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April 29, 2009 at 12:40 AM #390029April 29, 2009 at 1:58 AM #389360
partypup
Participant[quote=flu]You know. I’m not sure if the demise of the GOP is a good thing…Afterall, we’re seeing what happens when you don’t have enough GOP’s to balance all the ridiculous policies currently being proposed by Obama and passed by senate and house….
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Right on, flu. One party government doesn’t work for any of us. But sadly, we’re about to find out the hard way.
And by the way, when they’re staring down the barrel of a multi-trillion dollar deficit that will DOUBLE by the end of the fiscal year, why on earth are the Dems gloating about their ability to block a GOP filibuster? Do they seriously want their fingerprints – and only their fingerprints – all over this debacle? What nitwits. I can’t believe any party in their right mind would want to take complete responsibility for the catastrophe that will ensue after they pile steaming lumps of s*** on top of the huge pile that preceded them. But then again, we are talking about Democrats. Let’s not forget they only reason they won the White House – only the fourth time in as many decades – is because George Bush was a complete buffoon and easily the worst president in U.S. history.
April 29, 2009 at 1:58 AM #389626Participant[quote=flu]You know. I’m not sure if the demise of the GOP is a good thing…Afterall, we’re seeing what happens when you don’t have enough GOP’s to balance all the ridiculous policies currently being proposed by Obama and passed by senate and house….
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Right on, flu. One party government doesn’t work for any of us. But sadly, we’re about to find out the hard way.
And by the way, when they’re staring down the barrel of a multi-trillion dollar deficit that will DOUBLE by the end of the fiscal year, why on earth are the Dems gloating about their ability to block a GOP filibuster? Do they seriously want their fingerprints – and only their fingerprints – all over this debacle? What nitwits. I can’t believe any party in their right mind would want to take complete responsibility for the catastrophe that will ensue after they pile steaming lumps of s*** on top of the huge pile that preceded them. But then again, we are talking about Democrats. Let’s not forget they only reason they won the White House – only the fourth time in as many decades – is because George Bush was a complete buffoon and easily the worst president in U.S. history.
April 29, 2009 at 1:58 AM #389832Participant[quote=flu]You know. I’m not sure if the demise of the GOP is a good thing…Afterall, we’re seeing what happens when you don’t have enough GOP’s to balance all the ridiculous policies currently being proposed by Obama and passed by senate and house….
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Right on, flu. One party government doesn’t work for any of us. But sadly, we’re about to find out the hard way.
And by the way, when they’re staring down the barrel of a multi-trillion dollar deficit that will DOUBLE by the end of the fiscal year, why on earth are the Dems gloating about their ability to block a GOP filibuster? Do they seriously want their fingerprints – and only their fingerprints – all over this debacle? What nitwits. I can’t believe any party in their right mind would want to take complete responsibility for the catastrophe that will ensue after they pile steaming lumps of s*** on top of the huge pile that preceded them. But then again, we are talking about Democrats. Let’s not forget they only reason they won the White House – only the fourth time in as many decades – is because George Bush was a complete buffoon and easily the worst president in U.S. history.
April 29, 2009 at 1:58 AM #389883Participant[quote=flu]You know. I’m not sure if the demise of the GOP is a good thing…Afterall, we’re seeing what happens when you don’t have enough GOP’s to balance all the ridiculous policies currently being proposed by Obama and passed by senate and house….
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Right on, flu. One party government doesn’t work for any of us. But sadly, we’re about to find out the hard way.
And by the way, when they’re staring down the barrel of a multi-trillion dollar deficit that will DOUBLE by the end of the fiscal year, why on earth are the Dems gloating about their ability to block a GOP filibuster? Do they seriously want their fingerprints – and only their fingerprints – all over this debacle? What nitwits. I can’t believe any party in their right mind would want to take complete responsibility for the catastrophe that will ensue after they pile steaming lumps of s*** on top of the huge pile that preceded them. But then again, we are talking about Democrats. Let’s not forget they only reason they won the White House – only the fourth time in as many decades – is because George Bush was a complete buffoon and easily the worst president in U.S. history.
April 29, 2009 at 1:58 AM #390024Participant[quote=flu]You know. I’m not sure if the demise of the GOP is a good thing…Afterall, we’re seeing what happens when you don’t have enough GOP’s to balance all the ridiculous policies currently being proposed by Obama and passed by senate and house….
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Right on, flu. One party government doesn’t work for any of us. But sadly, we’re about to find out the hard way.
