OT: There are a lot of things that do NOT make sense.

[Ricechex]

MANmom and Fred0 = Marion

[NotCranky]

I can’t say I did really have any support either Enorah, but I might have gotten help in the case say I was involved in something significant. Besides, let’s say the girl gets to notify an aunt or uncle, who is to say those people are really constructive entities in her life? This all happens to fast to make those decisions. I think I stick with notify the parents, give the girl the choice and protection if she needs is but there should be some requirement like that she become emancipated or something like that.
If things are that bad it should be required but in case they are not that bad or could be improved by parental involvement, she shouldn’t have an easy way towards abortion in secrecy from the people who are likely the most important adults in her life.

[NotCranky]

I can’t say I did really have any support either Enorah, but I might have gotten help in the case say I was involved in something significant. Besides, let’s say the girl gets to notify an aunt or uncle, who is to say those people are really constructive entities in her life? This all happens to fast to make those decisions. I think I stick with notify the parents, give the girl the choice and protection if she needs is but there should be some requirement like that she become emancipated or something like that.
If things are that bad it should be required but in case they are not that bad or could be improved by parental involvement, she shouldn’t have an easy way towards abortion in secrecy from the people who are likely the most important adults in her life.

[NotCranky]

I can’t say I did really have any support either Enorah, but I might have gotten help in the case say I was involved in something significant. Besides, let’s say the girl gets to notify an aunt or uncle, who is to say those people are really constructive entities in her life? This all happens to fast to make those decisions. I think I stick with notify the parents, give the girl the choice and protection if she needs is but there should be some requirement like that she become emancipated or something like that.
If things are that bad it should be required but in case they are not that bad or could be improved by parental involvement, she shouldn’t have an easy way towards abortion in secrecy from the people who are likely the most important adults in her life.

[NotCranky]

I can’t say I did really have any support either Enorah, but I might have gotten help in the case say I was involved in something significant. Besides, let’s say the girl gets to notify an aunt or uncle, who is to say those people are really constructive entities in her life? This all happens to fast to make those decisions. I think I stick with notify the parents, give the girl the choice and protection if she needs is but there should be some requirement like that she become emancipated or something like that.
If things are that bad it should be required but in case they are not that bad or could be improved by parental involvement, she shouldn’t have an easy way towards abortion in secrecy from the people who are likely the most important adults in her life.

[NotCranky]

I can’t say I did really have any support either Enorah, but I might have gotten help in the case say I was involved in something significant. Besides, let’s say the girl gets to notify an aunt or uncle, who is to say those people are really constructive entities in her life? This all happens to fast to make those decisions. I think I stick with notify the parents, give the girl the choice and protection if she needs is but there should be some requirement like that she become emancipated or something like that.
If things are that bad it should be required but in case they are not that bad or could be improved by parental involvement, she shouldn’t have an easy way towards abortion in secrecy from the people who are likely the most important adults in her life.

[Enorah]

Such a slippery slope, legislating this kind of stuff.

I reached for help three times from the age of 14 on and was turned away with no real help given, by professionals.

It did not end until I left home at 16 and said I was not returning until the perpetrator was gone (stepfather).

He was gone in a week.

That is what it took for my mother to wake up. I can not imagine having to go to her if I were pregnant back then. Truthfully, I could not go to her for much of anything. She was absent, gone, emotionally.

The circumstances in my home were minor compared to what I have heard from many other people in my work first in child abuse prevention and now as a healer.

[Enorah]

Such a slippery slope, legislating this kind of stuff.

I reached for help three times from the age of 14 on and was turned away with no real help given, by professionals.

It did not end until I left home at 16 and said I was not returning until the perpetrator was gone (stepfather).

He was gone in a week.

That is what it took for my mother to wake up. I can not imagine having to go to her if I were pregnant back then. Truthfully, I could not go to her for much of anything. She was absent, gone, emotionally.

The circumstances in my home were minor compared to what I have heard from many other people in my work first in child abuse prevention and now as a healer.

[Enorah]

Such a slippery slope, legislating this kind of stuff.

I reached for help three times from the age of 14 on and was turned away with no real help given, by professionals.

It did not end until I left home at 16 and said I was not returning until the perpetrator was gone (stepfather).

He was gone in a week.

That is what it took for my mother to wake up. I can not imagine having to go to her if I were pregnant back then. Truthfully, I could not go to her for much of anything. She was absent, gone, emotionally.

The circumstances in my home were minor compared to what I have heard from many other people in my work first in child abuse prevention and now as a healer.

[Enorah]

Such a slippery slope, legislating this kind of stuff.

I reached for help three times from the age of 14 on and was turned away with no real help given, by professionals.

It did not end until I left home at 16 and said I was not returning until the perpetrator was gone (stepfather).

