OT: What does it take to get a “green card” in Canada?

[Coronita]

Procolherring, thanks for the input.

My wife has labeled me as being insane, particularly since living in CA which is one or the more liberal states.

Still, I like to play the “what if” scenarios. I do love this country, but I do like planning for the worst. So recently, I’ve been giving some thought into this.

Yes, I have traveled quiet a bit in Canada.
Victoria, Vancouver, Montreal, Quebec, a few other places. Folks I met in Quebec were generally friendly (French without the stereotype French attitude), but still i guess I just didn’t feel I could fit in. I really liked Vancouver, and could see myself live there (good asian food, and culture). Personally don’t mind the cold weather though wifey isn’t fond of it. Hockey rocks, so that won’t be a problem (gripe about SD is that it doesn’t have an NHL team).

I have “heard” taxes are incredibly high, but it’s probably not surprising considering there are more social programs. Health care system I have heard is much better than what you would get hear, except really good health care you still need to pay for. It was sort of LOL for me when I read about “returning for healthcare in the U.S.” Among other problems, medicare to my understanding is in deep doodoo (worse shape than SSN).

The biggest problem my wife and i have is that we have heard there isn’t much opportunity there for enginerds (at least not as much as hear), though we really haven’t looked that much either. Then again, perhaps it will be a moot point as a refugee from U.S. concentration camps.

Anyway. Mind if I ask if you know anything about Real Estate in Canada? Rules, regulation about foreign owners,etc? (Yes, I’m aware the greenback dollar is soo weak now..)Just curious though.

[CardiffBaseball]

Personally, I’d take Bible Belt over Canada anyday, but that’s a personal preference. I do appreciate the apology to the United Nations for Bryan Adams. (South Park). It’s A-boot time.

Also Canada’s greatest export might be it’s comedians, and of course Geddy Lee, Neil Peart and Alex Lifeson.

Now all joking aside, FLU don’t you think you are pushing the panic button here a bit?

As an aside comparing Marion Jones to this incident to me doesn’t make sense. There is a big difference between a systemic form of cheating vs. an individual doping. Individuals doping has a long history and across many different nations.

As as aside I thought Germany was a country? Those cats have dropped out of site from the Olympics. Must be that surge in the popularity of American Football in Berlin…. Actually I just checked the medal count they aren’t doing so bad.

Back to Canada like I said Flu, I have a hard time believing that any hardship we yanks have to endure, wouldn’t end up causing some kind of reciprocal pain up there. Yes we are separate nations, but they export a lot of cars (and comedians) to the US. I always buy GM (back when employee discount wasn’t for everyone) and it seems as if I’ve had a few Canadian built cars.

[CardiffBaseball]

Personally, I’d take Bible Belt over Canada anyday, but that’s a personal preference. I do appreciate the apology to the United Nations for Bryan Adams. (South Park). It’s A-boot time.

Also Canada’s greatest export might be it’s comedians, and of course Geddy Lee, Neil Peart and Alex Lifeson.

Now all joking aside, FLU don’t you think you are pushing the panic button here a bit?

As an aside comparing Marion Jones to this incident to me doesn’t make sense. There is a big difference between a systemic form of cheating vs. an individual doping. Individuals doping has a long history and across many different nations.

As as aside I thought Germany was a country? Those cats have dropped out of site from the Olympics. Must be that surge in the popularity of American Football in Berlin…. Actually I just checked the medal count they aren’t doing so bad.

Back to Canada like I said Flu, I have a hard time believing that any hardship we yanks have to endure, wouldn’t end up causing some kind of reciprocal pain up there. Yes we are separate nations, but they export a lot of cars (and comedians) to the US. I always buy GM (back when employee discount wasn’t for everyone) and it seems as if I’ve had a few Canadian built cars.

[CardiffBaseball]

Personally, I’d take Bible Belt over Canada anyday, but that’s a personal preference. I do appreciate the apology to the United Nations for Bryan Adams. (South Park). It’s A-boot time.

Also Canada’s greatest export might be it’s comedians, and of course Geddy Lee, Neil Peart and Alex Lifeson.

Now all joking aside, FLU don’t you think you are pushing the panic button here a bit?

As an aside comparing Marion Jones to this incident to me doesn’t make sense. There is a big difference between a systemic form of cheating vs. an individual doping. Individuals doping has a long history and across many different nations.

As as aside I thought Germany was a country? Those cats have dropped out of site from the Olympics. Must be that surge in the popularity of American Football in Berlin…. Actually I just checked the medal count they aren’t doing so bad.

