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June 3, 2011 at 1:11 AM #702138June 3, 2011 at 8:10 AM #700968ScarlettParticipant
[quote=masayako]Let me guess… You are Asian?
[quote=ninaprincess]I have been in the US half of my life but one thing I still don’t understand it that many American parents kick their children out of the house. Initially I heard people talking about it and I thought they were joking. I brought this up because I just read an article in yahoo about a 23 yr old homeless girl who was kicked out of the parents’ house.
My parents hated that we moved out of the house. They won’t take my money when I stayed with them. My mom would do wash my clothes and clean my room eventhough I told her not too. This is the same case for all of my cousins.[/quote][/quote]
This is true of other nationalities as well. I know some in Eastern Europe that are exactly like that and are totally shocked at this “American way”….:)
June 3, 2011 at 8:10 AM #701066ScarlettParticipant[quote=masayako]Let me guess… You are Asian?
[quote=ninaprincess]I have been in the US half of my life but one thing I still don’t understand it that many American parents kick their children out of the house. Initially I heard people talking about it and I thought they were joking. I brought this up because I just read an article in yahoo about a 23 yr old homeless girl who was kicked out of the parents’ house.
My parents hated that we moved out of the house. They won’t take my money when I stayed with them. My mom would do wash my clothes and clean my room eventhough I told her not too. This is the same case for all of my cousins.[/quote][/quote]
This is true of other nationalities as well. I know some in Eastern Europe that are exactly like that and are totally shocked at this “American way”….:)
June 3, 2011 at 8:10 AM #701659ScarlettParticipant[quote=masayako]Let me guess… You are Asian?
[quote=ninaprincess]I have been in the US half of my life but one thing I still don’t understand it that many American parents kick their children out of the house. Initially I heard people talking about it and I thought they were joking. I brought this up because I just read an article in yahoo about a 23 yr old homeless girl who was kicked out of the parents’ house.
My parents hated that we moved out of the house. They won’t take my money when I stayed with them. My mom would do wash my clothes and clean my room eventhough I told her not too. This is the same case for all of my cousins.[/quote][/quote]
This is true of other nationalities as well. I know some in Eastern Europe that are exactly like that and are totally shocked at this “American way”….:)
June 3, 2011 at 8:10 AM #701807ScarlettParticipant[quote=masayako]Let me guess… You are Asian?
[quote=ninaprincess]I have been in the US half of my life but one thing I still don’t understand it that many American parents kick their children out of the house. Initially I heard people talking about it and I thought they were joking. I brought this up because I just read an article in yahoo about a 23 yr old homeless girl who was kicked out of the parents’ house.
My parents hated that we moved out of the house. They won’t take my money when I stayed with them. My mom would do wash my clothes and clean my room eventhough I told her not too. This is the same case for all of my cousins.[/quote][/quote]
This is true of other nationalities as well. I know some in Eastern Europe that are exactly like that and are totally shocked at this “American way”….:)
June 3, 2011 at 8:10 AM #702170ScarlettParticipant[quote=masayako]Let me guess… You are Asian?
[quote=ninaprincess]I have been in the US half of my life but one thing I still don’t understand it that many American parents kick their children out of the house. Initially I heard people talking about it and I thought they were joking. I brought this up because I just read an article in yahoo about a 23 yr old homeless girl who was kicked out of the parents’ house.
My parents hated that we moved out of the house. They won’t take my money when I stayed with them. My mom would do wash my clothes and clean my room eventhough I told her not too. This is the same case for all of my cousins.[/quote][/quote]
This is true of other nationalities as well. I know some in Eastern Europe that are exactly like that and are totally shocked at this “American way”….:)
June 3, 2011 at 10:17 AM #700998NotCrankyParticipantWho taught these “middle class” and upper middle class kids, that everything but professional work is below them? It causes a catch-22. They don’t want to follow the indoor cubicle nerd job and are losers to themselves, their families and all the castes above them if they take any non-degree alternative, some of which people actually can or could learn to thrive with when the judgemental pecking order memes are taken out. Immigrants and even some natives do it all the time. What college educated white collar professional does not look down on their mechanic or handyman or even a police officer or nurse? What college educated white collar mom and dad does not do the same? How do you judge your kids leanings? How does the education system and society at large judge these things? We are always supposed to go forward through the generations never back.
I have a boy who goes outside much less than the his brothers. He is the least personable. He read at middle school to high school level in the first weeks of the second grade. His brothers are antsy and physical and also very intelligent. They are very curious, read a lot and are doing better with second language acquistion(which is also not much valued). Still, status quot middle class careers might not come easy to them. Too me the antsy and physical and other positive traits are characteristics that are as important as the intelligence. I won’t let them waste their lives and bodies putting undue emphasis on sports, but their leanings toward being physical may get them some direction other than a cliche middle class example of “success”. I will also tell them the downside to being locked into a demanding career vs. responsibly living without one.
People who can’t see that middle class kids and upper middle class kids get disadvantaged by these preconditions and prejudices are not looking. It could have been your “loser” brother or sister.
June 3, 2011 at 10:17 AM #701096NotCrankyParticipantWho taught these “middle class” and upper middle class kids, that everything but professional work is below them? It causes a catch-22. They don’t want to follow the indoor cubicle nerd job and are losers to themselves, their families and all the castes above them if they take any non-degree alternative, some of which people actually can or could learn to thrive with when the judgemental pecking order memes are taken out. Immigrants and even some natives do it all the time. What college educated white collar professional does not look down on their mechanic or handyman or even a police officer or nurse? What college educated white collar mom and dad does not do the same? How do you judge your kids leanings? How does the education system and society at large judge these things? We are always supposed to go forward through the generations never back.
