ot. wait. cops actually lie?

[scaredyclassic]

And kill people just cause theyre pissed. And lie about it?

Naah.

And their buddies back them up.

And their department too? Please…

No way.

It’s difficult being a police officer. Sometimes you just need to blow off some tension by getting a few rounds off in some guys back.

Claimed they did CPR.

Cojones!

[FlyerInHi]

No way. They don’t lie

What? What happenned? Got up late and didn’t read the news yet.

[spdrun]

Are we talking about the guy who was shot in SC?

[svelte]

I think two things ought to happen soon:
(1) All officers required to wear body cameras
(2) There need to be national stats generated on police shootings – who, what, where,when. As I understand it, they are not generated now. Makes me wonder why not? Stats are generated on everything else…

Obviously this was an unjustified shooting, no doubt about it.

But call me crazy…if I don’t resist or run from the police, I think my chances of getting shot go waaaaay down. Dunno, just a hunch.

[scaredyclassic]

[quote=svelte]I think two things ought to happen soon:
(1) All officers required to wear body cameras
(2) There need to be national stats generated on police shootings – who, what, where,when. As I understand it, they are not generated now. Makes me wonder why not? Stats are generated on everything else…

Obviously this was an unjustified shooting, no doubt about it.

But call me crazy…if I don’t resist or run from the police, I think my chances of getting shot go waaaaay down. Dunno, just a hunch.[/quote]

yeah. True. I advise you to submit.

if you freak out or resist or run you may be summarily executed.

As long as you obey we may allow you to live.

[Coronita]

So what do you guys think about the latest thing that happened in Arizona with the cop running over an armed gunman? Justified?

[svelte]

[quote=flu]So what do you guys think about the latest thing that happened in Arizona with the cop running over an armed gunman? Justified?[/quote]

I haven’t watched the video, but if a guy is walking around with the rifle about to shoot someone, I think it is within the rights of the police to take the dude down. Even if that means with a cruiser.

Again, if I don’t want any trouble, I shouldn’t be doing anything illegal.

[svelte]

[quote=scaredyclassic][quote=svelte]I think two things ought to happen soon:
(1) All officers required to wear body cameras
(2) There need to be national stats generated on police shootings – who, what, where,when. As I understand it, they are not generated now. Makes me wonder why not? Stats are generated on everything else…

Obviously this was an unjustified shooting, no doubt about it.

But call me crazy…if I don’t resist or run from the police, I think my chances of getting shot go waaaaay down. Dunno, just a hunch.[/quote]

yeah. True. I advise you to submit.

if you freak out or resist or run you may be summarily executed.

As long as you obey we may allow you to live.[/quote]

Damn straight. In the heat of the moment all sorts of bad things happen. Right or wrong.

If I want to avoid an accidental or intentional shooting, I should stand right there and wait for my day in court.

By the way, isn’t this the guy who was delinquent on his child support payments but the police pulled him over driving his Mercedes with custom rims and tires? I have no sympathy for anyone who shirks their kids. None.

[scaredyclassic]

[quote=svelte][quote=scaredyclassic][quote=svelte]I think two things ought to happen soon:
(1) All officers required to wear body cameras
(2) There need to be national stats generated on police shootings – who, what, where,when. As I understand it, they are not generated now. Makes me wonder why not? Stats are generated on everything else…

Obviously this was an unjustified shooting, no doubt about it.

But call me crazy…if I don’t resist or run from the police, I think my chances of getting shot go waaaaay down. Dunno, just a hunch.[/quote]

yeah. True. I advise you to submit.

if you freak out or resist or run you may be summarily executed.

As long as you obey we may allow you to live.[/quote]

Damn straight. In the heat of the moment all sorts of bad things happen. Right or wrong.

If I want to avoid an accidental or intentional shooting, I should stand right there and wait for my day in court.

By the way, isn’t this the guy who was delinquent on his child support payments but the police pulled him over driving his Mercedes with custom rims and tires? I have no sympathy for anyone who shirks their kids. None.[/quote]

he was pulled over for a third brake light out, which under that state’s law, wasnt actually a law violation. cop pulled him over cause it was a black dude ina nice car.

even if you dont like guys not paying child support, we hould not be happy when they are shot dead cold in the street.

most countries dont even putyou in jail. deadbeat dad sounds good, but the system can be pretty harsh on a low earning dude…

http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2015/04/16/3647872/walter-scott-child-support/

[jeff303]

To the “just don’t do anything illegal” crowd, what about this case? Guy was shot trying to get his license out.

