ot; romney’s 47% statement

[Anonymous]

Globalism is a problem, because of the values all people do NOT share, such as Sharia law, and property rights. I would like to see “Globalism” fail.

[zk]

[quote=Brutus]Spoken like a fatty. Fat fat fatty fat. You are fat.

Oh yeah? And in which issue of Playboy can we expect to see some lard-ass fat girl (with rolls of fat) posing nude for the drooling eyes of horny men everywhere?

Sure, there’s a few guys that like fat women, but they are a VERY small minority.

That’s because fat is not beautiful. Or healthy.[/quote]

Time to ban this loser, Rich.

For the record, Brutus, my body fat is 10.5%. Partly due to good genes and partly due to very strenuous exercise. The difference between us here is the same as it was on the topic of poor people. I understand what other people are going through and you are an angry, intolerant, ignorant, self-aggrandizing fool.

[Anonymous]

[quote=zk][quote=Brutus]Spoken like a fatty. Fat fat fatty fat. You are fat.

Oh yeah? And in which issue of Playboy can we expect to see some lard-ass fat girl (with rolls of fat) posing nude for the drooling eyes of horny men everywhere?

Sure, there’s a few guys that like fat women, but they are a VERY small minority.

That’s because fat is not beautiful. Or healthy.[/quote]

Time to ban this loser, Rich.

For the record, Brutus, my body fat is 10.5%. Partly due to good genes and partly due to very strenuous exercise. The difference between us here is the same as it was on the topic of poor people. I understand what other people are going through and you are an angry, intolerant, ignorant, self-aggrandizing fool.[/quote]

Actually, I have friends and family that are fat and I just keep my mouth shut when I’m around them. But what I want to do, here and elsewhere, anonymously, is kill the idea that has been perpetuated among fat people that “it’s okay to be fat. Fat is beautiful.”
It is no more okay to be fat than it is okay to be Bulemic or Anorexic. Obesity, like obsessive weight loss, is un-healthy and unattractive. It is NOT okay. It is BAD.

Let’s not normalize obesity with shows like “Mike and Molly” and other such crap.

I’ve been overweight before, and it wasn’t easy getting back on the right track. I don’t use fad diets (Atkins for instance) and I don’t blame it on my genes. My body fat is pretty good too, but it was better when I was 19.

To get the fat out of your body, you first have to get it out of your food. Then you have to control the amount of calories you get everyday, and then you have to exercise.
It really is that simple.

But when I go to the movies, I almost always see a man and woman buying huge tubs of popcorn slathered in butter, a couple of giant candy bars, and a five gallon soda. These massively obese people are usually accompanied by their porky little kids who are eating pretty much the same thing.
You can look forward to watching as your healthcare costs rise to pay for their inevitable health problems.

You don’t see it as much in California; people are generally thinner there. But here in New England, morbid obesity is MUCH more common. This fact was brought home to me recently on a trip to CA and back. After a week in CA, I flew to Boston and caught the shuttle to the parking lot. I sat down across from two absolutely MASSIVE women. On my right were two more MASSIVE obese women. Out of twelve people on the shuttle, Eight were obese, four of them morbidly so.

Now YOU tell ME that’s okay?

Maybe in your perverted vision of America it’s okay, but not in mine.

By the way, fat knows no ethnicity or political tendency.
There’s plenty of fat Republicans, Democrats, Black, White, Commies, Conservatives, and even Asians.

Hate the fat, not the person.
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And don’t shoot the messenger. Even if the message is harsh.
No one notices when you deliver bad news with a smiley face.

[ocrenter]

[quote=zk][quote=Brutus]Spoken like a fatty. Fat fat fatty fat. You are fat.

Oh yeah? And in which issue of Playboy can we expect to see some lard-ass fat girl (with rolls of fat) posing nude for the drooling eyes of horny men everywhere?

Sure, there’s a few guys that like fat women, but they are a VERY small minority.

That’s because fat is not beautiful. Or healthy.[/quote]

Time to ban this loser, Rich.

For the record, Brutus, my body fat is 10.5%. Partly due to good genes and partly due to very strenuous exercise. The difference between us here is the same as it was on the topic of poor people. I understand what other people are going through and you are an angry, intolerant, ignorant, self-aggrandizing fool.[/quote]

Brian/Brutus are now on my ignore list.

[Rich Toscano]

[quote=ocrenter]
Brian/Brutus are now on my ignore list.[/quote]

No need. I already warned Brutus to stop the name-calling once, and he went on to reply to an argument with this:

“Spoken like a fatty. Fat fat fatty fat. You are fat.”

Something tells me Brutus never made it onto the high school debate team.

(Ironically, I know the person he was replying to, and that person is very fit).

For the lawyers among you — I am not invoking the political threadjacking rule for this ban. Rather, I invoke the unspoken rule that applies to all of life: don’t act like an jerk.

Rich

PS – Despite their shared disdain for adipose tissue, Brutus and Brian sure seem like different people to me.

[zk]

[quote=Rich Toscano]
PS – Despite their shared disdain for adipose tissue, Brutus and Brian sure seem like different people to me.[/quote]

I totally agree with that. Brian seemed calm and measured. Brutus the opposite. Brian thoughtful if misguided (in my always-possibly-wrong opinion), and couldn’t resist a threadjack. Brutus a foaming-at-the-mouth pitbull with a fat little doll in its mouth that it wouldn’t (possibly couldn’t) let go.

