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October 5, 2010 at 1:18 PM #613939October 5, 2010 at 1:52 PM #612895eavesdropperParticipant
[quote=flu] I don’t want to generalize that “everyone is like this”, because not everyone is…BUT, I can’t help feel that we (americans) have gotten pretty frickin arrogant, even in this day and age with a terrible economic climate. It’s horrible. Government given themselves big fat pension raises. Exec’s giving themselves big fat bonuses the moment they are “profitable” (with the help of government subsidies). UAW demanding big salary adjustments just now right at the point that Ford is recovering and doing better….I mean, all these early preliminary successes are just that…Preliminary….And then there’s the litigate for every imaginable piece of B.S. lawsuit, slip/fall/etc….It’s like everyone feels entitled to big cake without doing the heavy lifting…
No shit businesses hesitate to do things here and why we’re gitting our asses kicked on the economic front. Folks are so overly concerned aabout the H1-B invasion, but then at the same time there’s not enough folks going to science/technology, and folks always say “doesn’t pay enough, cost too much in terms of schooling/etc”. Folks are already predicting a shortage in high skilled worker bees in about 10 years… I don’t know what to say… I guess the economy hasn’t gotten THAT bad yet for folks, since this sort of crap still goes on. Everytime I see those “Shame on XXX, Labor Dispute”, I just want to hurdle my shoe at the signs, yet I can’t even do that because those folks picketing aren’t even the would be workers that are on strike..They’re outsourced ๐ !
Why do folks feel like they’re victim of something or the other these days???Oh well, welcome to the nanny state of america.
Ah well, at least you didn’t have this happen to you….http://www.myfoxdetroit.com/dpp/news/chrysler-auto-workers-busted_20100923_dk
Huh… UAW… $10 bucks says these folks will appeal and never be terminated, even though currently they are furlowed without pay…
Oh well, never mind. I’m going to stay in the “I don’t give a sh!t” mood that I adopted for the past few months.
LA LA LA LA LA LA LA…[/quote]
This is so spot-on. I really love this one, “It’s like everyone feels entitled to big cake without doing the heavy lifting…” Amen, Brother flu!
That’s one of the problems of the last 30 years: class lines have all but disappeared in people’s minds (and I use the term “class lines” loosely, so don’t be getting all over me about it, fellow Piggs).
Everyone is thinking they’re just as good as the next guy (gal), should make as much money, should live in as nice a neighborhood in as big a house, and drive the same luxury car. For quite a while, the booming real estate market and incredibly lax lending “standards” helped people to pretend (in a very real way) that this was actually the case.
There’s a big part of our population under the age of 30 who really believes this to be true. After all, they got the same trophy as all the other players on the peewee soccer team did, even though they really sucked. And they got Bs on their report cards after their mom went to the school and got the Ds taken away. Its not their fault that their “degree” in fashion merchandising didn’t get them that job as a systems programmer or genetics researcher – the interviewer was old and envious of their youth and beauty….
There’s no motivation for people to get an education these days. College isn’t about getting yourself some skills that an employer might actually need and want. For many, it’s just a way to put off the real world for a few more years. Attitudes have changed markedly over the past 30 years: there’s no shame in not getting or keeping employment, and there’s no shame in seeking out and taking unending government assistance. Unfortunately, there always seems to be a government safety net in place for these people.
I hear what you’re saying about the “I don’t give a sh!t” mood you’ve chosen to adopt. I’ve tried to do the same, and it’s cheaper than Xanax (even if it doesn’t work as well). Gosh, I hope there’s a government mental health plan for that in the works.
