Population Change

[drunkle]

“In the mean time, they make the barriers to entry for other foreigners (who will generally be more educated) higher. ”

or, you could examine the stats on asian immigration and see that despite their higher levels of education and potential income, they’ve been historically barred from entry.

“A large and increasing portion of the population have a strong sense of entitlement.”

like, all the suburban white kids who didn’t try very hard in school, but had the advantage of middle/upper middle class homes complaining how all the mexicans are moving in, taking over, etc.

“For months I have allowed myself to become angry about housing prices, spending hours researching the crash and complaining to my wife about the high cost of living here. It has made my angry, it has made me bitter, and it has made me feel like a second class citizen in my interactions with family, friends who own homes, and even random strangers. I never could have anticipated the psychological affects that this has had on me over time that include despair, anger, resentment, jealousy and on and on. Yes, the warning signs of depression – from a guy who is generally very happy, easy going and never been depressed in his life! ”

for months… what about those people who have felt that way for generations, who don’t have the option of picking up and moving out to some podunk town where they can fit right in. instead, they can be escorted right through the county and back out to some other neglected cesspit.

[Anonymous]

Good for you Juice-man!

Where are you heading?

I recently moved out to the OC from Chicago. Great city! North side and northwest are great places to raise a family. RE prices are reasonable, but not as cheap as my other recommendations below….

As one poster noted, Ann Arbor, MI (Go Blue…I graduated from UM some years back) is a great town, and there are a ton of places to live. RE market in AA is way down due to Pfizer laying off 6,000 staff and the auto industry execs cutting back.

If you can stand the heat and bugs, big ass Texas bugs…I recommend Austin, TX! People are a blast, schools are great, cost of living is so dirt cheap you will love it. Lots of culture too! No joke. Austin has a lot going for it.

Good luck! I have always admired people who see something better for themselves and take action!! Good for you!

Biotech-Dude

[kewp]

I have to admit there is a somewhat racist tone to this thead that I find disturbing.

I hope everyone realizes that while RE may be through the roof here in SD (and that will soon change I’m sure), other stuff is really pretty cheap. We can thank immigrant labor for that.

That said, sorry to see you go and I’m glad you are doing what you want. I myself went through a similar phase, but decided to live the life I want to in SD, with no apologies and as a happy renter.

I have a great career, walk to work, set my own hours, make enough to pay my bills and have some fun on the weekends, great friends and generally can do as I please.

Just a vote of confidence for those that are choosing to stay!

[sdrealtor]

Two words….Social Darwinism

[Anonymous]

We have a massive influx of poor, uneducated immigrants combined with huge demographic changes the likes of which this city and country haven’t seen in generations. Simply stating these trends and detailing the reasons that you are concerned about them does not make you a racist.

[SD Realtor]

Juice –

I wish you the very best of luck also. Personally I think you are making a good decision. I have had clients who I still keep in touch with in Washington, (they love it there) but it has run up pretty fast. In Utah, St Georges may be a little to rural for you… In Virginia, they are military and really like it there. Finally in North Carolina, where that other family really likes it as well…. Personally I would pick North Carolina but there is no reason behind it.

Anyways it is nice to see you take action and give it a shot. Keep us informed and best of luck.

SD Realtor

[xironman]

If you end up in Virginia and like the beach, go to the Outer Banks for a vacation, you won’t regret it. As long as you are close enough to drive there for a beach fix, you won’t miss the San Diego beaches much at all.

[sddreaming]

Juice – good for you! Take control of your life. Here’s a plug for Ann Arbor. I currently live in Ann Arbor. While I do miss the beaches and the weather that San Diego has to offer, Ann Arbor is a great place to raise a family. FWIW, it was ranked as the most educated city in the country. The schools are great. The college town atmosphere creates a vibrant culture. As someone already posted, Pfizer is shutting down its Ann Arbor facility. Pfizer employees will be relocating this summer so I expect housing here to decline this summer. The university offers world class education in many fields. Because of the poor economy, the state of Michigan is offering incentives for start-ups such as tax breaks. Wherever you go – best of luck.

[Anonymous]

Thanks to all of you for your kind posts! Please don’t get me wrong, I have a great deal of respect for those who are able to make it work here and perhaps some day we will return. Ironically, I did come up with a number of ways that I also could make it work here, but the alternatives right now are too attractive for me to pay that price.

