OT: why I’m voting for Obama

[Allan from Fallbrook]

[quote=Zeitgeist]Allan,
You missed your calling. You also might have sdg reread my posts. She has made many erroneous accusations about them. She either is a very poor reader or prefers to see what she wants to see. I think the three you mention have created a vast divide, but I usually see Rove back his arguments up with stubborn facts. The other two are nothing more than over paid operatives and has been consultants.[/quote]

Zeit: Thank you (I think). Don’t you feel we all suffer from a certain degree of confirmation bias? I can’t abide HuffPost or DailyKos and I would rather read PowerLine or RealClearPolitics instead. I don’t watch Fox News, but I also avoid CNN like the plague.

I’m sure I fall prey to some of the more questionable accusations surrounding Obama and the Dems, but I also know that much of what I see and read is real and, more importantly, verified by sources other than conservatives. I think the mass exodus of independents has exposed Obama and his beliefs and I think it’s going to get far worse from here on out.

Referring to him as an empty suit as Surveyor did, isn’t a pejorative to me, it’s an apt description. The very things that made Obama effective on the campaign trail, including coolness under pressure while Hillary was trying to carve him up, his soaring oratory and the message of “hope” and “change”, is now working against him. Now, he has to deliver on the message and the tempo and dynamic of the campaign has been replaced by having to actually govern the country and he’s being exposed as an inexperienced leftist ideologue. Again, not a put down, but an observation based on watching him operate.

I believe the Dems as a party are also experiencing the triumphalism and arrogance of a party that’s been out of power and is now back in, and they’re trying to do everything at once and attacking anyone or anything (i.e. Orszag and the CBO) that gets in their way.

And, I have the sense it’s going to get even more interesting going forward.

[afx114]

I would argue that Obama is losing support because he’s not been transformative enough, not because he’s been exposed as a “leftist ideologue.” He ran on being the spearhead of a movement of “out with the old, in with the new” and what we’ve ended up with is more of the same. This frustrates his supporters and the majority of the independents that voted for him, hence his falling poll numbers. Of course those on the right think that he’s going to far, but the majority who elected him are being let down by him not doing enough. I think he will realize this after giving “bipartisanism” a chance and adjust course, so I’m not going to write him off just yet.

[afx114]

I would argue that Obama is losing support because he’s not been transformative enough, not because he’s been exposed as a “leftist ideologue.” He ran on being the spearhead of a movement of “out with the old, in with the new” and what we’ve ended up with is more of the same. This frustrates his supporters and the majority of the independents that voted for him, hence his falling poll numbers. Of course those on the right think that he’s going to far, but the majority who elected him are being let down by him not doing enough. I think he will realize this after giving “bipartisanism” a chance and adjust course, so I’m not going to write him off just yet.

[afx114]

I would argue that Obama is losing support because he’s not been transformative enough, not because he’s been exposed as a “leftist ideologue.” He ran on being the spearhead of a movement of “out with the old, in with the new” and what we’ve ended up with is more of the same. This frustrates his supporters and the majority of the independents that voted for him, hence his falling poll numbers. Of course those on the right think that he’s going to far, but the majority who elected him are being let down by him not doing enough. I think he will realize this after giving “bipartisanism” a chance and adjust course, so I’m not going to write him off just yet.

[afx114]

I would argue that Obama is losing support because he’s not been transformative enough, not because he’s been exposed as a “leftist ideologue.” He ran on being the spearhead of a movement of “out with the old, in with the new” and what we’ve ended up with is more of the same. This frustrates his supporters and the majority of the independents that voted for him, hence his falling poll numbers. Of course those on the right think that he’s going to far, but the majority who elected him are being let down by him not doing enough. I think he will realize this after giving “bipartisanism” a chance and adjust course, so I’m not going to write him off just yet.

[afx114]

I would argue that Obama is losing support because he’s not been transformative enough, not because he’s been exposed as a “leftist ideologue.” He ran on being the spearhead of a movement of “out with the old, in with the new” and what we’ve ended up with is more of the same. This frustrates his supporters and the majority of the independents that voted for him, hence his falling poll numbers. Of course those on the right think that he’s going to far, but the majority who elected him are being let down by him not doing enough. I think he will realize this after giving “bipartisanism” a chance and adjust course, so I’m not going to write him off just yet.

[Zeitgeist]

I would say unless he acts like Clinton (Bill) and moves center right, stick a fork in him. The independents did not vet him very well and now are disillusioned. The libs are disappointed because he is not what they thought he would be. The repubs. picked a candidate without much appeal. He was the Dole of this decade. Maybe they learned a lesson and maybe they did not. The neocons smell blood. It is going to be a free for all for the next three years. Expect change, just not quite the change most bargained for.

[Zeitgeist]

I would say unless he acts like Clinton (Bill) and moves center right, stick a fork in him. The independents did not vet him very well and now are disillusioned. The libs are disappointed because he is not what they thought he would be. The repubs. picked a candidate without much appeal. He was the Dole of this decade. Maybe they learned a lesson and maybe they did not. The neocons smell blood. It is going to be a free for all for the next three years. Expect change, just not quite the change most bargained for.

[Zeitgeist]

I would say unless he acts like Clinton (Bill) and moves center right, stick a fork in him. The independents did not vet him very well and now are disillusioned. The libs are disappointed because he is not what they thought he would be. The repubs. picked a candidate without much appeal. He was the Dole of this decade. Maybe they learned a lesson and maybe they did not. The neocons smell blood. It is going to be a free for all for the next three years. Expect change, just not quite the change most bargained for.

[Zeitgeist]

I would say unless he acts like Clinton (Bill) and moves center right, stick a fork in him. The independents did not vet him very well and now are disillusioned. The libs are disappointed because he is not what they thought he would be. The repubs. picked a candidate without much appeal. He was the Dole of this decade. Maybe they learned a lesson and maybe they did not. The neocons smell blood. It is going to be a free for all for the next three years. Expect change, just not quite the change most bargained for.

[Zeitgeist]

I would say unless he acts like Clinton (Bill) and moves center right, stick a fork in him. The independents did not vet him very well and now are disillusioned. The libs are disappointed because he is not what they thought he would be. The repubs. picked a candidate without much appeal. He was the Dole of this decade. Maybe they learned a lesson and maybe they did not. The neocons smell blood. It is going to be a free for all for the next three years. Expect change, just not quite the change most bargained for.

[Zeitgeist]

Nice transparency:

The C-SPAN Lie? See Eight Clips of Obama Promising Televised Healthcare Negotiation
http://www.breitbart.tv/the-c-span-lie-did-obama-really-promise-televised-healthcare-negotiations/

The broken promises continue…

[Zeitgeist]

Nice transparency:

The C-SPAN Lie? See Eight Clips of Obama Promising Televised Healthcare Negotiation
http://www.breitbart.tv/the-c-span-lie-did-obama-really-promise-televised-healthcare-negotiations/

The broken promises continue…

[Zeitgeist]

Nice transparency:

The C-SPAN Lie? See Eight Clips of Obama Promising Televised Healthcare Negotiation
http://www.breitbart.tv/the-c-span-lie-did-obama-really-promise-televised-healthcare-negotiations/

The broken promises continue…

[Zeitgeist]

Nice transparency:

The C-SPAN Lie? See Eight Clips of Obama Promising Televised Healthcare Negotiation
http://www.breitbart.tv/the-c-span-lie-did-obama-really-promise-televised-healthcare-negotiations/

The broken promises continue…

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