October 5, 2010 at 1:52 PM #612982eavesdropperParticipant[quote=flu] I don’t want to generalize that “everyone is like this”, because not everyone is…BUT, I can’t help feel that we (americans) have gotten pretty frickin arrogant, even in this day and age with a terrible economic climate. It’s horrible. Government given themselves big fat pension raises. Exec’s giving themselves big fat bonuses the moment they are “profitable” (with the help of government subsidies). UAW demanding big salary adjustments just now right at the point that Ford is recovering and doing better….I mean, all these early preliminary successes are just that…Preliminary….And then there’s the litigate for every imaginable piece of B.S. lawsuit, slip/fall/etc….It’s like everyone feels entitled to big cake without doing the heavy lifting…
No shit businesses hesitate to do things here and why we’re gitting our asses kicked on the economic front. Folks are so overly concerned aabout the H1-B invasion, but then at the same time there’s not enough folks going to science/technology, and folks always say “doesn’t pay enough, cost too much in terms of schooling/etc”. Folks are already predicting a shortage in high skilled worker bees in about 10 years… I don’t know what to say… I guess the economy hasn’t gotten THAT bad yet for folks, since this sort of crap still goes on. Everytime I see those “Shame on XXX, Labor Dispute”, I just want to hurdle my shoe at the signs, yet I can’t even do that because those folks picketing aren’t even the would be workers that are on strike..They’re outsourced ๐ !
Why do folks feel like they’re victim of something or the other these days???Oh well, welcome to the nanny state of america.
Ah well, at least you didn’t have this happen to you….http://www.myfoxdetroit.com/dpp/news/chrysler-auto-workers-busted_20100923_dk
Huh… UAW… $10 bucks says these folks will appeal and never be terminated, even though currently they are furlowed without pay…
Oh well, never mind. I’m going to stay in the “I don’t give a sh!t” mood that I adopted for the past few months.
LA LA LA LA LA LA LA…[/quote]
This is so spot-on. I really love this one, “It’s like everyone feels entitled to big cake without doing the heavy lifting…” Amen, Brother flu!
That’s one of the problems of the last 30 years: class lines have all but disappeared in people’s minds (and I use the term “class lines” loosely, so don’t be getting all over me about it, fellow Piggs).
Everyone is thinking they’re just as good as the next guy (gal), should make as much money, should live in as nice a neighborhood in as big a house, and drive the same luxury car. For quite a while, the booming real estate market and incredibly lax lending “standards” helped people to pretend (in a very real way) that this was actually the case.
There’s a big part of our population under the age of 30 who really believes this to be true. After all, they got the same trophy as all the other players on the peewee soccer team did, even though they really sucked. And they got Bs on their report cards after their mom went to the school and got the Ds taken away. Its not their fault that their “degree” in fashion merchandising didn’t get them that job as a systems programmer or genetics researcher – the interviewer was old and envious of their youth and beauty….
There’s no motivation for people to get an education these days. College isn’t about getting yourself some skills that an employer might actually need and want. For many, it’s just a way to put off the real world for a few more years. Attitudes have changed markedly over the past 30 years: there’s no shame in not getting or keeping employment, and there’s no shame in seeking out and taking unending government assistance. Unfortunately, there always seems to be a government safety net in place for these people.
I hear what you’re saying about the “I don’t give a sh!t” mood you’ve chosen to adopt. I’ve tried to do the same, and it’s cheaper than Xanax (even if it doesn’t work as well). Gosh, I hope there’s a government mental health plan for that in the works.
October 5, 2010 at 1:52 PM #613533eavesdropperParticipant[quote=flu] I don’t want to generalize that “everyone is like this”, because not everyone is…BUT, I can’t help feel that we (americans) have gotten pretty frickin arrogant, even in this day and age with a terrible economic climate. It’s horrible. Government given themselves big fat pension raises. Exec’s giving themselves big fat bonuses the moment they are “profitable” (with the help of government subsidies). UAW demanding big salary adjustments just now right at the point that Ford is recovering and doing better….I mean, all these early preliminary successes are just that…Preliminary….And then there’s the litigate for every imaginable piece of B.S. lawsuit, slip/fall/etc….It’s like everyone feels entitled to big cake without doing the heavy lifting…
No shit businesses hesitate to do things here and why we’re gitting our asses kicked on the economic front. Folks are so overly concerned aabout the H1-B invasion, but then at the same time there’s not enough folks going to science/technology, and folks always say “doesn’t pay enough, cost too much in terms of schooling/etc”. Folks are already predicting a shortage in high skilled worker bees in about 10 years… I don’t know what to say… I guess the economy hasn’t gotten THAT bad yet for folks, since this sort of crap still goes on. Everytime I see those “Shame on XXX, Labor Dispute”, I just want to hurdle my shoe at the signs, yet I can’t even do that because those folks picketing aren’t even the would be workers that are on strike..They’re outsourced ๐ !