Back to Canada like I said Flu, I have a hard time believing that any hardship we yanks have to endure, wouldn’t end up causing some kind of reciprocal pain up there. Yes we are separate nations, but they export a lot of cars (and comedians) to the US. I always buy GM (back when employee discount wasn’t for everyone) and it seems as if I’ve had a few Canadian built cars.

[CardiffBaseball]

Personally, I’d take Bible Belt over Canada anyday, but that’s a personal preference. I do appreciate the apology to the United Nations for Bryan Adams. (South Park). It’s A-boot time.

Also Canada’s greatest export might be it’s comedians, and of course Geddy Lee, Neil Peart and Alex Lifeson.

Now all joking aside, FLU don’t you think you are pushing the panic button here a bit?

As an aside comparing Marion Jones to this incident to me doesn’t make sense. There is a big difference between a systemic form of cheating vs. an individual doping. Individuals doping has a long history and across many different nations.

As as aside I thought Germany was a country? Those cats have dropped out of site from the Olympics. Must be that surge in the popularity of American Football in Berlin…. Actually I just checked the medal count they aren’t doing so bad.

Back to Canada like I said Flu, I have a hard time believing that any hardship we yanks have to endure, wouldn’t end up causing some kind of reciprocal pain up there. Yes we are separate nations, but they export a lot of cars (and comedians) to the US. I always buy GM (back when employee discount wasn’t for everyone) and it seems as if I’ve had a few Canadian built cars.

[CardiffBaseball]

Personally, I’d take Bible Belt over Canada anyday, but that’s a personal preference. I do appreciate the apology to the United Nations for Bryan Adams. (South Park). It’s A-boot time.

Also Canada’s greatest export might be it’s comedians, and of course Geddy Lee, Neil Peart and Alex Lifeson.

Now all joking aside, FLU don’t you think you are pushing the panic button here a bit?

As an aside comparing Marion Jones to this incident to me doesn’t make sense. There is a big difference between a systemic form of cheating vs. an individual doping. Individuals doping has a long history and across many different nations.

As as aside I thought Germany was a country? Those cats have dropped out of site from the Olympics. Must be that surge in the popularity of American Football in Berlin…. Actually I just checked the medal count they aren’t doing so bad.

Back to Canada like I said Flu, I have a hard time believing that any hardship we yanks have to endure, wouldn’t end up causing some kind of reciprocal pain up there. Yes we are separate nations, but they export a lot of cars (and comedians) to the US. I always buy GM (back when employee discount wasn’t for everyone) and it seems as if I’ve had a few Canadian built cars.

[Anonymous]

California is a blue state, but SoCal, IMO, is very, very conservative. But, hey, if your wife considers you insane, you probably are 🙂 Women are right all of the time if you wish to be happily married.

I feel extremely grateful to have two homes. I love both countries and just couldn’t imagine my life without friends and family in both. I believe it gives me perspective and balances blind nationalism. (Sadly, under the reign of GWB—- hardly a fiscal or traditional conservative—it is now considered unpatriotic to criticize your own country into behaving better).

I’m a Maritimer/Bluenoser from Nova Scotia although I have family in BC (Victoria/Vancouver), “conservative” Alberta, and “French” Quebec. I understand your comments regarding French Canada and fitting in; sadly, Canadians are probably the worst offenders when it comes to complaining about it. Personally, I think Canada would be way too white bread without both cultures.

As for the weather, stick to the coasts. BC and Nova Scotia have very mild winters but tend to be rainy. As in the States, avoid the Great Lakes, those areas are truly the frozen tundra.

The taxes ARE higher in Canada. But if you factor in the gov’t benefits (health care being the biggest, affordable tuition second. After six years and two degrees at a prestigious college, I owed $16,000), I don’t think the net percentage makes much of a difference in lifestyle. (Anecdotally, many of my friends retired in their 40’s, all own their own homes, and all of their kids graduated from college. They’re not all living in McMansions or driving fancy cars, but they are enjoying themselves, despite the weather :).

I know nothing about your field in terms of opportunity. But I would guess Toronto or Vancouver would be your best bet in terms of $. Canada has always suffered from a brain drain due to better $ in the States.

As for real estate, I’m unaware of any law that would preclude you from buying. In my Province, it’s a point of contention that so many Americans own beach front or lake front property. Compared to California, waterfront is dirt cheap.

In any case, I wish you luck. As I said before, if the poop hits the fan, me and Husband are heading north—maybe we’ll see you on the boat 🙂

[Anonymous]

California is a blue state, but SoCal, IMO, is very, very conservative. But, hey, if your wife considers you insane, you probably are 🙂 Women are right all of the time if you wish to be happily married.

