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September 25, 2007 at 11:35 PM #85931September 25, 2007 at 11:41 PM #85932DukehornParticipant
Errr, timeout…
Who’s doing 8th grade algebra in 5th grade? The Santee elementary schools? So you’re suggesting that the “gifted” kids in Santee are going to be doing calculus by 9th grade? I’m going to have to roll my eyes right there. Don’t overstate your case, it ruins everything else you have to say.
And in terms of “impressive” school districts, it’s those high schools that churn out 5+ National Merit Scholars every year and send a slew of students off to Stanford and the Ivy Leagues. Santee isn’t in that league, and being 70% (as someone said earlier) isn’t going to attract people (and probably won’t scare them away either).
PS I think what confused people with the 10 minutes to La Jolla argument is that you talk about enjoying the beach in LaJolla but then pick a non-beach boundary to determine time and distance. Bad arguing technique…
September 25, 2007 at 11:43 PM #85935little ladyParticipantI am just repeating what my son’s 5th grade teacher said to all the parents at open house. If you have children and done their homework with them you will find in no time at all you will not be able to help them. Every good school system is giving bits of algebra this early. Not every kid gets it though, of course.
“PS I think what confused people with the 10 minutes to La Jolla argument is that you talk about enjoying the beach in LaJolla but then pick a non-beach boundary to determine time and distance. Bad arguing technique”
For sure, but my point was it’s really not that far.
September 25, 2007 at 11:43 PM #85936sdrealtorParticipantDoes anybody sleep around here?
September 25, 2007 at 11:46 PM #85937little ladyParticipant“So you’re suggesting that the “gifted” kids in Santee are going to be doing calculus by 9th grade? ”
Not mine anyway, they take honors algebra, in the 9th grade. Unless of course they are a 10 year old college student……..
September 25, 2007 at 11:47 PM #85939little ladyParticipant“Does anybody sleep around here?”
MY HUSBAND! He is taking an online class, took a 5 minute break said he couldn’t sit here that long…then started snoring……..lol
September 25, 2007 at 11:47 PM #85940little ladyParticipant“Does anybody sleep around here?”
MY HUSBAND! He is taking an online class, took a 5 minute break said he couldn’t sit here that long…then started snoring……..lol
September 26, 2007 at 12:28 AM #85941little ladyParticipant“And in terms of “impressive” school districts, it’s those high schools that churn out 5+ National Merit Scholars every year and send a slew of students off to Stanford and the Ivy Leagues. Santee isn’t in that league, and being 70% (as someone said earlier) isn’t going to attract people (and probably won’t scare them away either).”
You know to tell you the truth I personally don’t really care.(Though my realestate agent claims people try to move close to Westhills.) I know I went to school out here, it was a great it experience for me. I felt safe. It was something I wanted my kids to know. I never looked at scores, except to see what everyone else was talking about. So I have gotten to understand what it is everyone else is looking for. I come on here and people keep making statements that I know they they don’t know what they are talking about. So I tried to enlighten. Don’t think it worked though, oh well.
As for National Merit Scholars, I it is not as impressive, but that was not what I was saying anyway.
My niece graduated with honors and a 4.5 g.p.a. from Santana (also gifted). I think she’s gonna do alright…..
(I am always telling her how smart she is and she keeps telling me how many kids are smarter than her, she’s very humble, and gorgeous)p.s. before anyone starts freaking out, you get an extra point for passing with a “C” or better in honors classes.
5=A, 4=B, 3=c, and a D is a D and so forth..September 26, 2007 at 4:27 AM #85943CoronitaParticipantFLU
I can tell a couple of things from your post;
#1 YOU DO NOT HAVE CHILDREN
#2 you think schools are the same as when you were a kidThe schools we went to are not the same. Every year they get be
#1 wrong, #2 wrong.
No offense. You're really walking into this one. Some friendly advice, don't take things too personally here. I'm not going to sit and slash and burn Santee.