On Ann Arbor, I recently read an article about that city that covered their attempts to become a ‘creative class’ town modeled after the popular book by a guy named….umm, Richard Florida or something like that. I’m going to visit a few places and I do plan to head to the Midwest as well and might just check the place out!

[kewp]

“We have a massive influx of poor, uneducated immigrants combined with huge demographic changes the likes of which this city and country haven’t seen in generations.”

Our country was built by poor, uneducated immigrants. European at the time, probably some in your family tree. I know they are in mine!

In SoCal, they fill a valuable role by taking the jobs all the over-educated white folk won’t do. Unless you really, really want to pick strawberries I can’t see what complaint you have with them.

Regardless, enjoy your new life wherever you decide to settle. I’ll suggest New Hampshire, you will be pretty safe from the Mexican Invasion there for at least a few decades!

[Anonymous]

I spend a couple summers in Ann Arbor many years ago when I was interning for Ford. Great city to be in the summer time, lots to do, and nearly the ideal size city in my opinion. Also a great place if you are a golfer, tons of public golf courses in Michigan. Unfortunately the winters are brutal, I don’t think I could handle living there full time.

[PerryChase]

I’m afraid that getting deeply involved in a church will cause you to build up even more resentment towards those you think are ruining your dreams of a happy life in San Diego.

From your other posts on immigration, Ireland and other matters it seems you are easily riled-up by what you perceive as wrongs. The truth is that there’s no right or wrong.

I think that if you want to find happiness and satisfaction you’d realize that no one is ruining your life. The world is fluid and ever changing. It up to you to adapt to it. If new immigrants can thrive in California, so can you. If you want a 3000sf house in a top school district in California, perhaps you should work a little harder or simply move out. Nobody is to blame for that.

[Anonymous]

Our country may have been built by poor, uneducated immigrants but that is irrelevant to today’s world. The population of the U.S. is large enough as it is, don’t need millions more.

You can scream racism all you want but nobody wants a bunch of poor immigrant families moving into their neighborhood, bringing a part of Tijuana with them. It is really a class issue, not a racial issue anyway. It is just cooincidence that the lower socioeconomic class in this country is heavily weighted towards blacks and hispanics.

I hate the argument that we need so many immigrants because they do the work the Americans won’t do. That just proves how far our country has fallen if that it truly the case.

In terms of agriculture, if we need to “import” workers to pick strawberries, then that is not an efficient business model to begin with. What is the benefit of a business to this country if it is only employing foreigners?? We should let those businesses fail. Everybody would be better off if we imported those products. How about we import more strawberries from Mexico??? We would be supporting essentially the same labor base anyway, and it would probably be cheaper!

[CardiffBaseball]

I remember a visit back to Ohio when the family had yet to move out here. One afternoon I got the oil changed, some scruffy white kids did it. Buzz to the car wash, white and black kids do my car. I motor over to Taco Bell, where there are black and white people waiting on me. Lastly I have some guys coming over to do some property beautification on my house to prep to sell and they were white folks.

My wife was born in Honduras and we always get along with hispanics quite easily, so this isn’t a knock on them because they are just wanting work. Rather it’s to slam the idiotic premise that “people just won’t do those jobs. Hell my sister cleans an office building once a week for like $20. She has 3 kids at home, and stays with them during the day, and this $20 helps fund extra activities or whatever.

The problem with San Diego (err California) is the wealthy business owner doesn’t want to pay for labor. I think people will work at Taco Bell if the wages represented some fraction of the cost of living. I am guessing the Taco Bell guy here in Encinitas makes a buck or so more than the guy in Ohio with the cost of living in Ohio being squat.

[Anonymous]

kewp, in the old days, folks were screened for disease. Now, they cross unfettered, and read last week’s article in the La La Times about Chagas disease (a South American disease) infecting the blood supply and killing folks. Read about leprosy in South Texas and tuberculosis in San Jose.

Nah, Mexico and South and Central America have inferior cultures, not bloodlines. That’s why they are messes, generally.

There’s nothing racist, here, just simple statement of fact that we have too many unassimilated immigrants. My mother came from Mexico and my paternal grandparents came from Italy, so I’m allowed to speak about recent immigrants.

Perry, are you daft, that there’s no right and wrong? I’ll go out on a limb: Wednesday, the terrorists who used two children to get past a checkpoint, then blew them up along with the car, that was wrong. Call me a church-going judgementalist/fundamentalist, I don’t care.

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