And by the way, when they’re staring down the barrel of a multi-trillion dollar deficit that will DOUBLE by the end of the fiscal year, why on earth are the Dems gloating about their ability to block a GOP filibuster? Do they seriously want their fingerprints – and only their fingerprints – all over this debacle? What nitwits. I can’t believe any party in their right mind would want to take complete responsibility for the catastrophe that will ensue after they pile steaming lumps of s*** on top of the huge pile that preceded them. But then again, we are talking about Democrats. Let’s not forget they only reason they won the White House – only the fourth time in as many decades – is because George Bush was a complete buffoon and easily the worst president in U.S. history.
April 29, 2009 at 6:29 AM #389395felix
Participant[quote=partypup][quote=ocrenter]no, the demise of the GOP is definitely not a good thing.
moderates will continue their exit, leaving the party firmly and fully in the Christian Right. The Christian Right GOP will pick Palin for 2012, Obama wins 70% of the popular vote.
Two possibilities after the 2012 landslide:
#1. moderate Republicans regroup and form a new party of the center. GOP stays and linger on as a fringe party.
#2. moderate Republicans retake the party after the complete collapse, re-establishing the two party system. [/quote]
Possibility #3: The recession/depression doesn’t end in 2011 and instead deepens. Obama is credited for worsening a downturn that could have been “fixed” by the GOP. Fingers will point to profligate spending and a series of failed bailouts/stimulus packages that eventually lead to a massive devaluation of the dollar and runaway, Carter-style inflation.
The GOP easily takes back the White House in 2012, re-claiming OH, FL and MI, which have been royally hammered by the GM and Chrysler bankruptcies and the housing collapse. Unfortunately for the GOP, the crisis worsens, and it soon becomes clear to everyone that they are just as inept at solving the crisis as Obama was.
The Dems look poised to take back the White House in 2016 — until Americans finally wake the hell up and realize that they are in the middle of a second great depression caused by the incompetence and greed of both parties – who have played voters like suckers on this see saw for the better part of the past century.
Revolution to follow.
[/quote]That is why folks need to realize that we are wasting time and breath arguing about a balance of right and left when we should be seeking a balance between no government and total government.
With Obama we are on a fast track toward more and more government. Government will soon be controlling the majority of our economy. That can’t make any rational working person feel good when you see how government runs Amtrak, Social Security and seems to find new and more outrageous ways to overspend for almost everything from toilet seats to roads.
Folks need to realize the Dem party and the Rep party and most of the pols that populate those parties are more the same then they are different. Both parties have the same goal which is to self perpetuate and to gain more and more control over your life. While they may seek this control in the different ways they pursue votes, make no mistake both parties want to control your money if not your life.
Specter’s switch has made the situation politically for all of us, much worse, as one of the checks on total power (filibuster) may have been lifted. His betrayal of Pennsylvania voters was political pragmatism at it’s worse.
April 29, 2009 at 6:29 AM #389661Participant[quote=partypup][quote=ocrenter]no, the demise of the GOP is definitely not a good thing.
moderates will continue their exit, leaving the party firmly and fully in the Christian Right. The Christian Right GOP will pick Palin for 2012, Obama wins 70% of the popular vote.
Two possibilities after the 2012 landslide:
#1. moderate Republicans regroup and form a new party of the center. GOP stays and linger on as a fringe party.
#2. moderate Republicans retake the party after the complete collapse, re-establishing the two party system. [/quote]
Possibility #3: The recession/depression doesn’t end in 2011 and instead deepens. Obama is credited for worsening a downturn that could have been “fixed” by the GOP. Fingers will point to profligate spending and a series of failed bailouts/stimulus packages that eventually lead to a massive devaluation of the dollar and runaway, Carter-style inflation.
The GOP easily takes back the White House in 2012, re-claiming OH, FL and MI, which have been royally hammered by the GM and Chrysler bankruptcies and the housing collapse. Unfortunately for the GOP, the crisis worsens, and it soon becomes clear to everyone that they are just as inept at solving the crisis as Obama was.
The Dems look poised to take back the White House in 2016 — until Americans finally wake the hell up and realize that they are in the middle of a second great depression caused by the incompetence and greed of both parties – who have played voters like suckers on this see saw for the better part of the past century.
Revolution to follow.
[/quote]That is why folks need to realize that we are wasting time and breath arguing about a balance of right and left when we should be seeking a balance between no government and total government.
With Obama we are on a fast track toward more and more government. Government will soon be controlling the majority of our economy. That can’t make any rational working person feel good when you see how government runs Amtrak, Social Security and seems to find new and more outrageous ways to overspend for almost everything from toilet seats to roads.
Folks need to realize the Dem party and the Rep party and most of the pols that populate those parties are more the same then they are different. Both parties have the same goal which is to self perpetuate and to gain more and more control over your life. While they may seek this control in the different ways they pursue votes, make no mistake both parties want to control your money if not your life.
