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  • February 13, 2009 at 5:53 AM #346226
    Navydoc
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    [quote=no_such_reality]Navydoc, you didn’t say anything.

    What is the probability an embryo splits? 32 out of 1000? That’s one, two concurrent splits?

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    The answer to your question is not completely known. The chance of a spontaneous embryo splitting in a natural pregnancy is 0.42%, but, as we all know, this is anything but a natural pregnancy. I also can’t meaningfully respond without knowing more about her specific IVF procedure. Twinning rates are higher if intracytoplasmic sperm injection was used to make the embryos, a real possibility, since in this case she used donor sperm. When a patient conceived via IVF we always get a report from the REI staing how many embryos were transferred, and I agree, 2 splitting events simultaneously would be unusual, just not impossible.

    Much of the work in IVF is focused on making the best posssible embryo quality, and unfortunately, we often don’t know what will happen until after the fact.

    February 13, 2009 at 6:09 AM #345671
    Navydoc
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    Just found a neat case report of a monochorionic/triamniotic triplet pregnancy after IVF. This particular configuration could only occur after 2 twinning events in the same embryo. In the case 2 embryos were transferred, but only one survived and implanted.

    http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?tool=pubmed&pubmedid=12906712

    February 13, 2009 at 6:09 AM #345992
    Navydoc
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    Just found a neat case report of a monochorionic/triamniotic triplet pregnancy after IVF. This particular configuration could only occur after 2 twinning events in the same embryo. In the case 2 embryos were transferred, but only one survived and implanted.

    http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?tool=pubmed&pubmedid=12906712

    February 13, 2009 at 6:09 AM #346099
    Navydoc
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    Just found a neat case report of a monochorionic/triamniotic triplet pregnancy after IVF. This particular configuration could only occur after 2 twinning events in the same embryo. In the case 2 embryos were transferred, but only one survived and implanted.

    http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?tool=pubmed&pubmedid=12906712

    February 13, 2009 at 6:09 AM #346133
    Navydoc
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    Just found a neat case report of a monochorionic/triamniotic triplet pregnancy after IVF. This particular configuration could only occur after 2 twinning events in the same embryo. In the case 2 embryos were transferred, but only one survived and implanted.

    http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?tool=pubmed&pubmedid=12906712

    February 13, 2009 at 6:09 AM #346232
    Navydoc
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    Just found a neat case report of a monochorionic/triamniotic triplet pregnancy after IVF. This particular configuration could only occur after 2 twinning events in the same embryo. In the case 2 embryos were transferred, but only one survived and implanted.

    http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?tool=pubmed&pubmedid=12906712

    February 13, 2009 at 9:08 AM #345771
    Arraya
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    This is such a non-issue. What about the tens of thousands of severely wounded soldiers coming back from Iraq and Afghanistan? They are going to cost taxpayers a cool trillion. And they’re are still over there killing and dying and costing us money! Anyone going to be held accountable for our tax dollars being wasted in Iraq and Afghanistan? A bunker buster probably cost more then the price of raising her entire litter. The way social services are being cut, she might not get the assistance folks are yowling about. Yeah sure this woman is a nutcase, and it seems people on this board want to see her suffer, but mostly she is a distraction to the real problems at hand and the real people who have cause them.

    February 13, 2009 at 9:08 AM #346092
    Arraya
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    This is such a non-issue. What about the tens of thousands of severely wounded soldiers coming back from Iraq and Afghanistan? They are going to cost taxpayers a cool trillion. And they’re are still over there killing and dying and costing us money! Anyone going to be held accountable for our tax dollars being wasted in Iraq and Afghanistan? A bunker buster probably cost more then the price of raising her entire litter. The way social services are being cut, she might not get the assistance folks are yowling about. Yeah sure this woman is a nutcase, and it seems people on this board want to see her suffer, but mostly she is a distraction to the real problems at hand and the real people who have cause them.

    February 13, 2009 at 9:08 AM #346199
    Arraya
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    This is such a non-issue. What about the tens of thousands of severely wounded soldiers coming back from Iraq and Afghanistan? They are going to cost taxpayers a cool trillion. And they’re are still over there killing and dying and costing us money! Anyone going to be held accountable for our tax dollars being wasted in Iraq and Afghanistan? A bunker buster probably cost more then the price of raising her entire litter. The way social services are being cut, she might not get the assistance folks are yowling about. Yeah sure this woman is a nutcase, and it seems people on this board want to see her suffer, but mostly she is a distraction to the real problems at hand and the real people who have cause them.