Why do folks feel like they’re victim of something or the other these days???Oh well, welcome to the nanny state of america.
Ah well, at least you didn’t have this happen to you….http://www.myfoxdetroit.com/dpp/news/chrysler-auto-workers-busted_20100923_dk
Huh… UAW… $10 bucks says these folks will appeal and never be terminated, even though currently they are furlowed without pay…
Oh well, never mind. I’m going to stay in the “I don’t give a sh!t” mood that I adopted for the past few months.
LA LA LA LA LA LA LA…[/quote]
This is so spot-on. I really love this one, “It’s like everyone feels entitled to big cake without doing the heavy lifting…” Amen, Brother flu!
That’s one of the problems of the last 30 years: class lines have all but disappeared in people’s minds (and I use the term “class lines” loosely, so don’t be getting all over me about it, fellow Piggs).
Everyone is thinking they’re just as good as the next guy (gal), should make as much money, should live in as nice a neighborhood in as big a house, and drive the same luxury car. For quite a while, the booming real estate market and incredibly lax lending “standards” helped people to pretend (in a very real way) that this was actually the case.
There’s a big part of our population under the age of 30 who really believes this to be true. After all, they got the same trophy as all the other players on the peewee soccer team did, even though they really sucked. And they got Bs on their report cards after their mom went to the school and got the Ds taken away. Its not their fault that their “degree” in fashion merchandising didn’t get them that job as a systems programmer or genetics researcher – the interviewer was old and envious of their youth and beauty….
There’s no motivation for people to get an education these days. College isn’t about getting yourself some skills that an employer might actually need and want. For many, it’s just a way to put off the real world for a few more years. Attitudes have changed markedly over the past 30 years: there’s no shame in not getting or keeping employment, and there’s no shame in seeking out and taking unending government assistance. Unfortunately, there always seems to be a government safety net in place for these people.
I hear what you’re saying about the “I don’t give a sh!t” mood you’ve chosen to adopt. I’ve tried to do the same, and it’s cheaper than Xanax (even if it doesn’t work as well). Gosh, I hope there’s a government mental health plan for that in the works.
October 5, 2010 at 1:52 PM #613649eavesdropperParticipant[quote=flu] I don’t want to generalize that “everyone is like this”, because not everyone is…BUT, I can’t help feel that we (americans) have gotten pretty frickin arrogant, even in this day and age with a terrible economic climate. It’s horrible. Government given themselves big fat pension raises. Exec’s giving themselves big fat bonuses the moment they are “profitable” (with the help of government subsidies). UAW demanding big salary adjustments just now right at the point that Ford is recovering and doing better….I mean, all these early preliminary successes are just that…Preliminary….And then there’s the litigate for every imaginable piece of B.S. lawsuit, slip/fall/etc….It’s like everyone feels entitled to big cake without doing the heavy lifting…
No shit businesses hesitate to do things here and why we’re gitting our asses kicked on the economic front. Folks are so overly concerned aabout the H1-B invasion, but then at the same time there’s not enough folks going to science/technology, and folks always say “doesn’t pay enough, cost too much in terms of schooling/etc”. Folks are already predicting a shortage in high skilled worker bees in about 10 years… I don’t know what to say… I guess the economy hasn’t gotten THAT bad yet for folks, since this sort of crap still goes on. Everytime I see those “Shame on XXX, Labor Dispute”, I just want to hurdle my shoe at the signs, yet I can’t even do that because those folks picketing aren’t even the would be workers that are on strike..They’re outsourced ๐ !
Why do folks feel like they’re victim of something or the other these days???Oh well, welcome to the nanny state of america.
