Population Change

[4plexowner]

Our government is letting huge numbers of illegals into the country because they know Social Security and the other entitlement programs are doomed without an influx of new people

Our entitlement programs are ponzi schemes and we are running out of new suckers to come in at the bottom – these illegal immigrants provide the pool of suckers

Part of this plan is to grant amnesty to all the illegal immigrants so we can fully integrate them into the ongoing ponzi scheme – notice that all the ‘immigration reform’ being discussed includes some type of amnesty

I think it comes down to a choice: do we
1) accept that Social Security, Medicare and all the other entitlement programs have to be drastically pared down/eliminated, or do we
2) allow another 100-300 million people to immigrate into this country and accept the lower standard of living that will go along with that increased population?

It appears to me that the powers that be are choosing option ‘2’. I say this based on our wide-open southern borders and the move towards a North American Union.

[kewp]

Hey, I’m completely opposed to illegal immigration. It’s like line-cutting to me, a f*ck you to all the good folk waiting their turn and doing it through proper channels. I’m all for denying illegals basic services and sending them back from whence they came.

That said, the reason there is such an influx of illegals here is that there are lots of Americans willing to give them them money to do stuff. Every flipper I’ve ever known would remodel their houses with day workers they picked up from in front of Frazee paints. Same thing with construction managers and contractors.

If you want to make a dent in illegal immigration, you need to punish the rich white folk that are profiting off of them. Otherwise they will just keep on coming.

[Anonymous]

Makes sense, kewp.

[ibjames]

I wish we would toughen up laws. A mother comes to the united states illegally and has the baby here. That baby is not a citizen.

I know it sounds horrible but no medical attention either. Nothing. If the risks are higher people will think twice about it. If they know that they hurt themselves and can’t get help until they come all the way back to their country they will think about it.

This topic could be pages. Off topic but juice I wish you well. Don’t forget though that if you move somewhere else a mexican won’t be cutting your grass, or blowing leaves out of your gutters and shoveling your sidewalk. So home ownership could be less blissful than it may seem.

[Sandi Egan]

I know it sounds horrible but no medical attention either. Nothing. If the risks are higher people will think twice about it.

Even if you start shooting illegal immigrants on the streets, there will be people, who would risk that.
Kewp is right, the solution is not to punish the immigrants, but to remove the incentive for them to come here. If they can’t find jobs here, why would they even bother? People who hire illegal immigrants are much easier target for law enforcement. I bet most people will avoid paying for illegal labor, if they knew they could actually go to jail for it.

[Sandi Egan]

That said, the problem of course has no solution. It is not specific to the US or to the present day. There are always better places, and poor people always flock there. Always have been that way.
It does get harder with global economy and Internet age, when low-wage workers don’t even need to be physically present here to get the jobs. I guess we will just have to make our peace with that fact, and work harder to become better competitors in the global market.

[Author]

Posts