A couple of things
1) I'm aware of the SAT 9 test/ In fact, I sent a few sample SAT 9 tests to my cousin in china. She (entering junior high). It's still basic basic math skills (everything before pre-calc) which no offense by world standards is a joke. Look, I'm not trying to stir up anything here. But let's face it. Some of these standard tests at least in math/science, and in general math/science pre-college here in the U.S. pale in comparison to world standards. Things aren't that much different. Math is still math.
2) Your statement of #2 is wrong. Actually, I think don't think all public schools are the same. But, you reach a point when the margin of error is with the kid itself. My preference would be to raise a kid in a district when the average family is a white collar professional, because kids influence other kids. Call me an intellectual snob, but I won't send my kids to a school district composed of a lot of blue collar families. Also, I am not for attending private schools. Public schools teach a lot for kids, especially how to deal with different situations. I can't comment on the demographics of the education background of folks living in Santee. BUT, I definitely won't be sending my kids to an area where this happened. That's not something I would consider "normal learning experience":
http://www.keystosaferschools.com/Santee_High_California_Shooting03501.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Santana_High_School
Although warped thinking could say that if you believe this was truely a random event, the probability of something like this happening in the same school would be lower then elsewhere… Except, more recently
http://weblog.signonsandiego.com/news/breaking/2007/09/three_santee_schools_in_lockdo.html
No offense, I wouldn't want to take the following chance..Just like I won't fly Taiwan's China Airlines (Statistically, they broken all probability of random air disaster to the point that you wonder if the problem is with the airline itelf)
3) Your assumption about #1 is also wrong. I do have a kid. Yawn, I really need to learn how to get back to sleep after my kid wakes me up in the middle of the night.
4)It's interesting you equated "involved parents" to home schooling. This wasn't my understanding of involved parents meant. Involved parents in my mind meant being parents that had your kids attend public school, but supplemented the deficiencies in school. There will be a lot, regardless of which district you belong to.
5) Lastly, I can't help but help: Distance(in miles)/Time(hrs) = MPH
Or alternatively: Distance(in miles) *60 / Time (minutes) = MPH
"Showing your work": 15 miles in 10 minutes would mean traveling 90mph across 52.If you use 14.1 miles as you stated to cross 52, "10 minutes" would mean you're traveling 85mph across 52. The mathematical "fact" can't be disputed.
6) If you moved/bought in Santee. Don't let what other people say here make you feel bad. If you're happy with your decision, that's all that really matters. People say lots of crap about where I live on this board.Who cares?
September 26, 2007 at 7:46 AM #85945little ladyParticipantNo offense but, you are wrong. What I meant to say is that the wording used in today’s test are not the same “Dick and Jane” type words used in yesterdays testing. You have to have better comprehension. They are infact more difficult. Part of what I was refering to was the RAVEN test. That test was invented in England I believe.
If you have a kid, they aren’t very old. Apples don’t fall very far from the tree, and I can’t always help my kids with their homework in math. My son’s teacher said if he didn’t have the book, he couldn’t either. Because you just can’t remember that far back/ everything. Also, It is much more complicated today, than it was in when you or I was in school.
“4)It’s interesting you equated “involved parents” to home schooling. This wasn’t my understanding of involved parents meant. Involved parents in my mind meant being parents that had your kids attend public school, but supplemented the deficiencies in school. There will be a lot, regardless of which district you belong to. ”
I never mentioned that, that is NOT what I meant.
I was just saying, some are born that way, but your kid will do well if you make sure you give them self esteem and basic skills.
“Showing your work”: 15 miles in 10 minutes would mean traveling 90mph across 52.If you use 14.1 miles as you stated to cross 52, “10 minutes” would mean you’re traveling 85mph across 52. The mathematical “fact” can’t be disputed.”