Ah well, at least you didn’t have this happen to you….http://www.myfoxdetroit.com/dpp/news/chrysler-auto-workers-busted_20100923_dk
Huh… UAW… $10 bucks says these folks will appeal and never be terminated, even though currently they are furlowed without pay…
Oh well, never mind. I’m going to stay in the “I don’t give a sh!t” mood that I adopted for the past few months.
LA LA LA LA LA LA LA…[/quote]
This is so spot-on. I really love this one, “It’s like everyone feels entitled to big cake without doing the heavy lifting…” Amen, Brother flu!
That’s one of the problems of the last 30 years: class lines have all but disappeared in people’s minds (and I use the term “class lines” loosely, so don’t be getting all over me about it, fellow Piggs).
Everyone is thinking they’re just as good as the next guy (gal), should make as much money, should live in as nice a neighborhood in as big a house, and drive the same luxury car. For quite a while, the booming real estate market and incredibly lax lending “standards” helped people to pretend (in a very real way) that this was actually the case.
There’s a big part of our population under the age of 30 who really believes this to be true. After all, they got the same trophy as all the other players on the peewee soccer team did, even though they really sucked. And they got Bs on their report cards after their mom went to the school and got the Ds taken away. Its not their fault that their “degree” in fashion merchandising didn’t get them that job as a systems programmer or genetics researcher – the interviewer was old and envious of their youth and beauty….
There’s no motivation for people to get an education these days. College isn’t about getting yourself some skills that an employer might actually need and want. For many, it’s just a way to put off the real world for a few more years. Attitudes have changed markedly over the past 30 years: there’s no shame in not getting or keeping employment, and there’s no shame in seeking out and taking unending government assistance. Unfortunately, there always seems to be a government safety net in place for these people.
I hear what you’re saying about the “I don’t give a sh!t” mood you’ve chosen to adopt. I’ve tried to do the same, and it’s cheaper than Xanax (even if it doesn’t work as well). Gosh, I hope there’s a government mental health plan for that in the works.
October 5, 2010 at 1:52 PM #613964eavesdropperParticipant[quote=flu] I don’t want to generalize that “everyone is like this”, because not everyone is…BUT, I can’t help feel that we (americans) have gotten pretty frickin arrogant, even in this day and age with a terrible economic climate. It’s horrible. Government given themselves big fat pension raises. Exec’s giving themselves big fat bonuses the moment they are “profitable” (with the help of government subsidies). UAW demanding big salary adjustments just now right at the point that Ford is recovering and doing better….I mean, all these early preliminary successes are just that…Preliminary….And then there’s the litigate for every imaginable piece of B.S. lawsuit, slip/fall/etc….It’s like everyone feels entitled to big cake without doing the heavy lifting…
No shit businesses hesitate to do things here and why we’re gitting our asses kicked on the economic front. Folks are so overly concerned aabout the H1-B invasion, but then at the same time there’s not enough folks going to science/technology, and folks always say “doesn’t pay enough, cost too much in terms of schooling/etc”. Folks are already predicting a shortage in high skilled worker bees in about 10 years… I don’t know what to say… I guess the economy hasn’t gotten THAT bad yet for folks, since this sort of crap still goes on. Everytime I see those “Shame on XXX, Labor Dispute”, I just want to hurdle my shoe at the signs, yet I can’t even do that because those folks picketing aren’t even the would be workers that are on strike..They’re outsourced ๐ !
Why do folks feel like they’re victim of something or the other these days???Oh well, welcome to the nanny state of america.
Ah well, at least you didn’t have this happen to you….http://www.myfoxdetroit.com/dpp/news/chrysler-auto-workers-busted_20100923_dk
Huh… UAW… $10 bucks says these folks will appeal and never be terminated, even though currently they are furlowed without pay…
Oh well, never mind. I’m going to stay in the “I don’t give a sh!t” mood that I adopted for the past few months.
LA LA LA LA LA LA LA…[/quote]
This is so spot-on. I really love this one, “It’s like everyone feels entitled to big cake without doing the heavy lifting…” Amen, Brother flu!