[zk]

[quote=Brutus]
Hate the fat, not the person.
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[quote=Brutus]
It’s your fat mouth, blubber-butt.
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[quote=Brutus]
Spoken like a fatty. Fat fat fatty fat. You are fat.
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[quote=Brutus]
And don’t shoot the messenger. Even if the message is harsh.
No one notices when you deliver bad news with a smiley face.[/quote]

It’s not necessarily the harshness of your message that’s the problem, Brutus. It’s the fact that you don’t make any sense and you’re here for the wrong reason. As shown above, you’re just hateful and unaware of your inconsistency and your ignorance. It’s the fact that you spew venom that can’t be backed up as indicated by the fact that you ignore when it’s proven not to make sense and merely come back with more nonsense. You clearly aren’t here to discuss issues; you’re here to vent your anger. That’s not what this forum is for.

[scaredyclassic]

jekyll/hyde

[Anonymous]

[quote=zk][quote=Rich Toscano]
PS – Despite their shared disdain for adipose tissue, Brutus and Brian sure seem like different people to me.[/quote]

I totally agree with that. Brian seemed calm and measured. Brutus the opposite. Brian thoughtful if misguided (in my always-possibly-wrong opinion), and couldn’t resist a threadjack. Brutus a foaming-at-the-mouth pitbull with a fat little doll in its mouth that it wouldn’t (possibly couldn’t) let go.[/quote]

In spite of Brutus’ harsh words and attitude, he does have the facts about obesity on his side. If only he could have expressed them in a more civilized manner:
http://win.niddk.nih.gov/publications/health_risks.htm

http://kidshealth.org/teen/food_fitness/dieting/obesity.html

http://heartdisease.about.com/od/dietandobesity/a/obesity_bad.htm

I think the only way to fight this epidemic of obesity is through education. As people became more educated about the health risks of smoking, they began to quit or not start at all. But some people are still going to smoke no matter what, and I think the same will apply to overeating.
I would hate to think that overeating may someday be regulated out of existence by government fiat. We have enough regulations to guide our lives already.
Apeman

[an]

Fixing over eating is easy. Just tax food at an extreme level where people can only afford to buy a little bit of food. Obesity is a first world problem. The solution is to get people to eat like a third world person. You can’t really get them to do it voluntarily, so force them to do it. Kind of like what we are doing with cigarettes.

[ocrenter]

[quote=zk][quote=Rich Toscano]
PS – Despite their shared disdain for adipose tissue, Brutus and Brian sure seem like different people to me.[/quote]

I totally agree with that. Brian seemed calm and measured. Brutus the opposite. Brian thoughtful if misguided (in my always-possibly-wrong opinion), and couldn’t resist a threadjack. Brutus a foaming-at-the-mouth pitbull with a fat little doll in its mouth that it wouldn’t (possibly couldn’t) let go.[/quote]

I was looking at it as Brian simply playing Brutus as a caricature of a prototypical right wing nut job. Given his distaste of anyone on the political right, I can totally see him casting Brutus in such foaming-at-mouth way.

[ocrenter]

[quote=AN]Fixing over eating is easy. Just tax food at an extreme level where people can only afford to buy a little bit of food. Obesity is a first world problem. The solution is to get people to eat like a third world person. You can’t really get them to do it voluntarily, so force them to do it. Kind of like what we are doing with cigarettes.[/quote]

+1

if you think about it, the food industry is following the same playbook as the tobacco industry of the past. Government just need to dust off the same playbook as well.

we already have the same analogous pictures in front of congress. Tobacco industry sitting with a straight face stating that tobacco is not addictive. And food industry sitting with a straight face stating potato is a vegetable.

[scaredyclassic]

if you watch PARKS AND RECREATION, which i do on hulu, there’s been an interesting character development with the City Mgr, chris, played by rob lowe, that seems very applicable here.

that show is hilarious and would help inform many of our govt discussions.

anyway, rob lowe plays a fitness obsessed body fat freak who suddenly realizes all his exercise is covering up other issues. but it’s way more hilarious than Im describing. that is a funny show.

[scaredyclassic]

[quote=ocrenter][quote=zk][quote=Rich Toscano]
PS – Despite their shared disdain for adipose tissue, Brutus and Brian sure seem like different people to me.[/quote]

I totally agree with that. Brian seemed calm and measured. Brutus the opposite. Brian thoughtful if misguided (in my always-possibly-wrong opinion), and couldn’t resist a threadjack. Brutus a foaming-at-the-mouth pitbull with a fat little doll in its mouth that it wouldn’t (possibly couldn’t) let go.[/quote]

I was looking at it as Brian simply playing Brutus as a caricature of a prototypical right wing nut job. Given his distaste of anyone on the political right, I can totally see him casting Brutus in such foaming-at-mouth way.[/quote]

concur

[Rich Toscano]

[quote=Apeman]
In spite of Brutus’ harsh words and attitude, he does have the facts about obesity on his side. If only he could have expressed them in a more civilized manner:
http://win.niddk.nih.gov/publications/health_risks.htm

http://kidshealth.org/teen/food_fitness/dieting/obesity.html

http://heartdisease.about.com/od/dietandobesity/a/obesity_bad.htm

I think the only way to fight this epidemic of obesity is through education. As people became more educated about the health risks of smoking, they began to quit or not start at all. But some people are still going to smoke no matter what, and I think the same will apply to overeating.
I would hate to think that overeating may someday be regulated out of existence by government fiat. We have enough regulations to guide our lives already.
Apeman[/quote]

First of all, “Apeman,” it is obvious from your IP address that you are the same person as Brutus. As a result of your name-calling and overly combative demeanor, you aren’t welcome here any more. Creating a new account doesn’t change that.

Second, I like how you linked to a bunch of articles explaining that there are health risks associated with obesity. Thank you, Captain Obvious. That’s not what the argument was about at all; it was about how to approach the obesity epidemic*. Typical strawman approach employed by people who like to fight rather than discuss.

* – I believe your proposal was along the lines of repeatedly calling people “fatty fat fat,” and the problem would work itself out from there.

Please, go away now, and don’t bother creating more accounts.

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