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May 7, 2008 at 2:42 PM #200809May 7, 2008 at 2:51 PM #200696anParticipant
She brought up the race issue again and again
How is race not an issue. It always was and still is. 90% of black voters vote for Obama. Just think about it. She has about 60% of the white votes on average. So in states where there are a large % of black voters, he wins, plain and simple.She engaged in negative attacks
That’s the nature of the beast. Everybody does it, even Obama.she refuses to concede and divides the party until the very bitter end, risking a McCain victory in November
You’re giving her way too much credit. Obama can’t win over the blue collar, Reagan democrats. He tried many times but still not successful. Those are the voters in swing states and they are probably the majority of the 50+% that will not vote for Obama.May 7, 2008 at 2:51 PM #200738anParticipantShe brought up the race issue again and again
How is race not an issue. It always was and still is. 90% of black voters vote for Obama. Just think about it. She has about 60% of the white votes on average. So in states where there are a large % of black voters, he wins, plain and simple.She engaged in negative attacks
That’s the nature of the beast. Everybody does it, even Obama.she refuses to concede and divides the party until the very bitter end, risking a McCain victory in November
You’re giving her way too much credit. Obama can’t win over the blue collar, Reagan democrats. He tried many times but still not successful. Those are the voters in swing states and they are probably the majority of the 50+% that will not vote for Obama.May 7, 2008 at 2:51 PM #200764anParticipantShe brought up the race issue again and again
How is race not an issue. It always was and still is. 90% of black voters vote for Obama. Just think about it. She has about 60% of the white votes on average. So in states where there are a large % of black voters, he wins, plain and simple.She engaged in negative attacks
That’s the nature of the beast. Everybody does it, even Obama.she refuses to concede and divides the party until the very bitter end, risking a McCain victory in November
You’re giving her way too much credit. Obama can’t win over the blue collar, Reagan democrats. He tried many times but still not successful. Those are the voters in swing states and they are probably the majority of the 50+% that will not vote for Obama.May 7, 2008 at 2:51 PM #200791anParticipantShe brought up the race issue again and again
How is race not an issue. It always was and still is. 90% of black voters vote for Obama. Just think about it. She has about 60% of the white votes on average. So in states where there are a large % of black voters, he wins, plain and simple.She engaged in negative attacks
That’s the nature of the beast. Everybody does it, even Obama.she refuses to concede and divides the party until the very bitter end, risking a McCain victory in November
You’re giving her way too much credit. Obama can’t win over the blue collar, Reagan democrats. He tried many times but still not successful. Those are the voters in swing states and they are probably the majority of the 50+% that will not vote for Obama.May 7, 2008 at 2:51 PM #200826anParticipantShe brought up the race issue again and again
How is race not an issue. It always was and still is. 90% of black voters vote for Obama. Just think about it. She has about 60% of the white votes on average. So in states where there are a large % of black voters, he wins, plain and simple.She engaged in negative attacks
That’s the nature of the beast. Everybody does it, even Obama.she refuses to concede and divides the party until the very bitter end, risking a McCain victory in November
You’re giving her way too much credit. Obama can’t win over the blue collar, Reagan democrats. He tried many times but still not successful. Those are the voters in swing states and they are probably the majority of the 50+% that will not vote for Obama.May 7, 2008 at 3:48 PM #200736DukehornParticipantPlease, there’s a big difference in the race-baiting that she has been engaged in. Do you think Obama could get away telling Hillary that she won’t get elected in Nov. without the black vote? Do you see him making that condescending argument that she’s parroting?
And Obama only engaged in negativism when his campaign got hammered in PA. I find it ironic that people expect Obama to not defend himself when being attacked. Still his message has been consistently more above-board (feel free to disagree and then we can pull out some stats).
Frankly, Obama will have a tough time. He won’t get the blue collar Dems or the racist Asian immigrant Dem vote (like my mom).
That being said, in the long term (except for the SCOTUS issue), I think it’s better for the Dems to put up a historical candidate that will get blasted by the same old tired pro-war, anti-science, neo-cons. Then we’ll let McCain try to fix Bush’s mess(es). It’ll be amusing and kill the Republicans (a different party iteration) like Reconstruction.
Of course, the risks are the eviseration of privacy rights, probably expansion of fed powers (of course against the Constitution but “activist” judges are only called that if they’re liberal), more police powers, more attacks on the environment, more staffers “attending/escorting” NIH scientists, more non-scientists on NIH science boards, human embryonic cells being allowed to be thrown in the trash yet not used for science, a larger federal deficit, more bottom tier attorneys being placed at the DOJ, blah blah blah, you know the litany.
May 7, 2008 at 3:48 PM #200778DukehornParticipantPlease, there’s a big difference in the race-baiting that she has been engaged in. Do you think Obama could get away telling Hillary that she won’t get elected in Nov. without the black vote? Do you see him making that condescending argument that she’s parroting?
And Obama only engaged in negativism when his campaign got hammered in PA. I find it ironic that people expect Obama to not defend himself when being attacked. Still his message has been consistently more above-board (feel free to disagree and then we can pull out some stats).
Frankly, Obama will have a tough time. He won’t get the blue collar Dems or the racist Asian immigrant Dem vote (like my mom).
That being said, in the long term (except for the SCOTUS issue), I think it’s better for the Dems to put up a historical candidate that will get blasted by the same old tired pro-war, anti-science, neo-cons. Then we’ll let McCain try to fix Bush’s mess(es). It’ll be amusing and kill the Republicans (a different party iteration) like Reconstruction.