Specter’s switch has made the situation politically for all of us, much worse, as one of the checks on total power (filibuster) may have been lifted. His betrayal of Pennsylvania voters was political pragmatism at it’s worse.
April 29, 2009 at 6:29 AM #389867Participant[quote=partypup][quote=ocrenter]no, the demise of the GOP is definitely not a good thing.
moderates will continue their exit, leaving the party firmly and fully in the Christian Right. The Christian Right GOP will pick Palin for 2012, Obama wins 70% of the popular vote.
Two possibilities after the 2012 landslide:
#1. moderate Republicans regroup and form a new party of the center. GOP stays and linger on as a fringe party.
#2. moderate Republicans retake the party after the complete collapse, re-establishing the two party system. [/quote]
Possibility #3: The recession/depression doesn’t end in 2011 and instead deepens. Obama is credited for worsening a downturn that could have been “fixed” by the GOP. Fingers will point to profligate spending and a series of failed bailouts/stimulus packages that eventually lead to a massive devaluation of the dollar and runaway, Carter-style inflation.
The GOP easily takes back the White House in 2012, re-claiming OH, FL and MI, which have been royally hammered by the GM and Chrysler bankruptcies and the housing collapse. Unfortunately for the GOP, the crisis worsens, and it soon becomes clear to everyone that they are just as inept at solving the crisis as Obama was.
The Dems look poised to take back the White House in 2016 — until Americans finally wake the hell up and realize that they are in the middle of a second great depression caused by the incompetence and greed of both parties – who have played voters like suckers on this see saw for the better part of the past century.
Revolution to follow.
[/quote]That is why folks need to realize that we are wasting time and breath arguing about a balance of right and left when we should be seeking a balance between no government and total government.
With Obama we are on a fast track toward more and more government. Government will soon be controlling the majority of our economy. That can’t make any rational working person feel good when you see how government runs Amtrak, Social Security and seems to find new and more outrageous ways to overspend for almost everything from toilet seats to roads.
Folks need to realize the Dem party and the Rep party and most of the pols that populate those parties are more the same then they are different. Both parties have the same goal which is to self perpetuate and to gain more and more control over your life. While they may seek this control in the different ways they pursue votes, make no mistake both parties want to control your money if not your life.
Specter’s switch has made the situation politically for all of us, much worse, as one of the checks on total power (filibuster) may have been lifted. His betrayal of Pennsylvania voters was political pragmatism at it’s worse.
April 29, 2009 at 6:29 AM #389918Participant[quote=partypup][quote=ocrenter]no, the demise of the GOP is definitely not a good thing.
moderates will continue their exit, leaving the party firmly and fully in the Christian Right. The Christian Right GOP will pick Palin for 2012, Obama wins 70% of the popular vote.
Two possibilities after the 2012 landslide:
#1. moderate Republicans regroup and form a new party of the center. GOP stays and linger on as a fringe party.
#2. moderate Republicans retake the party after the complete collapse, re-establishing the two party system. [/quote]
Possibility #3: The recession/depression doesn’t end in 2011 and instead deepens. Obama is credited for worsening a downturn that could have been “fixed” by the GOP. Fingers will point to profligate spending and a series of failed bailouts/stimulus packages that eventually lead to a massive devaluation of the dollar and runaway, Carter-style inflation.
The GOP easily takes back the White House in 2012, re-claiming OH, FL and MI, which have been royally hammered by the GM and Chrysler bankruptcies and the housing collapse. Unfortunately for the GOP, the crisis worsens, and it soon becomes clear to everyone that they are just as inept at solving the crisis as Obama was.
The Dems look poised to take back the White House in 2016 — until Americans finally wake the hell up and realize that they are in the middle of a second great depression caused by the incompetence and greed of both parties – who have played voters like suckers on this see saw for the better part of the past century.
Revolution to follow.
[/quote]That is why folks need to realize that we are wasting time and breath arguing about a balance of right and left when we should be seeking a balance between no government and total government.
With Obama we are on a fast track toward more and more government. Government will soon be controlling the majority of our economy. That can’t make any rational working person feel good when you see how government runs Amtrak, Social Security and seems to find new and more outrageous ways to overspend for almost everything from toilet seats to roads.
Folks need to realize the Dem party and the Rep party and most of the pols that populate those parties are more the same then they are different. Both parties have the same goal which is to self perpetuate and to gain more and more control over your life. While they may seek this control in the different ways they pursue votes, make no mistake both parties want to control your money if not your life.
Specter’s switch has made the situation politically for all of us, much worse, as one of the checks on total power (filibuster) may have been lifted. His betrayal of Pennsylvania voters was political pragmatism at it’s worse.