He was gone in a week.

That is what it took for my mother to wake up. I can not imagine having to go to her if I were pregnant back then. Truthfully, I could not go to her for much of anything. She was absent, gone, emotionally.

The circumstances in my home were minor compared to what I have heard from many other people in my work first in child abuse prevention and now as a healer.

[Enorah]

Such a slippery slope, legislating this kind of stuff.

I reached for help three times from the age of 14 on and was turned away with no real help given, by professionals.

It did not end until I left home at 16 and said I was not returning until the perpetrator was gone (stepfather).

He was gone in a week.

That is what it took for my mother to wake up. I can not imagine having to go to her if I were pregnant back then. Truthfully, I could not go to her for much of anything. She was absent, gone, emotionally.

The circumstances in my home were minor compared to what I have heard from many other people in my work first in child abuse prevention and now as a healer.

[Enorah]

[quote=fredo4]OK I give up. While we’re on the subject of abortion, here’s something I never knew before. It was always my impression that most abortions were performed while the embryo was just a ball of cells. Actually, you can’t get an abortion until you are about two months into a pregnancy so that they can see what they’re looking for before they remove it. Anyone here who has kids and has seen ultrasounds, knows how well developed a fetus is at two months. Pretty sad.[/quote]

That is flat out false

http://www.fwhc.org/qa/ab-early.htm

Abortion Question:
How early can I get an abortion?

Q: Is there is a waiting period before you can get an abortion? Do you have to be pregnant a few weeks or can it just be days after you find out you are pregnant?

R: Clinics and doctors vary on how soon you can get a first-trimester surgical abortion – usually it’s 6 weeks after your last menstrual period (LMP). The Abortion Pill is an option earlier in pregnancy, as soon as pregnancy can be determined by ultrasound (sonogram). This webpage compares the two types of early abortion.

[Enorah]

[quote=fredo4]OK I give up. While we’re on the subject of abortion, here’s something I never knew before. It was always my impression that most abortions were performed while the embryo was just a ball of cells. Actually, you can’t get an abortion until you are about two months into a pregnancy so that they can see what they’re looking for before they remove it. Anyone here who has kids and has seen ultrasounds, knows how well developed a fetus is at two months. Pretty sad.[/quote]

That is flat out false

http://www.fwhc.org/qa/ab-early.htm

Abortion Question:
How early can I get an abortion?

Q: Is there is a waiting period before you can get an abortion? Do you have to be pregnant a few weeks or can it just be days after you find out you are pregnant?

R: Clinics and doctors vary on how soon you can get a first-trimester surgical abortion – usually it’s 6 weeks after your last menstrual period (LMP). The Abortion Pill is an option earlier in pregnancy, as soon as pregnancy can be determined by ultrasound (sonogram). This webpage compares the two types of early abortion.

[Enorah]

[quote=fredo4]OK I give up. While we’re on the subject of abortion, here’s something I never knew before. It was always my impression that most abortions were performed while the embryo was just a ball of cells. Actually, you can’t get an abortion until you are about two months into a pregnancy so that they can see what they’re looking for before they remove it. Anyone here who has kids and has seen ultrasounds, knows how well developed a fetus is at two months. Pretty sad.[/quote]

That is flat out false

http://www.fwhc.org/qa/ab-early.htm

Abortion Question:
How early can I get an abortion?

Q: Is there is a waiting period before you can get an abortion? Do you have to be pregnant a few weeks or can it just be days after you find out you are pregnant?

R: Clinics and doctors vary on how soon you can get a first-trimester surgical abortion – usually it’s 6 weeks after your last menstrual period (LMP). The Abortion Pill is an option earlier in pregnancy, as soon as pregnancy can be determined by ultrasound (sonogram). This webpage compares the two types of early abortion.

[Enorah]

[quote=fredo4]OK I give up. While we’re on the subject of abortion, here’s something I never knew before. It was always my impression that most abortions were performed while the embryo was just a ball of cells. Actually, you can’t get an abortion until you are about two months into a pregnancy so that they can see what they’re looking for before they remove it. Anyone here who has kids and has seen ultrasounds, knows how well developed a fetus is at two months. Pretty sad.[/quote]

That is flat out false

http://www.fwhc.org/qa/ab-early.htm

Abortion Question:
How early can I get an abortion?

Q: Is there is a waiting period before you can get an abortion? Do you have to be pregnant a few weeks or can it just be days after you find out you are pregnant?

R: Clinics and doctors vary on how soon you can get a first-trimester surgical abortion – usually it’s 6 weeks after your last menstrual period (LMP). The Abortion Pill is an option earlier in pregnancy, as soon as pregnancy can be determined by ultrasound (sonogram). This webpage compares the two types of early abortion.

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