the prius prime

[Coronita]

not that it’s a problem here.. But EV cars might have issues in cold climates.

[spdrun]

You’re still warming the oil temperature from outside temperature (50 to 80F) to operating temperature (220-250F).

[scaredyclassic]

[quote=treehugger]What dealership did you use? I miss my old prius and this seriously has me tempted to get rid of the Volvo SUV. I live near the Carlsbad Toyota dealership, but have not had good experience with them….[/quote]

I got a bunch of internet quotes all in a day, took the lowest price to temecula valley toyota that night, they matched the lowest and I bought it.

I normally would try to do a few rounds of trying to get each to go lower, but I felt like there arent that many 2019s around and it required some quick decisionmaking.

[scaredyclassic]

My mom thinks it’s terrible that I bought cars for my 3 kids, but I commute only by bike.

I think its cool

[Coronita]

[quote=scaredyclassic]My mom thinks it’s terrible that I bought cars for my 3 kids, but I commute only by bike.

I think its cool[/quote]

Nah.. You’re part of the cool club now…

[scaredyclassic]

[quote=flu][quote=scaredyclassic]My mom thinks it’s terrible that I bought cars for my 3 kids, but I commute only by bike.

I think its cool[/quote]

Nah.. You’re part of the cool club now…

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RksFDe6nkaY%5B/quote%5D

Haha.

But seriously, why buy any other car?

[Coronita]

[quote=scaredyclassic][quote=flu][quote=scaredyclassic]My mom thinks it’s terrible that I bought cars for my 3 kids, but I commute only by bike.

I think its cool[/quote]

Nah.. You’re part of the cool club now…

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RksFDe6nkaY%5B/quote%5D

Haha.

But seriously, why buy any other car?[/quote]

It’s just missing one small aftermarket upgrade… But yes, this proves you really dont need any other car.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uzLNC-strf0

[gzz]

SPD a lot of CUVs these days are like 3 inches higher than the sedan platform they are based on. I would get a minivan before a full size crossover or SUV. But compact CUVs these days are basically the midsize hatchbacks of 10-15 years ago.

[FlyerInHi]

We will see, but I believe that the future of the car market will be subscription. Why buy a car when you could rent for the period you need a car?

We have archaic laws that require cars be sold through dealerships. Those laws will slow down the development of new business models, wealth creation, and consumer choices. I believe that Tesla got an exemption in order to sell direct.

https://www.nbcnews.com/business/autos/california-could-shut-down-those-popular-car-subscription-services-n1046481

[spdrun]

FiH — the future is subscription in dense urban areas. In less dense cities like San Diego, people use their cars like purses or backpacks … they don’t want to have to fully unload them between uses. Don’t underestimate the pack-rat tendencies of most Americans.

[spdrun]

gzz – I’d rather have an actual hatchback, whether it’s an Impreza, Insight, or Prius. I don’t need the “tough” styling designed to cater to suburban cowards who want to feel as tall as a pickup truck. My ideal car would actually be an electric Miata or MR2. Low, light, simple, unsafe, as cars should be!

If I wanted a tall car, I’d get a minivan. At least it’s honest and not pretentious.

[treehugger]

We are seriously trying to buy one for our daughter (or at least help her buy one), she is in college and wants a new car (grandpa is giving her a few thousand for down payment) and I have e-mailed about 20 dealerships and they are the biggest bunch of morons I have ever dealt with!!! How soon can you get down here and test drive??? As soon as you give me the best deal I will come purchase! Does anybody actually waste their time dealing with these idiots in person? At least at home i can have a drink and relax on my couch while I waste my time. Or talk to them while I am out on a run with my dogs, that was fun!

I search the internet it says base model MSRP is $27,350 with $3,500 toyota incentive starting point should be $23,850 plus any other incentives from dealership, they have marked the cars up and are trying to pretend the $3,500 off of $29,800 is a great deal, do they not use google? Type in 2019 Prius Prime MSRP and every site says starting at $27,350!!! Only one dealership actually provided a breakdown of costs and I am still awaiting final, but we are at about $21,900-$4,500 fed rebate would equal $17,400 and she would definitely qualify for the state rebate of $1500, so now at $15,900, ugh, don’t really want to drive to Moreno Valley tomorrow!

[zk]

[quote=treehugger]We are seriously trying to buy one for our daughter (or at least help her buy one), she is in college and wants a new car (grandpa is giving her a few thousand for down payment) and I have e-mailed about 20 dealerships and they are the biggest bunch of morons I have ever dealt with!!! How soon can you get down here and test drive??? As soon as you give me the best deal I will come purchase! Does anybody actually waste their time dealing with these idiots in person? At least at home i can have a drink and relax on my couch while I waste my time. Or talk to them while I am out on a run with my dogs, that was fun!