April 29, 2009 at 6:29 AM #390059Participant[quote=partypup][quote=ocrenter]no, the demise of the GOP is definitely not a good thing.
moderates will continue their exit, leaving the party firmly and fully in the Christian Right. The Christian Right GOP will pick Palin for 2012, Obama wins 70% of the popular vote.
Two possibilities after the 2012 landslide:
#1. moderate Republicans regroup and form a new party of the center. GOP stays and linger on as a fringe party.
#2. moderate Republicans retake the party after the complete collapse, re-establishing the two party system. [/quote]
Possibility #3: The recession/depression doesn’t end in 2011 and instead deepens. Obama is credited for worsening a downturn that could have been “fixed” by the GOP. Fingers will point to profligate spending and a series of failed bailouts/stimulus packages that eventually lead to a massive devaluation of the dollar and runaway, Carter-style inflation.
The GOP easily takes back the White House in 2012, re-claiming OH, FL and MI, which have been royally hammered by the GM and Chrysler bankruptcies and the housing collapse. Unfortunately for the GOP, the crisis worsens, and it soon becomes clear to everyone that they are just as inept at solving the crisis as Obama was.
The Dems look poised to take back the White House in 2016 — until Americans finally wake the hell up and realize that they are in the middle of a second great depression caused by the incompetence and greed of both parties – who have played voters like suckers on this see saw for the better part of the past century.
Revolution to follow.
[/quote]That is why folks need to realize that we are wasting time and breath arguing about a balance of right and left when we should be seeking a balance between no government and total government.
With Obama we are on a fast track toward more and more government. Government will soon be controlling the majority of our economy. That can’t make any rational working person feel good when you see how government runs Amtrak, Social Security and seems to find new and more outrageous ways to overspend for almost everything from toilet seats to roads.
Folks need to realize the Dem party and the Rep party and most of the pols that populate those parties are more the same then they are different. Both parties have the same goal which is to self perpetuate and to gain more and more control over your life. While they may seek this control in the different ways they pursue votes, make no mistake both parties want to control your money if not your life.
Specter’s switch has made the situation politically for all of us, much worse, as one of the checks on total power (filibuster) may have been lifted. His betrayal of Pennsylvania voters was political pragmatism at it’s worse.
April 29, 2009 at 9:51 AM #389475luchabee
ParticipantAs a very proud member of the Christian Right, I’m pretty sure we will not be picking Palin again.
I’d put my money on Huckabee, Romney (long-shot), or some other new business-friendly candidate.
Palin was a terrible pick on so many levels, including her accent and lack of academic and business credentials. Sorry, I doubt the Democrats will have Palin to kick around this time.
I do think it is hilarious about the canard of the Republican Party becoming more conservative. If anything under Bush, we got more liberal, as least with respect to government spending. Moroever, the Democrat Party is hardly the Democrat Party of Kennedy.
April 29, 2009 at 9:51 AM #389740ParticipantAs a very proud member of the Christian Right, I’m pretty sure we will not be picking Palin again.
I’d put my money on Huckabee, Romney (long-shot), or some other new business-friendly candidate.
Palin was a terrible pick on so many levels, including her accent and lack of academic and business credentials. Sorry, I doubt the Democrats will have Palin to kick around this time.
I do think it is hilarious about the canard of the Republican Party becoming more conservative. If anything under Bush, we got more liberal, as least with respect to government spending. Moroever, the Democrat Party is hardly the Democrat Party of Kennedy.
April 29, 2009 at 9:51 AM #389947ParticipantAs a very proud member of the Christian Right, I’m pretty sure we will not be picking Palin again.
I’d put my money on Huckabee, Romney (long-shot), or some other new business-friendly candidate.
Palin was a terrible pick on so many levels, including her accent and lack of academic and business credentials. Sorry, I doubt the Democrats will have Palin to kick around this time.
I do think it is hilarious about the canard of the Republican Party becoming more conservative. If anything under Bush, we got more liberal, as least with respect to government spending. Moroever, the Democrat Party is hardly the Democrat Party of Kennedy.
April 29, 2009 at 9:51 AM #389998ParticipantAs a very proud member of the Christian Right, I’m pretty sure we will not be picking Palin again.
I’d put my money on Huckabee, Romney (long-shot), or some other new business-friendly candidate.
Palin was a terrible pick on so many levels, including her accent and lack of academic and business credentials. Sorry, I doubt the Democrats will have Palin to kick around this time.
I do think it is hilarious about the canard of the Republican Party becoming more conservative. If anything under Bush, we got more liberal, as least with respect to government spending. Moroever, the Democrat Party is hardly the Democrat Party of Kennedy.
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