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August 3, 2011 at 9:50 AM #18989August 3, 2011 at 12:51 PM #714682
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GuestWell, the economy is growing but growth is anemic.
The bailouts were successful in arresting the downward slide. But the bailouts and stimulus were essentially transfer payment and didn’t create additional jobs.
The stimulus did help states and localities avoid more layoffs.
We need to create jobs. Corporations are sitting on $2 trillion but they are not investing for lack of demand for their products. It’s obvious that businesses are not creating jobs, not for lack of capital, but for lack of demand.
There is no economic clarity because there is no consensus on how to create jobs immediately.
August 3, 2011 at 12:51 PM #714773GuestWell, the economy is growing but growth is anemic.
The bailouts were successful in arresting the downward slide. But the bailouts and stimulus were essentially transfer payment and didn’t create additional jobs.
The stimulus did help states and localities avoid more layoffs.
We need to create jobs. Corporations are sitting on $2 trillion but they are not investing for lack of demand for their products. It’s obvious that businesses are not creating jobs, not for lack of capital, but for lack of demand.
There is no economic clarity because there is no consensus on how to create jobs immediately.
August 3, 2011 at 12:51 PM #715376GuestWell, the economy is growing but growth is anemic.
The bailouts were successful in arresting the downward slide. But the bailouts and stimulus were essentially transfer payment and didn’t create additional jobs.
The stimulus did help states and localities avoid more layoffs.
We need to create jobs. Corporations are sitting on $2 trillion but they are not investing for lack of demand for their products. It’s obvious that businesses are not creating jobs, not for lack of capital, but for lack of demand.
There is no economic clarity because there is no consensus on how to create jobs immediately.
August 3, 2011 at 12:51 PM #715530GuestWell, the economy is growing but growth is anemic.
The bailouts were successful in arresting the downward slide. But the bailouts and stimulus were essentially transfer payment and didn’t create additional jobs.
The stimulus did help states and localities avoid more layoffs.
We need to create jobs. Corporations are sitting on $2 trillion but they are not investing for lack of demand for their products. It’s obvious that businesses are not creating jobs, not for lack of capital, but for lack of demand.
There is no economic clarity because there is no consensus on how to create jobs immediately.
August 3, 2011 at 12:51 PM #715892GuestWell, the economy is growing but growth is anemic.
The bailouts were successful in arresting the downward slide. But the bailouts and stimulus were essentially transfer payment and didn’t create additional jobs.
The stimulus did help states and localities avoid more layoffs.
We need to create jobs. Corporations are sitting on $2 trillion but they are not investing for lack of demand for their products. It’s obvious that businesses are not creating jobs, not for lack of capital, but for lack of demand.
There is no economic clarity because there is no consensus on how to create jobs immediately.
August 3, 2011 at 1:36 PM #714687The-Shoveler
ParticipantTwo things, energy, housing
First,
Something no one wants to hear but it’s the truth.
It’s So Simple,
Housing is 20% of the economy in most locals (not all but most)
Agents, escrow, insurance, finance , landscape, builders,… etc the list goes on.YOU WILL NEVER HAVE AN ECONOMIC RECOVERY UNTIL THE MAJORITY OF UNDERWATER HOME OWNERS ARE NO LONGER UNDER WATER,
One way or the other..Second:
It costs about 50 cents a Gallon to produce ethanol in brazil , but we won’t let them import it here, it would kill the corn ethanol industry, can’t have that.Third, Let me put my tin foil hat on,
This is the way they want it, The PTB think that you cannot grow forever, and want us to seek a stable state economy.OK the last one is just my speculation.
August 3, 2011 at 1:36 PM #714778ParticipantTwo things, energy, housing
First,
Something no one wants to hear but it’s the truth.
It’s So Simple,
Housing is 20% of the economy in most locals (not all but most)
Agents, escrow, insurance, finance , landscape, builders,… etc the list goes on.YOU WILL NEVER HAVE AN ECONOMIC RECOVERY UNTIL THE MAJORITY OF UNDERWATER HOME OWNERS ARE NO LONGER UNDER WATER,
One way or the other..Second:
It costs about 50 cents a Gallon to produce ethanol in brazil , but we won’t let them import it here, it would kill the corn ethanol industry, can’t have that.Third, Let me put my tin foil hat on,
This is the way they want it, The PTB think that you cannot grow forever, and want us to seek a stable state economy.OK the last one is just my speculation.
August 3, 2011 at 1:36 PM #715381ParticipantTwo things, energy, housing
First,
Something no one wants to hear but it’s the truth.