That’s one of the problems of the last 30 years: class lines have all but disappeared in people’s minds (and I use the term “class lines” loosely, so don’t be getting all over me about it, fellow Piggs).
Everyone is thinking they’re just as good as the next guy (gal), should make as much money, should live in as nice a neighborhood in as big a house, and drive the same luxury car. For quite a while, the booming real estate market and incredibly lax lending “standards” helped people to pretend (in a very real way) that this was actually the case.
There’s a big part of our population under the age of 30 who really believes this to be true. After all, they got the same trophy as all the other players on the peewee soccer team did, even though they really sucked. And they got Bs on their report cards after their mom went to the school and got the Ds taken away. Its not their fault that their “degree” in fashion merchandising didn’t get them that job as a systems programmer or genetics researcher – the interviewer was old and envious of their youth and beauty….
There’s no motivation for people to get an education these days. College isn’t about getting yourself some skills that an employer might actually need and want. For many, it’s just a way to put off the real world for a few more years. Attitudes have changed markedly over the past 30 years: there’s no shame in not getting or keeping employment, and there’s no shame in seeking out and taking unending government assistance. Unfortunately, there always seems to be a government safety net in place for these people.
I hear what you’re saying about the “I don’t give a sh!t” mood you’ve chosen to adopt. I’ve tried to do the same, and it’s cheaper than Xanax (even if it doesn’t work as well). Gosh, I hope there’s a government mental health plan for that in the works.
October 5, 2010 at 2:22 PM #612914CoronitaParticipantSpeaking of lawsuits….
Field trip anyone?
$$$$$$$$http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2010/oct/04/family-files-claim-over-wild-animal-park-field-tri/
In the news next. Public schools suspends field trips to parks/zoos over concerns of lawsuits…..
The family of a 10-year-old boy has filed a claim against the Mountain Empire Unified School District for $100,000 after the boy fractured his elbow on a school field trip, according to district documents.
Beau Nares was visiting the San Diego Wild Animal Park, now known as the San Diego Zoo Safari Park, with his class on May 12 when he injured himself, the claim said.
The family said the children on the trip were not properly supervised.
โBeau jumped from the top of the stairs at the Brass Gorilla statue,โ according to the claim. โHe fell and landed on his right hand resulting in a fracture to his arm.โ
A claim often is a precursor to a lawsuit.
Now where is my trusty 100 pound work printer/monitor that I can drop on my foot…
October 5, 2010 at 2:22 PM #613002CoronitaParticipantSpeaking of lawsuits….
Field trip anyone?
$$$$$$$$http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2010/oct/04/family-files-claim-over-wild-animal-park-field-tri/
In the news next. Public schools suspends field trips to parks/zoos over concerns of lawsuits…..
The family of a 10-year-old boy has filed a claim against the Mountain Empire Unified School District for $100,000 after the boy fractured his elbow on a school field trip, according to district documents.
Beau Nares was visiting the San Diego Wild Animal Park, now known as the San Diego Zoo Safari Park, with his class on May 12 when he injured himself, the claim said.
The family said the children on the trip were not properly supervised.
โBeau jumped from the top of the stairs at the Brass Gorilla statue,โ according to the claim. โHe fell and landed on his right hand resulting in a fracture to his arm.โ
A claim often is a precursor to a lawsuit.
Now where is my trusty 100 pound work printer/monitor that I can drop on my foot…
October 5, 2010 at 2:22 PM #613553CoronitaParticipantSpeaking of lawsuits….
Field trip anyone?
$$$$$$$$http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2010/oct/04/family-files-claim-over-wild-animal-park-field-tri/
In the news next. Public schools suspends field trips to parks/zoos over concerns of lawsuits…..
The family of a 10-year-old boy has filed a claim against the Mountain Empire Unified School District for $100,000 after the boy fractured his elbow on a school field trip, according to district documents.
Beau Nares was visiting the San Diego Wild Animal Park, now known as the San Diego Zoo Safari Park, with his class on May 12 when he injured himself, the claim said.