Okay, so I speed. I got these damn genius’ I gotta get to a private school in La Jolla, in traffic, if I don’t it’s probably gonna be a 2hr commute down that highway!(Just kidding don’t freak.)
“6) If you moved/bought in Santee. Don’t let what other people say here make you feel bad. If you’re happy with your decision, that’s all that really matters. People say lots of crap about where I live on this board.Who cares?”
I don’t, no one has change my mind. I know that to me it’s the best deal in S.D.. I have a problem with the people who were making the untrue statements. I think that they were just having fun trying to make me mad, now. Juvenile.
As for the shooting,( I knew someone would bring that up)all I can say is he was not a product of the Santee School system.. He was from a different state, his problems started long before he got there…poor kid. That has got nothing to do with the learning evironment, happened at Virginia Tech, it happens at Mc Donalds, on the freeway, at work.
September 26, 2007 at 8:09 AM #85947Ex-SDParticipantAs Peter Boyle used to say in the sitcom, “Everybody Loves Raymond” :
*Holy Crap!
…….and……..
*Bap, Bap, Bap, Bap, Bap! (referring to his wife’s, non-stop blabbing)
September 26, 2007 at 8:10 AM #85948CoronitaParticipantLook little lady, with all due respect, I don't think I want to entertain this thread forward because we are getting really off topic here and I really don't want to use up anymore of Rich T's bandwidth/storage to go off a tangent here. You obviously have made up your mind on Santee. Good for you.
But, with all due respect,
If you have a kid, they aren't very old. Apples don't fall very far from the tree, and I can't always help my kids with their homework in math. My son's teacher said if he didn't have the book, he couldn't either. Because you just can't remember that far back/ everything. Also, It is much more complicated today, than it was in when you or I was in school.
Sorry, unless your kids here are doing calculus or even pre-calc, I can't relate one "can't remember" basic math that one tends to use on a regular basis. Math is math is math. Math hasn't changed. Same rules, same content, same questions. Trig is still trig, geometry is still geometry, algebra is still the same, and calculus is calculus. Differential eq, are just that, and derivatives haven't changed. The only thing that has changed is the teaching method. Considering I frequently run into cashiers that can't compute 10% off when the registers are down, any change in public education system for math would be good. I don't understand why this is so hard to understand. Ask any person with techie background, and they'll tell you same problem, different details.
As far as your genius kids, if you can't solve the rate X time = distance question, ask them to solve it for you. They should be capable of doing all of the below.
If a person travels 15 miles in 1750 secs, how fast is the person going in mph?
If a person swims 15 laps in 14 minutes, how many laps in 23 minutes?
If a person can make 2 pizzas per 15 minutes, how long will it take for him/her to make 21 pizzas?
If Joe Pimp's employee can turn 4 tricks in 1 hour, and each trick is $125, how much does one of Joe's pimp's employee make in 4 hours.
If 1 gram of crack costs $442 how much would 1.5 grams of crack cost.
Don't need to post answers here, because I already know the answers π
Also, if you think the Santee schools are so great, why are you shuttling them to La Jolla? I missed that.
September 26, 2007 at 8:30 AM #85950little ladyParticipantEMOTIONAL, must have struck a nerve…
“Also, if you think the Santee schools are so great, why are you shuttling them to La Jolla? I missed that. ”
hmmmmmmmm….thought you were a genius?
Anyway, don’t answer no one asked you to…….
Gotta run PTSA responsibilities……nuff said, ttfn
September 26, 2007 at 8:41 AM #85951patientlywaitingParticipantLife is sooooo like high school but with higher stakes.
Who cares about studying… I’d rather be goodlooking and popular with a trust fund!
September 26, 2007 at 8:55 AM #85953lendingbubblecontinuesParticipant“If you have a kid, they aren’t very old. Apples don’t fall very far from the tree, and I can’t always help my kids with their homework in math.”
Based upon what I have read, I’d say you might want to consider getting the little prodigy an English tutor, too. π
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