I feel extremely grateful to have two homes. I love both countries and just couldn’t imagine my life without friends and family in both. I believe it gives me perspective and balances blind nationalism. (Sadly, under the reign of GWB—- hardly a fiscal or traditional conservative—it is now considered unpatriotic to criticize your own country into behaving better).

I’m a Maritimer/Bluenoser from Nova Scotia although I have family in BC (Victoria/Vancouver), “conservative” Alberta, and “French” Quebec. I understand your comments regarding French Canada and fitting in; sadly, Canadians are probably the worst offenders when it comes to complaining about it. Personally, I think Canada would be way too white bread without both cultures.

As for the weather, stick to the coasts. BC and Nova Scotia have very mild winters but tend to be rainy. As in the States, avoid the Great Lakes, those areas are truly the frozen tundra.

The taxes ARE higher in Canada. But if you factor in the gov’t benefits (health care being the biggest, affordable tuition second. After six years and two degrees at a prestigious college, I owed $16,000), I don’t think the net percentage makes much of a difference in lifestyle. (Anecdotally, many of my friends retired in their 40’s, all own their own homes, and all of their kids graduated from college. They’re not all living in McMansions or driving fancy cars, but they are enjoying themselves, despite the weather :).

I know nothing about your field in terms of opportunity. But I would guess Toronto or Vancouver would be your best bet in terms of $. Canada has always suffered from a brain drain due to better $ in the States.

As for real estate, I’m unaware of any law that would preclude you from buying. In my Province, it’s a point of contention that so many Americans own beach front or lake front property. Compared to California, waterfront is dirt cheap.

In any case, I wish you luck. As I said before, if the poop hits the fan, me and Husband are heading north—maybe we’ll see you on the boat 🙂

[Anonymous]

California is a blue state, but SoCal, IMO, is very, very conservative. But, hey, if your wife considers you insane, you probably are 🙂 Women are right all of the time if you wish to be happily married.

I feel extremely grateful to have two homes. I love both countries and just couldn’t imagine my life without friends and family in both. I believe it gives me perspective and balances blind nationalism. (Sadly, under the reign of GWB—- hardly a fiscal or traditional conservative—it is now considered unpatriotic to criticize your own country into behaving better).

I’m a Maritimer/Bluenoser from Nova Scotia although I have family in BC (Victoria/Vancouver), “conservative” Alberta, and “French” Quebec. I understand your comments regarding French Canada and fitting in; sadly, Canadians are probably the worst offenders when it comes to complaining about it. Personally, I think Canada would be way too white bread without both cultures.

As for the weather, stick to the coasts. BC and Nova Scotia have very mild winters but tend to be rainy. As in the States, avoid the Great Lakes, those areas are truly the frozen tundra.

The taxes ARE higher in Canada. But if you factor in the gov’t benefits (health care being the biggest, affordable tuition second. After six years and two degrees at a prestigious college, I owed $16,000), I don’t think the net percentage makes much of a difference in lifestyle. (Anecdotally, many of my friends retired in their 40’s, all own their own homes, and all of their kids graduated from college. They’re not all living in McMansions or driving fancy cars, but they are enjoying themselves, despite the weather :).

I know nothing about your field in terms of opportunity. But I would guess Toronto or Vancouver would be your best bet in terms of $. Canada has always suffered from a brain drain due to better $ in the States.

As for real estate, I’m unaware of any law that would preclude you from buying. In my Province, it’s a point of contention that so many Americans own beach front or lake front property. Compared to California, waterfront is dirt cheap.

In any case, I wish you luck. As I said before, if the poop hits the fan, me and Husband are heading north—maybe we’ll see you on the boat 🙂

[Anonymous]

California is a blue state, but SoCal, IMO, is very, very conservative. But, hey, if your wife considers you insane, you probably are 🙂 Women are right all of the time if you wish to be happily married.

I feel extremely grateful to have two homes. I love both countries and just couldn’t imagine my life without friends and family in both. I believe it gives me perspective and balances blind nationalism. (Sadly, under the reign of GWB—- hardly a fiscal or traditional conservative—it is now considered unpatriotic to criticize your own country into behaving better).

I’m a Maritimer/Bluenoser from Nova Scotia although I have family in BC (Victoria/Vancouver), “conservative” Alberta, and “French” Quebec. I understand your comments regarding French Canada and fitting in; sadly, Canadians are probably the worst offenders when it comes to complaining about it. Personally, I think Canada would be way too white bread without both cultures.

As for the weather, stick to the coasts. BC and Nova Scotia have very mild winters but tend to be rainy. As in the States, avoid the Great Lakes, those areas are truly the frozen tundra.