The family said the children on the trip were not properly supervised.
โBeau jumped from the top of the stairs at the Brass Gorilla statue,โ according to the claim. โHe fell and landed on his right hand resulting in a fracture to his arm.โ
A claim often is a precursor to a lawsuit.
Now where is my trusty 100 pound work printer/monitor that I can drop on my foot…
October 5, 2010 at 2:22 PM #613669CoronitaParticipantSpeaking of lawsuits….
Field trip anyone?
$$$$$$$$http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2010/oct/04/family-files-claim-over-wild-animal-park-field-tri/
In the news next. Public schools suspends field trips to parks/zoos over concerns of lawsuits…..
The family of a 10-year-old boy has filed a claim against the Mountain Empire Unified School District for $100,000 after the boy fractured his elbow on a school field trip, according to district documents.
Beau Nares was visiting the San Diego Wild Animal Park, now known as the San Diego Zoo Safari Park, with his class on May 12 when he injured himself, the claim said.
The family said the children on the trip were not properly supervised.
โBeau jumped from the top of the stairs at the Brass Gorilla statue,โ according to the claim. โHe fell and landed on his right hand resulting in a fracture to his arm.โ
A claim often is a precursor to a lawsuit.
Now where is my trusty 100 pound work printer/monitor that I can drop on my foot…
October 5, 2010 at 2:22 PM #613984CoronitaParticipantSpeaking of lawsuits….
Field trip anyone?
$$$$$$$$http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2010/oct/04/family-files-claim-over-wild-animal-park-field-tri/
In the news next. Public schools suspends field trips to parks/zoos over concerns of lawsuits…..
The family of a 10-year-old boy has filed a claim against the Mountain Empire Unified School District for $100,000 after the boy fractured his elbow on a school field trip, according to district documents.
Beau Nares was visiting the San Diego Wild Animal Park, now known as the San Diego Zoo Safari Park, with his class on May 12 when he injured himself, the claim said.
The family said the children on the trip were not properly supervised.
โBeau jumped from the top of the stairs at the Brass Gorilla statue,โ according to the claim. โHe fell and landed on his right hand resulting in a fracture to his arm.โ
A claim often is a precursor to a lawsuit.
Now where is my trusty 100 pound work printer/monitor that I can drop on my foot…
October 5, 2010 at 2:35 PM #612920eavesdropperParticipant[quote=Allan from Fallbrook] We’re now fundamentally an unserious country…….[/quote]
Anyone disagree with Alan, go to your television guide, and take a look at the listings. Sorta makes it difficult to dispute.
[quote=Allan from Fallbrook] We’re now fundamentally an unserious country. The nation that beat the Germans, Japanese and the Soviets and put a man on the moon, cannot figure out how to cap an oil leak in the Gulf of Mexico. We wring our hands and point fingers and speechify, but don’t DO shit.[/quote]
Because that’s all that most Americans CAN do. If you don’t want to put the time and effort and energy into education – and this means for your entire life – you’re only capable of sitting around and pointing fingers.
This is my biggest gripe about all the pontificating and sign-waving that are going on, and accusations that are being irresponsibly (and, at times, falsely) flung. Most of these people aren’t angry because they’re concerned about the state of the nation. They’re pissed off about deficiencies in their own lives. Deficiencies that, much of the time, are the result of poorly-made personal choices.
But it’s so much more satisfying to bitch and moan about how people who are really Communists and Socialists are taking away our rights and our country. Especially since there are a lot of people in chatrooms and message boards who are saying exactly the same thing. And it really gets fun when we start talking about how we might have to load our guns and take matters into our own hands. It’s times like that when I can almost forget that I’m in a dead-end job because I thought school was boring and a joke, or that my wife lost hers because her employer downsized and chose to keep the more-dependable employee. Or that I’m in the late stages of foreclosure because I took out a giant risky loan to buy a house bigger than my sister’s, and then sucked all the equity out of it so that I could invest in a boat and matching fully-loaded Yukons for me and the wife. Or that I have $75K in credit card debt because I didn’t want my baby girl to have to face the other girls at school without the breast implants and nosejob she needed.