It’s So Simple,
Housing is 20% of the economy in most locals (not all but most)
Agents, escrow, insurance, finance , landscape, builders,… etc the list goes on.YOU WILL NEVER HAVE AN ECONOMIC RECOVERY UNTIL THE MAJORITY OF UNDERWATER HOME OWNERS ARE NO LONGER UNDER WATER,
One way or the other..Second:
It costs about 50 cents a Gallon to produce ethanol in brazil , but we won’t let them import it here, it would kill the corn ethanol industry, can’t have that.Third, Let me put my tin foil hat on,
This is the way they want it, The PTB think that you cannot grow forever, and want us to seek a stable state economy.OK the last one is just my speculation.
August 3, 2011 at 1:36 PM #715535ParticipantTwo things, energy, housing
First,
Something no one wants to hear but it’s the truth.
It’s So Simple,
Housing is 20% of the economy in most locals (not all but most)
Agents, escrow, insurance, finance , landscape, builders,… etc the list goes on.YOU WILL NEVER HAVE AN ECONOMIC RECOVERY UNTIL THE MAJORITY OF UNDERWATER HOME OWNERS ARE NO LONGER UNDER WATER,
One way or the other..Second:
It costs about 50 cents a Gallon to produce ethanol in brazil , but we won’t let them import it here, it would kill the corn ethanol industry, can’t have that.Third, Let me put my tin foil hat on,
This is the way they want it, The PTB think that you cannot grow forever, and want us to seek a stable state economy.OK the last one is just my speculation.
August 3, 2011 at 1:36 PM #715897ParticipantTwo things, energy, housing
First,
Something no one wants to hear but it’s the truth.
It’s So Simple,
Housing is 20% of the economy in most locals (not all but most)
Agents, escrow, insurance, finance , landscape, builders,… etc the list goes on.YOU WILL NEVER HAVE AN ECONOMIC RECOVERY UNTIL THE MAJORITY OF UNDERWATER HOME OWNERS ARE NO LONGER UNDER WATER,
One way or the other..Second:
It costs about 50 cents a Gallon to produce ethanol in brazil , but we won’t let them import it here, it would kill the corn ethanol industry, can’t have that.Third, Let me put my tin foil hat on,
This is the way they want it, The PTB think that you cannot grow forever, and want us to seek a stable state economy.OK the last one is just my speculation.
August 3, 2011 at 2:03 PM #714697GuestNor-LA-SD-GUY2, well it depends what you mean by recovery.
Recovery meaning growth? Well, we already have recovery.
Recovery back to the peak? You can wait a long time.
[quote=Nor-LA-SD-GUY2]
Third, Let me put my tin foil hat on,
This is the way they want it, The PTB think that you cannot grow forever, and want us to seek a stable state economy.OK the last one is just my speculation.[/quote]
I’m a little confused about the third point.
As far as I can see, TPTB have been working tirelessly to put a floor on housing prices and stabilize the market. They have come up with all kinds of schemes to make it easy and encourage people to buy houses.
August 3, 2011 at 2:03 PM #714788GuestNor-LA-SD-GUY2, well it depends what you mean by recovery.
Recovery meaning growth? Well, we already have recovery.
Recovery back to the peak? You can wait a long time.
[quote=Nor-LA-SD-GUY2]
Third, Let me put my tin foil hat on,
This is the way they want it, The PTB think that you cannot grow forever, and want us to seek a stable state economy.OK the last one is just my speculation.[/quote]
I’m a little confused about the third point.
As far as I can see, TPTB have been working tirelessly to put a floor on housing prices and stabilize the market. They have come up with all kinds of schemes to make it easy and encourage people to buy houses.
August 3, 2011 at 2:03 PM #715391GuestNor-LA-SD-GUY2, well it depends what you mean by recovery.
Recovery meaning growth? Well, we already have recovery.
Recovery back to the peak? You can wait a long time.
[quote=Nor-LA-SD-GUY2]
Third, Let me put my tin foil hat on,
This is the way they want it, The PTB think that you cannot grow forever, and want us to seek a stable state economy.OK the last one is just my speculation.[/quote]
I’m a little confused about the third point.
As far as I can see, TPTB have been working tirelessly to put a floor on housing prices and stabilize the market. They have come up with all kinds of schemes to make it easy and encourage people to buy houses.
August 3, 2011 at 2:03 PM #715545GuestNor-LA-SD-GUY2, well it depends what you mean by recovery.
Recovery meaning growth? Well, we already have recovery.
Recovery back to the peak? You can wait a long time.
[quote=Nor-LA-SD-GUY2]
Third, Let me put my tin foil hat on,
This is the way they want it, The PTB think that you cannot grow forever, and want us to seek a stable state economy.OK the last one is just my speculation.[/quote]
I’m a little confused about the third point.
As far as I can see, TPTB have been working tirelessly to put a floor on housing prices and stabilize the market. They have come up with all kinds of schemes to make it easy and encourage people to buy houses.
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