The taxes ARE higher in Canada. But if you factor in the gov’t benefits (health care being the biggest, affordable tuition second. After six years and two degrees at a prestigious college, I owed $16,000), I don’t think the net percentage makes much of a difference in lifestyle. (Anecdotally, many of my friends retired in their 40’s, all own their own homes, and all of their kids graduated from college. They’re not all living in McMansions or driving fancy cars, but they are enjoying themselves, despite the weather :).

I know nothing about your field in terms of opportunity. But I would guess Toronto or Vancouver would be your best bet in terms of $. Canada has always suffered from a brain drain due to better $ in the States.

As for real estate, I’m unaware of any law that would preclude you from buying. In my Province, it’s a point of contention that so many Americans own beach front or lake front property. Compared to California, waterfront is dirt cheap.

In any case, I wish you luck. As I said before, if the poop hits the fan, me and Husband are heading north—maybe we’ll see you on the boat 🙂

[Anonymous]

California is a blue state, but SoCal, IMO, is very, very conservative. But, hey, if your wife considers you insane, you probably are 🙂 Women are right all of the time if you wish to be happily married.

I feel extremely grateful to have two homes. I love both countries and just couldn’t imagine my life without friends and family in both. I believe it gives me perspective and balances blind nationalism. (Sadly, under the reign of GWB—- hardly a fiscal or traditional conservative—it is now considered unpatriotic to criticize your own country into behaving better).

I’m a Maritimer/Bluenoser from Nova Scotia although I have family in BC (Victoria/Vancouver), “conservative” Alberta, and “French” Quebec. I understand your comments regarding French Canada and fitting in; sadly, Canadians are probably the worst offenders when it comes to complaining about it. Personally, I think Canada would be way too white bread without both cultures.

As for the weather, stick to the coasts. BC and Nova Scotia have very mild winters but tend to be rainy. As in the States, avoid the Great Lakes, those areas are truly the frozen tundra.

The taxes ARE higher in Canada. But if you factor in the gov’t benefits (health care being the biggest, affordable tuition second. After six years and two degrees at a prestigious college, I owed $16,000), I don’t think the net percentage makes much of a difference in lifestyle. (Anecdotally, many of my friends retired in their 40’s, all own their own homes, and all of their kids graduated from college. They’re not all living in McMansions or driving fancy cars, but they are enjoying themselves, despite the weather :).

I know nothing about your field in terms of opportunity. But I would guess Toronto or Vancouver would be your best bet in terms of $. Canada has always suffered from a brain drain due to better $ in the States.

As for real estate, I’m unaware of any law that would preclude you from buying. In my Province, it’s a point of contention that so many Americans own beach front or lake front property. Compared to California, waterfront is dirt cheap.

In any case, I wish you luck. As I said before, if the poop hits the fan, me and Husband are heading north—maybe we’ll see you on the boat 🙂

[Coronita]

[quote]Now all joking aside, FLU don’t you think you are pushing the panic button here a bit?

As an aside comparing Marion Jones to this incident to me doesn’t make sense. There is a big difference between a systemic form of cheating vs. an individual doping. Individuals doping has a long history and across many different nations.[/quote]

Oh, I know I am. Frankly, I really don’t give a hoot about the olympics or cheating or whatever.

It’s not the economic hardship about the U.S. that we will encounter that I worry about and a reason why I would leave. I think one can survive economic hardships through self-regulation and discipline.

I worry a lot about a repeat of the fate of roughly 110,000 Japanese-Americans went through I do worry a lot about U.S. relation with China for various reasons. Not that I particularly like china (yes, a lot of corruption, a lot of other issues..no way in hell would i ever want to live there) But every so often when I hear about things like this that put a knot in relations between the two countries, it makes me think a bit. Let’s say we really get into a war with china. I can’t think any any chinese-american not worry about things. I’m not kidding about the concentration camps. I don’t think this country has learned from it’s past. Some of those bible belt backassward folks in the south probably don’t even know where the hell Taiwan is, let alone sort out the differences between us. Heck they can barely tell koreans, japanese, and chinese apart. And i’m sure if it gets to that, it will be like, “ah stick them on in a camp, and then sort them out”….Perhaps i need to dig up that old NRA membership afterall 🙁

Side note: Lately, I hear so much comparison between Roosevelt and Obama. To me, that ain’t a good thing.If my memory of american history serves me correctly, I believe it was Roosevelt that signed executive order 9066. I wonder if Obama is going to end up signing the next one.

[Coronita]

[quote]Now all joking aside, FLU don’t you think you are pushing the panic button here a bit?