Seriously, there’s a lot going on in the US today that’s protest-worthy. But, as I said earlier, most of these people have no idea what they’re protesting against. They’re simply following some other opportunistic politician(s), repeating every word and phrase they’re fed, and accomplishing nothing but polarization in the process.
[quote=Allan from Fallbrook] Sorry to vent, but this crap drives me crazy. Get the fucking lawyers and politicians and lobbyists and “advocates” and psychologists the hell out of the way and let those of us that want to work and succeed and excel do exactly that.[/quote]
Gee, Alan, you’re starting to sound like Ayn Rand. I elect you to be John Galt in the film.
October 5, 2010 at 2:35 PM #613007eavesdropperParticipant[quote=Allan from Fallbrook] We’re now fundamentally an unserious country…….[/quote]
Anyone disagree with Alan, go to your television guide, and take a look at the listings. Sorta makes it difficult to dispute.
[quote=Allan from Fallbrook] We’re now fundamentally an unserious country. The nation that beat the Germans, Japanese and the Soviets and put a man on the moon, cannot figure out how to cap an oil leak in the Gulf of Mexico. We wring our hands and point fingers and speechify, but don’t DO shit.[/quote]
Because that’s all that most Americans CAN do. If you don’t want to put the time and effort and energy into education – and this means for your entire life – you’re only capable of sitting around and pointing fingers.
This is my biggest gripe about all the pontificating and sign-waving that are going on, and accusations that are being irresponsibly (and, at times, falsely) flung. Most of these people aren’t angry because they’re concerned about the state of the nation. They’re pissed off about deficiencies in their own lives. Deficiencies that, much of the time, are the result of poorly-made personal choices.
But it’s so much more satisfying to bitch and moan about how people who are really Communists and Socialists are taking away our rights and our country. Especially since there are a lot of people in chatrooms and message boards who are saying exactly the same thing. And it really gets fun when we start talking about how we might have to load our guns and take matters into our own hands. It’s times like that when I can almost forget that I’m in a dead-end job because I thought school was boring and a joke, or that my wife lost hers because her employer downsized and chose to keep the more-dependable employee. Or that I’m in the late stages of foreclosure because I took out a giant risky loan to buy a house bigger than my sister’s, and then sucked all the equity out of it so that I could invest in a boat and matching fully-loaded Yukons for me and the wife. Or that I have $75K in credit card debt because I didn’t want my baby girl to have to face the other girls at school without the breast implants and nosejob she needed.
Seriously, there’s a lot going on in the US today that’s protest-worthy. But, as I said earlier, most of these people have no idea what they’re protesting against. They’re simply following some other opportunistic politician(s), repeating every word and phrase they’re fed, and accomplishing nothing but polarization in the process.
[quote=Allan from Fallbrook] Sorry to vent, but this crap drives me crazy. Get the fucking lawyers and politicians and lobbyists and “advocates” and psychologists the hell out of the way and let those of us that want to work and succeed and excel do exactly that.[/quote]
Gee, Alan, you’re starting to sound like Ayn Rand. I elect you to be John Galt in the film.
October 5, 2010 at 2:35 PM #613558eavesdropperParticipant[quote=Allan from Fallbrook] We’re now fundamentally an unserious country…….[/quote]
Anyone disagree with Alan, go to your television guide, and take a look at the listings. Sorta makes it difficult to dispute.
[quote=Allan from Fallbrook] We’re now fundamentally an unserious country. The nation that beat the Germans, Japanese and the Soviets and put a man on the moon, cannot figure out how to cap an oil leak in the Gulf of Mexico. We wring our hands and point fingers and speechify, but don’t DO shit.[/quote]
Because that’s all that most Americans CAN do. If you don’t want to put the time and effort and energy into education – and this means for your entire life – you’re only capable of sitting around and pointing fingers.
