m having a hard time really caring either way.

[poorgradstudent]

Proposition 25 falls into the category of “Props I don’t care much about either way”. It doesn’t have a lot of teeth; a 2/3 vote is still required for tax increases and the state constitution has a lot of mandated spending. I don’t think we’re likely to see drastic increases or cuts in spending if prop 25 passes, nor if it fails.

I’m lukewarm in my support for it if only because it will help avoid debacles where public workers are paid minimum wage while the legislature irons out partisan budget squabbles.

Based on polling 25 looks likely to pass, but I’m having a hard time really caring either way.

[poorgradstudent]

Proposition 25 falls into the category of “Props I don’t care much about either way”. It doesn’t have a lot of teeth; a 2/3 vote is still required for tax increases and the state constitution has a lot of mandated spending. I don’t think we’re likely to see drastic increases or cuts in spending if prop 25 passes, nor if it fails.

I’m lukewarm in my support for it if only because it will help avoid debacles where public workers are paid minimum wage while the legislature irons out partisan budget squabbles.

Based on polling 25 looks likely to pass, but I’m having a hard time really caring either way.

[poorgradstudent]

Proposition 25 falls into the category of “Props I don’t care much about either way”. It doesn’t have a lot of teeth; a 2/3 vote is still required for tax increases and the state constitution has a lot of mandated spending. I don’t think we’re likely to see drastic increases or cuts in spending if prop 25 passes, nor if it fails.

I’m lukewarm in my support for it if only because it will help avoid debacles where public workers are paid minimum wage while the legislature irons out partisan budget squabbles.

Based on polling 25 looks likely to pass, but I’m having a hard time really caring either way.

[PatentGuy]

I tend to vote no on propositions, and Prop 25 was no exception. I realize it will likely pass, but I agree with the above comments that it won’t make much difference in the big picture, since Calif is beyond broke, and the unions will not be able to sustain the pension gravy train even if the jacked the top tax rate to 100%

The only propositions that got my yes vote this time around were Prop 19 and Prop 23.

Prop 19 is a no-brainer for me. This “war on certain drugs but not other drugs” has to end.

I was on the fence about Prop 23 until I read an interview of one of the local VC billionaires who is gung ho on AB32 in order to redistribute a big chunk of CA tax (and borrowed) money into his own pocket. It’s bad enough that CA redistributes my income to pay for $400K a year stress 50% tax free lifetime disability pensions for police chiefs that are not disabled, but redistributing it to billionare venture capitalists is beyond the pale.

[PatentGuy]

I tend to vote no on propositions, and Prop 25 was no exception. I realize it will likely pass, but I agree with the above comments that it won’t make much difference in the big picture, since Calif is beyond broke, and the unions will not be able to sustain the pension gravy train even if the jacked the top tax rate to 100%

The only propositions that got my yes vote this time around were Prop 19 and Prop 23.

Prop 19 is a no-brainer for me. This “war on certain drugs but not other drugs” has to end.

I was on the fence about Prop 23 until I read an interview of one of the local VC billionaires who is gung ho on AB32 in order to redistribute a big chunk of CA tax (and borrowed) money into his own pocket. It’s bad enough that CA redistributes my income to pay for $400K a year stress 50% tax free lifetime disability pensions for police chiefs that are not disabled, but redistributing it to billionare venture capitalists is beyond the pale.

[PatentGuy]

I tend to vote no on propositions, and Prop 25 was no exception. I realize it will likely pass, but I agree with the above comments that it won’t make much difference in the big picture, since Calif is beyond broke, and the unions will not be able to sustain the pension gravy train even if the jacked the top tax rate to 100%

The only propositions that got my yes vote this time around were Prop 19 and Prop 23.

Prop 19 is a no-brainer for me. This “war on certain drugs but not other drugs” has to end.

I was on the fence about Prop 23 until I read an interview of one of the local VC billionaires who is gung ho on AB32 in order to redistribute a big chunk of CA tax (and borrowed) money into his own pocket. It’s bad enough that CA redistributes my income to pay for $400K a year stress 50% tax free lifetime disability pensions for police chiefs that are not disabled, but redistributing it to billionare venture capitalists is beyond the pale.

[PatentGuy]

I tend to vote no on propositions, and Prop 25 was no exception. I realize it will likely pass, but I agree with the above comments that it won’t make much difference in the big picture, since Calif is beyond broke, and the unions will not be able to sustain the pension gravy train even if the jacked the top tax rate to 100%

The only propositions that got my yes vote this time around were Prop 19 and Prop 23.

Prop 19 is a no-brainer for me. This “war on certain drugs but not other drugs” has to end.

I was on the fence about Prop 23 until I read an interview of one of the local VC billionaires who is gung ho on AB32 in order to redistribute a big chunk of CA tax (and borrowed) money into his own pocket. It’s bad enough that CA redistributes my income to pay for $400K a year stress 50% tax free lifetime disability pensions for police chiefs that are not disabled, but redistributing it to billionare venture capitalists is beyond the pale.

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