Paying Attention?

[The-Shoveler]

So this goes along with my theory that TPTB want it this way.

So is anyone surprised ? really ?

Michigan leaders in the fight against the foreclosure crisis reacted strongly Sunday to revelations that mortgage giant Fannie Mae appears to have been pushing banks to foreclose on homeowners rather than continue negotiating loan modifications.
The story broke in the Detroit Free Press, which reported it had been given some 2,300 internal records and memos from Fannie Mae. Those documents included indications that lenders should proceed to foreclosure sales rather than allow any time for modifications, and memos which indicate the company was threatening to charge a penalty to lenders who allowed foreclosures to wait too long before they were executed.
Particularly troubling was the fact that these memos came at the same time that Fannie Mae officials were testifying before Congress that they were doing everything in their power to prevent foreclosures.
“I am thoroughly disgusted by the actions of Fannie Mae,” said Ingham County Register of Deeds Curtis Hertel, who is currently suing Fannie Mae and other lenders arguing that they failed to pay Ingham county millions of dollars in title transfer taxes. “What these internal documents show is that while Fannie Mae was being bailed out by taxpayers they were systematically pushing for citizens to be foreclosed. The reason for this is even worse. Right now we as taxpayers pick up the cost of every foreclosure, because we pay Fannie Mae’s loss in the foreclosure process. In other words they actually get paid more for a foreclosure than for a reasonable modification.

[CA renter]

[quote=Nor-LA-SD-GUY2]So this goes along with my theory that TPTB want it this way.

So is anyone surprised ? really ?

Michigan leaders in the fight against the foreclosure crisis reacted strongly Sunday to revelations that mortgage giant Fannie Mae appears to have been pushing banks to foreclose on homeowners rather than continue negotiating loan modifications.
The story broke in the Detroit Free Press, which reported it had been given some 2,300 internal records and memos from Fannie Mae. Those documents included indications that lenders should proceed to foreclosure sales rather than allow any time for modifications, and memos which indicate the company was threatening to charge a penalty to lenders who allowed foreclosures to wait too long before they were executed.
Particularly troubling was the fact that these memos came at the same time that Fannie Mae officials were testifying before Congress that they were doing everything in their power to prevent foreclosures.
“I am thoroughly disgusted by the actions of Fannie Mae,” said Ingham County Register of Deeds Curtis Hertel, who is currently suing Fannie Mae and other lenders arguing that they failed to pay Ingham county millions of dollars in title transfer taxes. “What these internal documents show is that while Fannie Mae was being bailed out by taxpayers they were systematically pushing for citizens to be foreclosed. The reason for this is even worse. Right now we as taxpayers pick up the cost of every foreclosure, because we pay Fannie Mae’s loss in the foreclosure process. In other words they actually get paid more for a foreclosure than for a reasonable modification.[/quote]

If the GSEs/taxpayers are getting more money from foreclosures vs. “modifications,” then they should be foreclosing. Why do we feel the need to protect home debtors any more than renters? If renters fail to pay rent, are there any “eviction moratoriums” and “rent modifications” programs that reduce our rent to “whatever we can afford”?

If someone fails to pay a debt, and there is collateral backing that debt then the creditor has the right to take posession of that collateral, period. The fact that there is collateral backing these loans is the ONLY reason people were able to borrow as much as they did, and get the low rates that were offered to them; if not for the fact that they were collateralized, this debt would look very much like revolving (credit card) debt, with the same loan limits and interest rates as CC debt.

[CA renter]

[quote=Nor-LA-SD-GUY2]So this goes along with my theory that TPTB want it this way.

So is anyone surprised ? really ?

Michigan leaders in the fight against the foreclosure crisis reacted strongly Sunday to revelations that mortgage giant Fannie Mae appears to have been pushing banks to foreclose on homeowners rather than continue negotiating loan modifications.
The story broke in the Detroit Free Press, which reported it had been given some 2,300 internal records and memos from Fannie Mae. Those documents included indications that lenders should proceed to foreclosure sales rather than allow any time for modifications, and memos which indicate the company was threatening to charge a penalty to lenders who allowed foreclosures to wait too long before they were executed.
Particularly troubling was the fact that these memos came at the same time that Fannie Mae officials were testifying before Congress that they were doing everything in their power to prevent foreclosures.
“I am thoroughly disgusted by the actions of Fannie Mae,” said Ingham County Register of Deeds Curtis Hertel, who is currently suing Fannie Mae and other lenders arguing that they failed to pay Ingham county millions of dollars in title transfer taxes. “What these internal documents show is that while Fannie Mae was being bailed out by taxpayers they were systematically pushing for citizens to be foreclosed. The reason for this is even worse. Right now we as taxpayers pick up the cost of every foreclosure, because we pay Fannie Mae’s loss in the foreclosure process. In other words they actually get paid more for a foreclosure than for a reasonable modification.[/quote]

If the GSEs/taxpayers are getting more money from foreclosures vs. “modifications,” then they should be foreclosing. Why do we feel the need to protect home debtors any more than renters? If renters fail to pay rent, are there any “eviction moratoriums” and “rent modifications” programs that reduce our rent to “whatever we can afford”?

