The problem with California

[moneymaker]

Heard a news story on TV this morning that they will be cleaning gum off the walkways at Cabrillo this weekend. That is great news! But what caught my attention was when it was reported that gum is considered hazardous waste. Really? Something that was in somebody’s mouth is hazardous waste. I think not. California wants to label everything as dangerous, then slap on regulations and then tax people to pay for hiring an expert to regulate it. That in a nutshell is what is wrong with California. Half the stuff I buy has some cancer warning label on it. California sued the federal government for allowing illegals in and now they are suing because they are building a wall. California seems to be bipolar.

[spdrun]

Maybe biohazard what with the Hep A issue in San Diego?

[The-Shoveler]

The Coffee thing really got to me (How many centuries have we been drinking coffee now?)

I think the next thing will be Bread toasters LOL.

[all]

[quote=The-Shoveler]How many centuries have we been drinking coffee now?[/quote]

Interestingly, coffee and tobacco smoking came to Europe almost simultaneously, but from different parts of world.

[FlyerInHi]

I’m pretty health conscious. The other day I was stripping layers of paint off of a circuit breaker cover. Thick layers of paint that I think is toxic. Imagine an old house with layers upon layers of paint outgassing toxins.

Yeah, lots of things are dangerous and if we avoid them, we’d live longer. We just need to compromise for convenience/pleasure.

My dog preferred to stay out on the patio. I think she could smell the “bad” air inside.

If I had money, I’d build a house using only natural materials without paint or stuff that outgas.

[spdrun]

Old layers of paint have probably done all the off-gassing they were supposed to do already.

[The-Shoveler]

Too much is too much,

When you think about it they should ban electric cars too.

Ozone and radiation.

[FlyerInHi]

Not banning, warnings

[ucodegen]

[quote=FlyerInHi]I’m pretty health conscious. The other day I was stripping layers of paint off of a circuit breaker cover. Thick layers of paint that I think is toxic. Imagine an old house with layers upon layers of paint outgassing toxins.[/quote]

Old paint, and for most cases, paint past 1 year, does not outgass. In fact, the out-gassing of most paints ends when it is dry (except urethanes – which take weeks to cure ). However, if the paint is pre 1978, you may have a lead issue. That means any skin contact as well as dust inhalation..

An interesting side effect of California Low VOC requirements, is that I found that the Low VOC Urethanes California mandates take longer to cure than higher VOC Urethanes, and they don’t seem to be as stable.

NOTE: Interesting link on a Toxic Waste® gum: https://www.huffingtonpost.com/anneli-rufus/fda-toxic-waste-gum-is-to_1_b_841262.html

NOTE: One problem of too many warnings that are largely irrelevant, is that it increases the noise ‘floor’ to the warnings such that when it is an important and critical warning, it gets lost in all of the noise – and ignored.

[scaredyclassic]

I bought a bag of organic cacao nibs.

Ingredients, 100 percent cacao

Bag had a warning label saying there was something that caused cancer.

The bag?

The nibs?

Air?

[njtosd]

[quote=scaredyclassic]I bought a bag of organic cacao nibs.

Ingredients, 100 percent cacao

Bag had a warning label saying there was something that caused cancer.

The bag?

The nibs?

Air?[/quote]

Almost every plant produces something to deter predators – in fact, many things that humans like, such as spicy peppers, mint, etc are actually supposed to be unappealing and discourage animals from eating the plants that produce them. Many produce mutagens (cancer causing agents) – think of taxol, vinca alkaloids or poisons like belladonna. Here is a link to an article about all the (naturally occurring) carcinogens in Thanksgiving dinner: https://www.scribd.com/mobile/document/153941243/ACSH-Holiday-Dinner-Menu

Fruit generally has fewer of these things because plants want fruits to be consumed. For this reason I haven’t been terribly committed to shoving large amounts of vegetables into my children, but I do encourage fruit.

[The-Shoveler]

They will need to add warning labels in the veggie and bread aisles.

[FlyerInHi]

What we need to worry about with fruit and veggies are the insecticide and chemicals used in industrial agriculture. Why do they need to wax apples and other stuff? Yeah, to make them pretty for stupid consumers.
BTW, I’m not slamming modern agriculture. We need it to feed the world. But there are certain things we can do much better for health reasons.

Call me whack if you wish… but we need warning labels on room freshener, car fresheners, fabric softener. When I smell those things, I feel nauseated.

Carpet it a bad thing to have inside your house. It’s outgasses and then breaks down for you to breathe in the dust.

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