As an aside comparing Marion Jones to this incident to me doesn’t make sense. There is a big difference between a systemic form of cheating vs. an individual doping. Individuals doping has a long history and across many different nations.[/quote]

Oh, I know I am. Frankly, I really don’t give a hoot about the olympics or cheating or whatever.

It’s not the economic hardship about the U.S. that we will encounter that I worry about and a reason why I would leave. I think one can survive economic hardships through self-regulation and discipline.

I worry a lot about a repeat of the fate of roughly 110,000 Japanese-Americans went through I do worry a lot about U.S. relation with China for various reasons. Not that I particularly like china (yes, a lot of corruption, a lot of other issues..no way in hell would i ever want to live there) But every so often when I hear about things like this that put a knot in relations between the two countries, it makes me think a bit. Let’s say we really get into a war with china. I can’t think any any chinese-american not worry about things. I’m not kidding about the concentration camps. I don’t think this country has learned from it’s past. Some of those bible belt backassward folks in the south probably don’t even know where the hell Taiwan is, let alone sort out the differences between us. Heck they can barely tell koreans, japanese, and chinese apart. And i’m sure if it gets to that, it will be like, “ah stick them on in a camp, and then sort them out”….Perhaps i need to dig up that old NRA membership afterall 🙁

Side note: Lately, I hear so much comparison between Roosevelt and Obama. To me, that ain’t a good thing.If my memory of american history serves me correctly, I believe it was Roosevelt that signed executive order 9066. I wonder if Obama is going to end up signing the next one.

[Coronita]

[quote]Now all joking aside, FLU don’t you think you are pushing the panic button here a bit?

As an aside comparing Marion Jones to this incident to me doesn’t make sense. There is a big difference between a systemic form of cheating vs. an individual doping. Individuals doping has a long history and across many different nations.[/quote]

Oh, I know I am. Frankly, I really don’t give a hoot about the olympics or cheating or whatever.

It’s not the economic hardship about the U.S. that we will encounter that I worry about and a reason why I would leave. I think one can survive economic hardships through self-regulation and discipline.

I worry a lot about a repeat of the fate of roughly 110,000 Japanese-Americans went through I do worry a lot about U.S. relation with China for various reasons. Not that I particularly like china (yes, a lot of corruption, a lot of other issues..no way in hell would i ever want to live there) But every so often when I hear about things like this that put a knot in relations between the two countries, it makes me think a bit. Let’s say we really get into a war with china. I can’t think any any chinese-american not worry about things. I’m not kidding about the concentration camps. I don’t think this country has learned from it’s past. Some of those bible belt backassward folks in the south probably don’t even know where the hell Taiwan is, let alone sort out the differences between us. Heck they can barely tell koreans, japanese, and chinese apart. And i’m sure if it gets to that, it will be like, “ah stick them on in a camp, and then sort them out”….Perhaps i need to dig up that old NRA membership afterall 🙁

Side note: Lately, I hear so much comparison between Roosevelt and Obama. To me, that ain’t a good thing.If my memory of american history serves me correctly, I believe it was Roosevelt that signed executive order 9066. I wonder if Obama is going to end up signing the next one.

[Coronita]

[quote]Now all joking aside, FLU don’t you think you are pushing the panic button here a bit?

As an aside comparing Marion Jones to this incident to me doesn’t make sense. There is a big difference between a systemic form of cheating vs. an individual doping. Individuals doping has a long history and across many different nations.[/quote]

Oh, I know I am. Frankly, I really don’t give a hoot about the olympics or cheating or whatever.

It’s not the economic hardship about the U.S. that we will encounter that I worry about and a reason why I would leave. I think one can survive economic hardships through self-regulation and discipline.

I worry a lot about a repeat of the fate of roughly 110,000 Japanese-Americans went through I do worry a lot about U.S. relation with China for various reasons. Not that I particularly like china (yes, a lot of corruption, a lot of other issues..no way in hell would i ever want to live there) But every so often when I hear about things like this that put a knot in relations between the two countries, it makes me think a bit. Let’s say we really get into a war with china. I can’t think any any chinese-american not worry about things. I’m not kidding about the concentration camps. I don’t think this country has learned from it’s past. Some of those bible belt backassward folks in the south probably don’t even know where the hell Taiwan is, let alone sort out the differences between us. Heck they can barely tell koreans, japanese, and chinese apart. And i’m sure if it gets to that, it will be like, “ah stick them on in a camp, and then sort them out”….Perhaps i need to dig up that old NRA membership afterall 🙁

Side note: Lately, I hear so much comparison between Roosevelt and Obama. To me, that ain’t a good thing.If my memory of american history serves me correctly, I believe it was Roosevelt that signed executive order 9066. I wonder if Obama is going to end up signing the next one.

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