This is my biggest gripe about all the pontificating and sign-waving that are going on, and accusations that are being irresponsibly (and, at times, falsely) flung. Most of these people aren’t angry because they’re concerned about the state of the nation. They’re pissed off about deficiencies in their own lives. Deficiencies that, much of the time, are the result of poorly-made personal choices.
But it’s so much more satisfying to bitch and moan about how people who are really Communists and Socialists are taking away our rights and our country. Especially since there are a lot of people in chatrooms and message boards who are saying exactly the same thing. And it really gets fun when we start talking about how we might have to load our guns and take matters into our own hands. It’s times like that when I can almost forget that I’m in a dead-end job because I thought school was boring and a joke, or that my wife lost hers because her employer downsized and chose to keep the more-dependable employee. Or that I’m in the late stages of foreclosure because I took out a giant risky loan to buy a house bigger than my sister’s, and then sucked all the equity out of it so that I could invest in a boat and matching fully-loaded Yukons for me and the wife. Or that I have $75K in credit card debt because I didn’t want my baby girl to have to face the other girls at school without the breast implants and nosejob she needed.
Seriously, there’s a lot going on in the US today that’s protest-worthy. But, as I said earlier, most of these people have no idea what they’re protesting against. They’re simply following some other opportunistic politician(s), repeating every word and phrase they’re fed, and accomplishing nothing but polarization in the process.
[quote=Allan from Fallbrook] Sorry to vent, but this crap drives me crazy. Get the fucking lawyers and politicians and lobbyists and “advocates” and psychologists the hell out of the way and let those of us that want to work and succeed and excel do exactly that.[/quote]
Gee, Alan, you’re starting to sound like Ayn Rand. I elect you to be John Galt in the film.
October 5, 2010 at 2:35 PM #613674eavesdropperParticipant[quote=Allan from Fallbrook] We’re now fundamentally an unserious country…….[/quote]
Anyone disagree with Alan, go to your television guide, and take a look at the listings. Sorta makes it difficult to dispute.
[quote=Allan from Fallbrook] We’re now fundamentally an unserious country. The nation that beat the Germans, Japanese and the Soviets and put a man on the moon, cannot figure out how to cap an oil leak in the Gulf of Mexico. We wring our hands and point fingers and speechify, but don’t DO shit.[/quote]
Because that’s all that most Americans CAN do. If you don’t want to put the time and effort and energy into education – and this means for your entire life – you’re only capable of sitting around and pointing fingers.
This is my biggest gripe about all the pontificating and sign-waving that are going on, and accusations that are being irresponsibly (and, at times, falsely) flung. Most of these people aren’t angry because they’re concerned about the state of the nation. They’re pissed off about deficiencies in their own lives. Deficiencies that, much of the time, are the result of poorly-made personal choices.
But it’s so much more satisfying to bitch and moan about how people who are really Communists and Socialists are taking away our rights and our country. Especially since there are a lot of people in chatrooms and message boards who are saying exactly the same thing. And it really gets fun when we start talking about how we might have to load our guns and take matters into our own hands. It’s times like that when I can almost forget that I’m in a dead-end job because I thought school was boring and a joke, or that my wife lost hers because her employer downsized and chose to keep the more-dependable employee. Or that I’m in the late stages of foreclosure because I took out a giant risky loan to buy a house bigger than my sister’s, and then sucked all the equity out of it so that I could invest in a boat and matching fully-loaded Yukons for me and the wife. Or that I have $75K in credit card debt because I didn’t want my baby girl to have to face the other girls at school without the breast implants and nosejob she needed.
Seriously, there’s a lot going on in the US today that’s protest-worthy. But, as I said earlier, most of these people have no idea what they’re protesting against. They’re simply following some other opportunistic politician(s), repeating every word and phrase they’re fed, and accomplishing nothing but polarization in the process.
[quote=Allan from Fallbrook] Sorry to vent, but this crap drives me crazy. Get the fucking lawyers and politicians and lobbyists and “advocates” and psychologists the hell out of the way and let those of us that want to work and succeed and excel do exactly that.[/quote]
Gee, Alan, you’re starting to sound like Ayn Rand. I elect you to be John Galt in the film.
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