    February 13, 2009 at 9:08 AM #346233
    Arraya
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    This is such a non-issue. What about the tens of thousands of severely wounded soldiers coming back from Iraq and Afghanistan? They are going to cost taxpayers a cool trillion. And they’re are still over there killing and dying and costing us money! Anyone going to be held accountable for our tax dollars being wasted in Iraq and Afghanistan? A bunker buster probably cost more then the price of raising her entire litter. The way social services are being cut, she might not get the assistance folks are yowling about. Yeah sure this woman is a nutcase, and it seems people on this board want to see her suffer, but mostly she is a distraction to the real problems at hand and the real people who have cause them.

    February 13, 2009 at 9:08 AM #346332
    Arraya
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    This is such a non-issue. What about the tens of thousands of severely wounded soldiers coming back from Iraq and Afghanistan? They are going to cost taxpayers a cool trillion. And they’re are still over there killing and dying and costing us money! Anyone going to be held accountable for our tax dollars being wasted in Iraq and Afghanistan? A bunker buster probably cost more then the price of raising her entire litter. The way social services are being cut, she might not get the assistance folks are yowling about. Yeah sure this woman is a nutcase, and it seems people on this board want to see her suffer, but mostly she is a distraction to the real problems at hand and the real people who have cause them.

    February 13, 2009 at 9:17 AM #345781
    Coronita
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    [quote=arraya]This is such a non-issue. What about the tens of thousands of severely wounded soldiers coming back from Iraq and Afghanistan? They are going to cost taxpayers a cool trillion. And they’re are still over there killing and dying and costing us money! Anyone going to be held accountable for our tax dollars being wasted in Iraq and Afghanistan? A bunker buster probably cost more then the price of raising her entire litter. The way social services are being cut, she might not get the assistance folks are yowling about. Yeah sure this woman is a nutcase, and it seems people on this board want to see her suffer, but mostly she is a distraction to the real problems at hand and the real people who have cause them.[/quote]

    Cool, then you don’t my paying for the rest of us…Thanks…

    February 13, 2009 at 9:17 AM #346102
    Coronita
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    [quote=arraya]This is such a non-issue. What about the tens of thousands of severely wounded soldiers coming back from Iraq and Afghanistan? They are going to cost taxpayers a cool trillion. And they’re are still over there killing and dying and costing us money! Anyone going to be held accountable for our tax dollars being wasted in Iraq and Afghanistan? A bunker buster probably cost more then the price of raising her entire litter. The way social services are being cut, she might not get the assistance folks are yowling about. Yeah sure this woman is a nutcase, and it seems people on this board want to see her suffer, but mostly she is a distraction to the real problems at hand and the real people who have cause them.[/quote]

    Cool, then you don’t my paying for the rest of us…Thanks…

    February 13, 2009 at 9:17 AM #346209
    Coronita
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    [quote=arraya]This is such a non-issue. What about the tens of thousands of severely wounded soldiers coming back from Iraq and Afghanistan? They are going to cost taxpayers a cool trillion. And they’re are still over there killing and dying and costing us money! Anyone going to be held accountable for our tax dollars being wasted in Iraq and Afghanistan? A bunker buster probably cost more then the price of raising her entire litter. The way social services are being cut, she might not get the assistance folks are yowling about. Yeah sure this woman is a nutcase, and it seems people on this board want to see her suffer, but mostly she is a distraction to the real problems at hand and the real people who have cause them.[/quote]

    Cool, then you don’t my paying for the rest of us…Thanks…

    February 13, 2009 at 9:17 AM #346243
    Coronita
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    [quote=arraya]This is such a non-issue. What about the tens of thousands of severely wounded soldiers coming back from Iraq and Afghanistan? They are going to cost taxpayers a cool trillion. And they’re are still over there killing and dying and costing us money! Anyone going to be held accountable for our tax dollars being wasted in Iraq and Afghanistan? A bunker buster probably cost more then the price of raising her entire litter. The way social services are being cut, she might not get the assistance folks are yowling about. Yeah sure this woman is a nutcase, and it seems people on this board want to see her suffer, but mostly she is a distraction to the real problems at hand and the real people who have cause them.[/quote]

    Cool, then you don’t my paying for the rest of us…Thanks…

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