I have a boy who goes outside much less than the his brothers. He is the least personable. He read at middle school to high school level in the first weeks of the second grade. His brothers are antsy and physical and also very intelligent. They are very curious, read a lot and are doing better with second language acquistion(which is also not much valued). Still, status quot middle class careers might not come easy to them. Too me the antsy and physical and other positive traits are characteristics that are as important as the intelligence. I won’t let them waste their lives and bodies putting undue emphasis on sports, but their leanings toward being physical may get them some direction other than a cliche middle class example of “success”. I will also tell them the downside to being locked into a demanding career vs. responsibly living without one.
People who can’t see that middle class kids and upper middle class kids get disadvantaged by these preconditions and prejudices are not looking. It could have been your “loser” brother or sister.
June 3, 2011 at 10:17 AM #701689NotCrankyParticipantWho taught these “middle class” and upper middle class kids, that everything but professional work is below them? It causes a catch-22. They don’t want to follow the indoor cubicle nerd job and are losers to themselves, their families and all the castes above them if they take any non-degree alternative, some of which people actually can or could learn to thrive with when the judgemental pecking order memes are taken out. Immigrants and even some natives do it all the time. What college educated white collar professional does not look down on their mechanic or handyman or even a police officer or nurse? What college educated white collar mom and dad does not do the same? How do you judge your kids leanings? How does the education system and society at large judge these things? We are always supposed to go forward through the generations never back.
I have a boy who goes outside much less than the his brothers. He is the least personable. He read at middle school to high school level in the first weeks of the second grade. His brothers are antsy and physical and also very intelligent. They are very curious, read a lot and are doing better with second language acquistion(which is also not much valued). Still, status quot middle class careers might not come easy to them. Too me the antsy and physical and other positive traits are characteristics that are as important as the intelligence. I won’t let them waste their lives and bodies putting undue emphasis on sports, but their leanings toward being physical may get them some direction other than a cliche middle class example of “success”. I will also tell them the downside to being locked into a demanding career vs. responsibly living without one.
People who can’t see that middle class kids and upper middle class kids get disadvantaged by these preconditions and prejudices are not looking. It could have been your “loser” brother or sister.
June 3, 2011 at 10:17 AM #701838NotCrankyParticipantWho taught these “middle class” and upper middle class kids, that everything but professional work is below them? It causes a catch-22. They don’t want to follow the indoor cubicle nerd job and are losers to themselves, their families and all the castes above them if they take any non-degree alternative, some of which people actually can or could learn to thrive with when the judgemental pecking order memes are taken out. Immigrants and even some natives do it all the time. What college educated white collar professional does not look down on their mechanic or handyman or even a police officer or nurse? What college educated white collar mom and dad does not do the same? How do you judge your kids leanings? How does the education system and society at large judge these things? We are always supposed to go forward through the generations never back.
I have a boy who goes outside much less than the his brothers. He is the least personable. He read at middle school to high school level in the first weeks of the second grade. His brothers are antsy and physical and also very intelligent. They are very curious, read a lot and are doing better with second language acquistion(which is also not much valued). Still, status quot middle class careers might not come easy to them. Too me the antsy and physical and other positive traits are characteristics that are as important as the intelligence. I won’t let them waste their lives and bodies putting undue emphasis on sports, but their leanings toward being physical may get them some direction other than a cliche middle class example of “success”. I will also tell them the downside to being locked into a demanding career vs. responsibly living without one.
People who can’t see that middle class kids and upper middle class kids get disadvantaged by these preconditions and prejudices are not looking. It could have been your “loser” brother or sister.
June 3, 2011 at 10:17 AM #702200NotCrankyParticipantWho taught these “middle class” and upper middle class kids, that everything but professional work is below them? It causes a catch-22. They don’t want to follow the indoor cubicle nerd job and are losers to themselves, their families and all the castes above them if they take any non-degree alternative, some of which people actually can or could learn to thrive with when the judgemental pecking order memes are taken out. Immigrants and even some natives do it all the time. What college educated white collar professional does not look down on their mechanic or handyman or even a police officer or nurse? What college educated white collar mom and dad does not do the same? How do you judge your kids leanings? How does the education system and society at large judge these things? We are always supposed to go forward through the generations never back.
I have a boy who goes outside much less than the his brothers. He is the least personable. He read at middle school to high school level in the first weeks of the second grade. His brothers are antsy and physical and also very intelligent. They are very curious, read a lot and are doing better with second language acquistion(which is also not much valued). Still, status quot middle class careers might not come easy to them. Too me the antsy and physical and other positive traits are characteristics that are as important as the intelligence. I won’t let them waste their lives and bodies putting undue emphasis on sports, but their leanings toward being physical may get them some direction other than a cliche middle class example of “success”. I will also tell them the downside to being locked into a demanding career vs. responsibly living without one.
People who can’t see that middle class kids and upper middle class kids get disadvantaged by these preconditions and prejudices are not looking. It could have been your “loser” brother or sister.
June 3, 2011 at 11:50 AM #701018scaredyclassicParticipantYes.
But
if you ask 100 lawyers whether they’d want their kids to be lawyers, I bet 78 would say eff no.
June 3, 2011 at 11:50 AM #701116scaredyclassicParticipantYes.
But
if you ask 100 lawyers whether they’d want their kids to be lawyers, I bet 78 would say eff no.
June 3, 2011 at 11:50 AM #701709scaredyclassicParticipantYes.
But
if you ask 100 lawyers whether they’d want their kids to be lawyers, I bet 78 would say eff no.
June 3, 2011 at 11:50 AM #701858scaredyclassicParticipantYes.
But
if you ask 100 lawyers whether they’d want their kids to be lawyers, I bet 78 would say eff no.
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