Of course, the risks are the eviseration of privacy rights, probably expansion of fed powers (of course against the Constitution but “activist” judges are only called that if they’re liberal), more police powers, more attacks on the environment, more staffers “attending/escorting” NIH scientists, more non-scientists on NIH science boards, human embryonic cells being allowed to be thrown in the trash yet not used for science, a larger federal deficit, more bottom tier attorneys being placed at the DOJ, blah blah blah, you know the litany.
May 7, 2008 at 3:48 PM #200804DukehornParticipantPlease, there’s a big difference in the race-baiting that she has been engaged in. Do you think Obama could get away telling Hillary that she won’t get elected in Nov. without the black vote? Do you see him making that condescending argument that she’s parroting?
And Obama only engaged in negativism when his campaign got hammered in PA. I find it ironic that people expect Obama to not defend himself when being attacked. Still his message has been consistently more above-board (feel free to disagree and then we can pull out some stats).
Frankly, Obama will have a tough time. He won’t get the blue collar Dems or the racist Asian immigrant Dem vote (like my mom).
That being said, in the long term (except for the SCOTUS issue), I think it’s better for the Dems to put up a historical candidate that will get blasted by the same old tired pro-war, anti-science, neo-cons. Then we’ll let McCain try to fix Bush’s mess(es). It’ll be amusing and kill the Republicans (a different party iteration) like Reconstruction.
Of course, the risks are the eviseration of privacy rights, probably expansion of fed powers (of course against the Constitution but “activist” judges are only called that if they’re liberal), more police powers, more attacks on the environment, more staffers “attending/escorting” NIH scientists, more non-scientists on NIH science boards, human embryonic cells being allowed to be thrown in the trash yet not used for science, a larger federal deficit, more bottom tier attorneys being placed at the DOJ, blah blah blah, you know the litany.
May 7, 2008 at 3:48 PM #200830DukehornParticipantPlease, there’s a big difference in the race-baiting that she has been engaged in. Do you think Obama could get away telling Hillary that she won’t get elected in Nov. without the black vote? Do you see him making that condescending argument that she’s parroting?
And Obama only engaged in negativism when his campaign got hammered in PA. I find it ironic that people expect Obama to not defend himself when being attacked. Still his message has been consistently more above-board (feel free to disagree and then we can pull out some stats).
Frankly, Obama will have a tough time. He won’t get the blue collar Dems or the racist Asian immigrant Dem vote (like my mom).
That being said, in the long term (except for the SCOTUS issue), I think it’s better for the Dems to put up a historical candidate that will get blasted by the same old tired pro-war, anti-science, neo-cons. Then we’ll let McCain try to fix Bush’s mess(es). It’ll be amusing and kill the Republicans (a different party iteration) like Reconstruction.
Of course, the risks are the eviseration of privacy rights, probably expansion of fed powers (of course against the Constitution but “activist” judges are only called that if they’re liberal), more police powers, more attacks on the environment, more staffers “attending/escorting” NIH scientists, more non-scientists on NIH science boards, human embryonic cells being allowed to be thrown in the trash yet not used for science, a larger federal deficit, more bottom tier attorneys being placed at the DOJ, blah blah blah, you know the litany.
May 7, 2008 at 3:48 PM #200864DukehornParticipantPlease, there’s a big difference in the race-baiting that she has been engaged in. Do you think Obama could get away telling Hillary that she won’t get elected in Nov. without the black vote? Do you see him making that condescending argument that she’s parroting?
And Obama only engaged in negativism when his campaign got hammered in PA. I find it ironic that people expect Obama to not defend himself when being attacked. Still his message has been consistently more above-board (feel free to disagree and then we can pull out some stats).
Frankly, Obama will have a tough time. He won’t get the blue collar Dems or the racist Asian immigrant Dem vote (like my mom).
That being said, in the long term (except for the SCOTUS issue), I think it’s better for the Dems to put up a historical candidate that will get blasted by the same old tired pro-war, anti-science, neo-cons. Then we’ll let McCain try to fix Bush’s mess(es). It’ll be amusing and kill the Republicans (a different party iteration) like Reconstruction.
Of course, the risks are the eviseration of privacy rights, probably expansion of fed powers (of course against the Constitution but “activist” judges are only called that if they’re liberal), more police powers, more attacks on the environment, more staffers “attending/escorting” NIH scientists, more non-scientists on NIH science boards, human embryonic cells being allowed to be thrown in the trash yet not used for science, a larger federal deficit, more bottom tier attorneys being placed at the DOJ, blah blah blah, you know the litany.
May 7, 2008 at 3:52 PM #200741DukehornParticipantThe Real Enemy (in my mind) is this
College biology teacher Jennifer Gruenke teaches her young charges that “light from distant galaxies is just a divine illusion” and that “men used to live to be nine hundred years old.
Think how competitive the US will be with students learning the above in college. Yeah, sounds great.
May 7, 2008 at 3:52 PM #200783DukehornParticipantThe Real Enemy (in my mind) is this
College biology teacher Jennifer Gruenke teaches her young charges that “light from distant galaxies is just a divine illusion” and that “men used to live to be nine hundred years old.
Think how competitive the US will be with students learning the above in college. Yeah, sounds great.
May 7, 2008 at 3:52 PM #200811DukehornParticipantThe Real Enemy (in my mind) is this
College biology teacher Jennifer Gruenke teaches her young charges that “light from distant galaxies is just a divine illusion” and that “men used to live to be nine hundred years old.
Think how competitive the US will be with students learning the above in college. Yeah, sounds great.
May 7, 2008 at 3:52 PM #200836DukehornParticipantThe Real Enemy (in my mind) is this
College biology teacher Jennifer Gruenke teaches her young charges that “light from distant galaxies is just a divine illusion” and that “men used to live to be nine hundred years old.
Think how competitive the US will be with students learning the above in college. Yeah, sounds great.
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