If someone fails to pay a debt, and there is collateral backing that debt then the creditor has the right to take posession of that collateral, period. The fact that there is collateral backing these loans is the ONLY reason people were able to borrow as much as they did, and get the low rates that were offered to them; if not for the fact that they were collateralized, this debt would look very much like revolving (credit card) debt, with the same loan limits and interest rates as CC debt.

[CA renter]

[quote=Nor-LA-SD-GUY2]So this goes along with my theory that TPTB want it this way.

So is anyone surprised ? really ?

Michigan leaders in the fight against the foreclosure crisis reacted strongly Sunday to revelations that mortgage giant Fannie Mae appears to have been pushing banks to foreclose on homeowners rather than continue negotiating loan modifications.
The story broke in the Detroit Free Press, which reported it had been given some 2,300 internal records and memos from Fannie Mae. Those documents included indications that lenders should proceed to foreclosure sales rather than allow any time for modifications, and memos which indicate the company was threatening to charge a penalty to lenders who allowed foreclosures to wait too long before they were executed.
Particularly troubling was the fact that these memos came at the same time that Fannie Mae officials were testifying before Congress that they were doing everything in their power to prevent foreclosures.
“I am thoroughly disgusted by the actions of Fannie Mae,” said Ingham County Register of Deeds Curtis Hertel, who is currently suing Fannie Mae and other lenders arguing that they failed to pay Ingham county millions of dollars in title transfer taxes. “What these internal documents show is that while Fannie Mae was being bailed out by taxpayers they were systematically pushing for citizens to be foreclosed. The reason for this is even worse. Right now we as taxpayers pick up the cost of every foreclosure, because we pay Fannie Mae’s loss in the foreclosure process. In other words they actually get paid more for a foreclosure than for a reasonable modification.[/quote]

If the GSEs/taxpayers are getting more money from foreclosures vs. “modifications,” then they should be foreclosing. Why do we feel the need to protect home debtors any more than renters? If renters fail to pay rent, are there any “eviction moratoriums” and “rent modifications” programs that reduce our rent to “whatever we can afford”?

If someone fails to pay a debt, and there is collateral backing that debt then the creditor has the right to take posession of that collateral, period. The fact that there is collateral backing these loans is the ONLY reason people were able to borrow as much as they did, and get the low rates that were offered to them; if not for the fact that they were collateralized, this debt would look very much like revolving (credit card) debt, with the same loan limits and interest rates as CC debt.

[CA renter]

[quote=Nor-LA-SD-GUY2]So this goes along with my theory that TPTB want it this way.

So is anyone surprised ? really ?

Michigan leaders in the fight against the foreclosure crisis reacted strongly Sunday to revelations that mortgage giant Fannie Mae appears to have been pushing banks to foreclose on homeowners rather than continue negotiating loan modifications.
The story broke in the Detroit Free Press, which reported it had been given some 2,300 internal records and memos from Fannie Mae. Those documents included indications that lenders should proceed to foreclosure sales rather than allow any time for modifications, and memos which indicate the company was threatening to charge a penalty to lenders who allowed foreclosures to wait too long before they were executed.
Particularly troubling was the fact that these memos came at the same time that Fannie Mae officials were testifying before Congress that they were doing everything in their power to prevent foreclosures.
“I am thoroughly disgusted by the actions of Fannie Mae,” said Ingham County Register of Deeds Curtis Hertel, who is currently suing Fannie Mae and other lenders arguing that they failed to pay Ingham county millions of dollars in title transfer taxes. “What these internal documents show is that while Fannie Mae was being bailed out by taxpayers they were systematically pushing for citizens to be foreclosed. The reason for this is even worse. Right now we as taxpayers pick up the cost of every foreclosure, because we pay Fannie Mae’s loss in the foreclosure process. In other words they actually get paid more for a foreclosure than for a reasonable modification.[/quote]

If the GSEs/taxpayers are getting more money from foreclosures vs. “modifications,” then they should be foreclosing. Why do we feel the need to protect home debtors any more than renters? If renters fail to pay rent, are there any “eviction moratoriums” and “rent modifications” programs that reduce our rent to “whatever we can afford”?

If someone fails to pay a debt, and there is collateral backing that debt then the creditor has the right to take posession of that collateral, period. The fact that there is collateral backing these loans is the ONLY reason people were able to borrow as much as they did, and get the low rates that were offered to them; if not for the fact that they were collateralized, this debt would look very much like revolving (credit card) debt, with the same loan limits and interest rates as CC debt.

[CA renter]

[quote=Nor-LA-SD-GUY2]So this goes along with my theory that TPTB want it this way.

So is anyone surprised ? really ?