I search the internet it says base model MSRP is $27,350 with $3,500 toyota incentive starting point should be $23,850 plus any other incentives from dealership, they have marked the cars up and are trying to pretend the $3,500 off of $29,800 is a great deal, do they not use google? Type in 2019 Prius Prime MSRP and every site says starting at $27,350!!! Only one dealership actually provided a breakdown of costs and I am still awaiting final, but we are at about $21,900-$4,500 fed rebate would equal $17,400 and she would definitely qualify for the state rebate of $1500, so now at $15,900, ugh, don’t really want to drive to Moreno Valley tomorrow![/quote]

I don’t know about other dealers, but Dodge dealers clearly list their prices and incentives online for every car they have in stock. When I bought my Challenger Scat Pack last year, I looked at the website of every Dodge dealer in California and looked at each of their Scat Packs. The cheapest two (by a significant margin) were at the same dealer in Marin County. I called the guy and said, “how much is the car going to cost out the door.” And he said the price on the internet plus tax, title, and fees. He told me exactly how much the tax and fees would be (I think the fees were like 80 bucks or something) and gave me an estimate on the title (which is set by the DMV anyway). I told him I’d be on a plane in two hours and asked if I was going to have any surprises when I got there. He promised me I wouldn’t and I didn’t. I got it for about $2,000 cheaper than anywhere else in the state, and about $9,500 off MSRP.

If the manufacturer of the car you’re looking for lists their prices like that, it’s a great way to go.

[Myriad]

[quote=spdrun]FiH — the future is subscription in dense urban areas. In less dense cities like San Diego, people use their cars like purses or backpacks … they don’t want to have to fully unload them between uses. Don’t underestimate the pack-rat tendencies of most Americans.[/quote]

That sounds about right. If you’re in NYC, yeah, you don’t need a car. But in SD… people have sports gear, surfboards, kids strollers, etc.

[Coronita]

[quote=treehugger]We are seriously trying to buy one for our daughter (or at least help her buy one), she is in college and wants a new car (grandpa is giving her a few thousand for down payment) and I have e-mailed about 20 dealerships and they are the biggest bunch of morons I have ever dealt with!!! How soon can you get down here and test drive??? As soon as you give me the best deal I will come purchase! Does anybody actually waste their time dealing with these idiots in person? At least at home i can have a drink and relax on my couch while I waste my time. Or talk to them while I am out on a run with my dogs, that was fun!

I search the internet it says base model MSRP is $27,350 with $3,500 toyota incentive starting point should be $23,850 plus any other incentives from dealership, they have marked the cars up and are trying to pretend the $3,500 off of $29,800 is a great deal, do they not use google? Type in 2019 Prius Prime MSRP and every site says starting at $27,350!!! Only one dealership actually provided a breakdown of costs and I am still awaiting final, but we are at about $21,900-$4,500 fed rebate would equal $17,400 and she would definitely qualify for the state rebate of $1500, so now at $15,900, ugh, don’t really want to drive to Moreno Valley tomorrow![/quote]

I am sorry because people like me ruined it for people like you.

I bought all my cars over the internet with a large paper trail and now internet sales managers are very hesitant to deal with people over email because they know that the moment they give a price, you’ll shop it across 10 other dealers until you find the lowest one….

However you only really need one dealer to name a price and then you can let the ball roll.

My advice is to first contact one dealer via TrueCar. Don’t let the TrueCar estimate fool you. You can usually do a lot better than TrueCar … all the cars I bought we’re always well below the “exceptional” price range .

Get one estimate from exactly one dealer from TrueCar. Then take that estimate and open your favorite HTML editor and knock a few hundred off that email and forward it to the next dealer to see if they can beat it. Contact the interest sales dept directly not through TrueCar, that way it costs the dealership less. Rinse and repeat. Usually the Toyota dealers that have a large inventory are usually the ones that are more willing to wheel and deal over the internet. Don’t ever set foot in the showroom. Never give them your real phone number … Always do things over email or text. I negotiated my last car completely over SMS between 4 dealers. Cerritos and Browning in LA, and El Cajon and Mission Valley down here. Some of them didn’t want to do it over email,so I convinced them to do it over text. I guess they felt it was more like over the phone than over email (despite SMS having a paper trail too. )

On first year production car (4 months from US debut) I got my car about $4200 below MSRP or about $1500 below invoice. That was better the friends paying MSRP (lol) and family s-plan discount pricing. My original car that I wanted was a previous year leftover that I got down to about $7100 but decided I wanted the current year model. The two dealers up LA provided the feeder prices, I got Mission Valley to match, then I applied a high pressure text blast to El Cajon saying I was going to buy in a few hours and I needed a price quote. El Cajon lowered their price and sent me the OTD total price via SMS..I took a screenshot of that and forwarded it to Mission Valley and said make me an offer so I don’t need to go all the way to ElCajon. The salesman find ally got tired of it and gave me a final price $800 below ElCajon….I bought it the same day.
….and then burned my temporary Google Voice number and never heard from the other 3 dealers again.

Yes, I guess it was kind of cold and brutal…Bit I never got a good treatment whenever I was physically in any of the dealerships…With the exception of the Aston Martin dealership in Kearny Mesa, who was very nice to me and offered me a test drive and Porsche of San Diego that let me borrow the 991 911s demo for almost an hour to try it out. God I miss driving that car….But buying that short sales condo was a better investment back then..

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