[Jazzman]

It is odd for an outsider like myself that the “gun culture” never enters this debate. And how ironic that a car was used in one of these now widely publicized unfortunate incidents. The argument goes, ‘why ban guns when cars kill more people?’

The question arises as to whether these events are on the rise, or are just getting publicized more. Is there some faintly fascist element lurking in the dark recesses of these apparently demented individuals? Or does media portrayal manipulate us into inventing such notions? Or do we need—in a warped kind of way— these kinds of apparently mal-adjusted individuals as an antidote to criminal sociopaths? A civilized society should tackle the immediate cause. It should remove the guns. It can then start to seek alternative solutions in social causes without the fear or armed confrontation and consequent unnecessary loss of life. If the net benefit saves only one life, then it is worth it. You would say that if it was your child.

If you don’t care and find it entertaining TV, then society should make you question your place in it.

[FlyerInHi]

Shouldn’t the police have ways to get suspects to submit without killing them?

BTW, svelte, I don’t think that Mercedes is worth anymore than a used Honda. Used Mercedes are pretty cheap.

[CA renter]

[quote=svelte][quote=flu]So what do you guys think about the latest thing that happened in Arizona with the cop running over an armed gunman? Justified?[/quote]

I haven’t watched the video, but if a guy is walking around with the rifle about to shoot someone, I think it is within the rights of the police to take the dude down. Even if that means with a cruiser.

Again, if I don’t want any trouble, I shouldn’t be doing anything illegal.[/quote]

Exactly right.

[FlyerInHi]

What about in states where there are open carry laws.
Do we assume that people walking around with guns are up to no good.

[svelte]

[quote=FlyerInHi]What about in states where there are open carry laws.
.[/quote]

You need to read up on the situation before you comment.

Also..you breezed right by the custom rims part…he can sell those effing things on craigslist, give his kids some of what he owes them, and ride on steel rims like I did when I had no dough! But to ride around with a customized ride with nice rims and tinted windows…nah….he should get himself an old POS (like I did when I was broke) and give his kids the difference. No sympathy from me!

Scaredy – you’re sounding more and more like a defense lawyer every day! If he got pulled over illegally, then he should STAND RIGHT THERE, let’em haul his ass in and get it thrown out in court! Maybe even sue the police and get a tidy bunch-o-cash! I’m all for that! But don’t run! That disrespects the very foundation of American society. If he thinks he got a raw deal, then plead his case in court, not via the Adida Hustle.

I’ve been shortchanged and even lied to by police before…I know they aren’t always honest or right. But I never ran. Never.

Do police have prejudices? You betcha, like every other white AND black AND Asian person in the United States. Every stinkin’ person!

But to assume it is a racial thing is a little too much for me to take.

Let me give you a real world example.

I typically don’t put front license plates on my sports cars, for a variety of reasons. I have driven that way for over 20 years during the day, at night, around bars, everywhere. Never been pulled over once for it. Never.

My sons and their friends emulated this and didn’t put the front plates on their cars when they were in high school. It seemed like monthly there were getting stopped for it…so much so they gave up and put the plates back on. They were ticked at me and the profiling that police were doing. They were young so of course they must be up to no good, right?

These boys were as lilly white as they come. They could never be mistaken for a person of color.

Now. Imagine the same cars, same driving patterns, same everything but turn my son and his friends black.

Do you suppose folks would be saying the cops were pulling them over due to racial profiling?

Do I think the young man should have been shot in SC? No I do not. The cop should stand trial and I bet he will rightly be convicted.

But I don’t have a lot of sympathy for the victim.

Before you all run off and misconstrue that comment, here is an analogy.

My heart gets heavy when I read of a person dying in a car accident that was not their fault. Pure bad luck, I feel bad for them.

But, when I hear of a person dying while skydiving, I don’t get a heavy heart. They knew their behavior was risky, they did it anyway. Oh well. I wish it didn’t happen, but no tears will be hitting my pillow. Same way I feel if someone runs from the police. Wish it wouldn’t have happened, cop should stand trial. But no tears on my pillow.

Tired of talking about this – I’m out.

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