Michigan leaders in the fight against the foreclosure crisis reacted strongly Sunday to revelations that mortgage giant Fannie Mae appears to have been pushing banks to foreclose on homeowners rather than continue negotiating loan modifications.
The story broke in the Detroit Free Press, which reported it had been given some 2,300 internal records and memos from Fannie Mae. Those documents included indications that lenders should proceed to foreclosure sales rather than allow any time for modifications, and memos which indicate the company was threatening to charge a penalty to lenders who allowed foreclosures to wait too long before they were executed.
Particularly troubling was the fact that these memos came at the same time that Fannie Mae officials were testifying before Congress that they were doing everything in their power to prevent foreclosures.
“I am thoroughly disgusted by the actions of Fannie Mae,” said Ingham County Register of Deeds Curtis Hertel, who is currently suing Fannie Mae and other lenders arguing that they failed to pay Ingham county millions of dollars in title transfer taxes. “What these internal documents show is that while Fannie Mae was being bailed out by taxpayers they were systematically pushing for citizens to be foreclosed. The reason for this is even worse. Right now we as taxpayers pick up the cost of every foreclosure, because we pay Fannie Mae’s loss in the foreclosure process. In other words they actually get paid more for a foreclosure than for a reasonable modification.[/quote]

If the GSEs/taxpayers are getting more money from foreclosures vs. “modifications,” then they should be foreclosing. Why do we feel the need to protect home debtors any more than renters? If renters fail to pay rent, are there any “eviction moratoriums” and “rent modifications” programs that reduce our rent to “whatever we can afford”?

If someone fails to pay a debt, and there is collateral backing that debt then the creditor has the right to take posession of that collateral, period. The fact that there is collateral backing these loans is the ONLY reason people were able to borrow as much as they did, and get the low rates that were offered to them; if not for the fact that they were collateralized, this debt would look very much like revolving (credit card) debt, with the same loan limits and interest rates as CC debt.

[The-Shoveler]

Yea, BUT We are not getting more money, we the tax payers are PAYING THEM the difference.
Where do you think the CEO gets 5 million a year ?

[The-Shoveler]

Yea, BUT We are not getting more money, we the tax payers are PAYING THEM the difference.
Where do you think the CEO gets 5 million a year ?

[The-Shoveler]

Yea, BUT We are not getting more money, we the tax payers are PAYING THEM the difference.
Where do you think the CEO gets 5 million a year ?

[The-Shoveler]

Yea, BUT We are not getting more money, we the tax payers are PAYING THEM the difference.
Where do you think the CEO gets 5 million a year ?

[The-Shoveler]

Yea, BUT We are not getting more money, we the tax payers are PAYING THEM the difference.
Where do you think the CEO gets 5 million a year ?

[CA renter]

[quote=Nor-LA-SD-GUY2]Yea, BUT We are not getting more money, we the tax payers are PAYING THEM the difference.
Where do you think the CEO gets 5 million a year ?[/quote]

Are we paying them *less* if we foreclose in a timely manner vs. what would have been lost if they allowed the deadbeats to stay in the house, allowing the property to further deteriorate? Prices are still going down; we will end up losing more money the longer we wait. If we had allowed everyone to foreclose in a timely manner, we would have saved more money and prevented more foreclosures — many people have stopped paying simply because nobody else is paying…moral hazard and all that.

[CA renter]

[quote=Nor-LA-SD-GUY2]Yea, BUT We are not getting more money, we the tax payers are PAYING THEM the difference.
Where do you think the CEO gets 5 million a year ?[/quote]

Are we paying them *less* if we foreclose in a timely manner vs. what would have been lost if they allowed the deadbeats to stay in the house, allowing the property to further deteriorate? Prices are still going down; we will end up losing more money the longer we wait. If we had allowed everyone to foreclose in a timely manner, we would have saved more money and prevented more foreclosures — many people have stopped paying simply because nobody else is paying…moral hazard and all that.

[CA renter]

[quote=Nor-LA-SD-GUY2]Yea, BUT We are not getting more money, we the tax payers are PAYING THEM the difference.
Where do you think the CEO gets 5 million a year ?[/quote]

Are we paying them *less* if we foreclose in a timely manner vs. what would have been lost if they allowed the deadbeats to stay in the house, allowing the property to further deteriorate? Prices are still going down; we will end up losing more money the longer we wait. If we had allowed everyone to foreclose in a timely manner, we would have saved more money and prevented more foreclosures — many people have stopped paying simply because nobody else is paying…moral hazard and all that.

[CA renter]

[quote=Nor-LA-SD-GUY2]Yea, BUT We are not getting more money, we the tax payers are PAYING THEM the difference.
Where do you think the CEO gets 5 million a year ?[/quote]

Are we paying them *less* if we foreclose in a timely manner vs. what would have been lost if they allowed the deadbeats to stay in the house, allowing the property to further deteriorate? Prices are still going down; we will end up losing more money the longer we wait. If we had allowed everyone to foreclose in a timely manner, we would have saved more money and prevented more foreclosures — many people have stopped paying simply because nobody else is paying…moral hazard and all that.

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