OT: What do you folks think about the octet mom?

[San Diego RE Bear]

I suspect she’ll make a lot of money from interviews, book deals and I’m guessing a future reality show. Rumor has it she was already paid $300,000 for one morning program show. The more irresponsible the story maker the more money they pay them which is just disgusting.

That said, I hope the hospital (who has asked for help from CA in paying her costs) goes after the money for her bills as does the insurance company and later Soc Sec in the some $150,000 in disability payments she received for a “bad back” while popping out 14 kids. Yes, she’d been on disability since 2001.

Once all her bills are paid and the insurance fraud lawsuit settled and time served for insurance fraud is completed, she can keep the leftover money and try to raise the kids. I don’t think the state has any right to take her children away if she is providing for them. And if she’s smart she’ll be able to.

But while I don’t believe we have a right to take people’s kids away because we disagree with their “choices,” we certainly have a right to make a moral judgement on them. And I consider this a very, very immoral, selfish woman. She’s a criminal – stealing from the state for false disability (also student loans used for IVF.) I had a bad back for six weeks a few months ago. It was agony. I could barely drive and carrying one baby much less eight babies at once would not have considered, I was in too much pain. If you can pop out 14 kids you can work. (Be aware there may be medical realities I am unaware of and I am not a doctor so that statement may be very false.) But I don’t think there’s a job out there that the average woman does that would be 1/10th the work of caring for 14 babies under the age of 8. She’s a bad mother – one person can’t give enough attention to 14 small children, they just can’t. Find me a day care center that has a 14 to one ratio with well over half the kids being babies. And she’s bad because with 3 special needs kids already she created a situation where some huge percentage of the newbies are going to have developmental problems. You just can’t have a litter that large and babies that small without future problems.

My understanding is that when she was released from the hospital she sat down to do an interview BEFORE going to see her other 6 kids. I think that says it all.

The sad thing is I refuse to watch any of the interviews or shows about her but I still know all this. Sickening how such a freak show gains so much importance while the average person can’t tell you why the economy imploded and how many of the “solutions” will make it worse. One good thing about a truly harsh correction is maybe we’ll stop rewading people like this who make absolutely stupid decisions that are “human interest.” Because you just know something is thinking “how can I carry 9 babies at once. They’re so cute!”

[Aecetia]

If this was a poll, I would vote her off the Island. I think she is going to drive her mother into an early grave. It also makes me think the Chinese are on to something when they limit births. I also feel sorry for her children. She is self-centered, self- absorbed and an unfit mother. Her children will be cared for by taxpayers because she had a doctor willing to implant embryos in her. I hate government over intrusion in our lives, but she is the poster child for why it happens.

[Aecetia]

If this was a poll, I would vote her off the Island. I think she is going to drive her mother into an early grave. It also makes me think the Chinese are on to something when they limit births. I also feel sorry for her children. She is self-centered, self- absorbed and an unfit mother. Her children will be cared for by taxpayers because she had a doctor willing to implant embryos in her. I hate government over intrusion in our lives, but she is the poster child for why it happens.

[Aecetia]

If this was a poll, I would vote her off the Island. I think she is going to drive her mother into an early grave. It also makes me think the Chinese are on to something when they limit births. I also feel sorry for her children. She is self-centered, self- absorbed and an unfit mother. Her children will be cared for by taxpayers because she had a doctor willing to implant embryos in her. I hate government over intrusion in our lives, but she is the poster child for why it happens.

[Aecetia]

If this was a poll, I would vote her off the Island. I think she is going to drive her mother into an early grave. It also makes me think the Chinese are on to something when they limit births. I also feel sorry for her children. She is self-centered, self- absorbed and an unfit mother. Her children will be cared for by taxpayers because she had a doctor willing to implant embryos in her. I hate government over intrusion in our lives, but she is the poster child for why it happens.

[Aecetia]

If this was a poll, I would vote her off the Island. I think she is going to drive her mother into an early grave. It also makes me think the Chinese are on to something when they limit births. I also feel sorry for her children. She is self-centered, self- absorbed and an unfit mother. Her children will be cared for by taxpayers because she had a doctor willing to implant embryos in her. I hate government over intrusion in our lives, but she is the poster child for why it happens.

[kev374]

the whole thing is a travesty. I feel so sorry for those kids. I think 1 kid is difficult enough when you have no income and job, I can’t even fathom how she is going to take care of 14.

[kev374]

the whole thing is a travesty. I feel so sorry for those kids. I think 1 kid is difficult enough when you have no income and job, I can’t even fathom how she is going to take care of 14.

[kev374]

the whole thing is a travesty. I feel so sorry for those kids. I think 1 kid is difficult enough when you have no income and job, I can’t even fathom how she is going to take care of 14.

[kev374]

the whole thing is a travesty. I feel so sorry for those kids. I think 1 kid is difficult enough when you have no income and job, I can’t even fathom how she is going to take care of 14.

[kev374]

the whole thing is a travesty. I feel so sorry for those kids. I think 1 kid is difficult enough when you have no income and job, I can’t even fathom how she is going to take care of 14.

[barnaby33]

so only the wealthy should have kids?”

If by wealthy she meant those who stand a reasonable chance of supporting them, yes definitely. The problem isn’t this one woman, its the system. One in which each individual can make choices that are VERY expensive for everyone else.

Like it or not, unless we want to have mandatory abortion, or let the kids starve, society is on the hook to feed and clothe and house all those kids. Yet we have no choice in whether she has more. Ultimately the universe says thats a bad decision matrix and we will all ultimately pay a very high price.

Its the same as loaning money to people who can’t pay it back. Even those of us who didn’t binge, pay.

[barnaby33]

so only the wealthy should have kids?”

If by wealthy she meant those who stand a reasonable chance of supporting them, yes definitely. The problem isn’t this one woman, its the system. One in which each individual can make choices that are VERY expensive for everyone else.

Like it or not, unless we want to have mandatory abortion, or let the kids starve, society is on the hook to feed and clothe and house all those kids. Yet we have no choice in whether she has more. Ultimately the universe says thats a bad decision matrix and we will all ultimately pay a very high price.

Its the same as loaning money to people who can’t pay it back. Even those of us who didn’t binge, pay.

[barnaby33]

so only the wealthy should have kids?”

If by wealthy she meant those who stand a reasonable chance of supporting them, yes definitely. The problem isn’t this one woman, its the system. One in which each individual can make choices that are VERY expensive for everyone else.

Like it or not, unless we want to have mandatory abortion, or let the kids starve, society is on the hook to feed and clothe and house all those kids. Yet we have no choice in whether she has more. Ultimately the universe says thats a bad decision matrix and we will all ultimately pay a very high price.

Its the same as loaning money to people who can’t pay it back. Even those of us who didn’t binge, pay.

[barnaby33]

so only the wealthy should have kids?”

If by wealthy she meant those who stand a reasonable chance of supporting them, yes definitely. The problem isn’t this one woman, its the system. One in which each individual can make choices that are VERY expensive for everyone else.

Like it or not, unless we want to have mandatory abortion, or let the kids starve, society is on the hook to feed and clothe and house all those kids. Yet we have no choice in whether she has more. Ultimately the universe says thats a bad decision matrix and we will all ultimately pay a very high price.

Its the same as loaning money to people who can’t pay it back. Even those of us who didn’t binge, pay.

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