OT: Public pay & benefits

[sdrealtor]

Please dont compare the FDNY with the FD of Encinitas or even SD. Let’s try to compare the FD of Encinitas with a comparable suburb back east.

As for the danger. Back east they deal with structure fire in centuries old buildings on a regular basis. Firefighters in urban areas back east are in these buildings almost daily. How often do firefighters deal with brush fires of any real size around here? We have major wild fires every few years around here not everyday.

As for the $150K number, I know it includes quite a bit of overtime but what percentage of firefighters work quite a bit of overtime. My guess would be the vast majority of them. Following up on that overtime, how much of it is spent actively fighting fires and how much is spent in the station on duty.

Again, I have nothing against firefighters or them being well paid. I just think the money and benefits they get around here is obscene.

[Coronita]

[quote=davelj]

I’ve got a dumb question about this chart. Does this mean that, for example, Sherri Lightner could serve on the City Council for, say, 5 years and leave with a pension of $21K annually? So, she could pick up a “lifetime benefit” worth over $500K (or $100K per year of service) for serving on the City Council for a handful of years? Am I reading that correctly?[/quote]

Yup… though I believe the magic number is 8 years of service…for a lifetime pension of the listed amount. Todd Gloria (30ish has it made)….

Again, not sure I understand how “stressful/dangerous” this job could be….

Like i said, when/if I sell my company and semi- retire, I think I’m going to run for city council….

[Coronita]

[quote=davelj]

I’ve got a dumb question about this chart. Does this mean that, for example, Sherri Lightner could serve on the City Council for, say, 5 years and leave with a pension of $21K annually? So, she could pick up a “lifetime benefit” worth over $500K (or $100K per year of service) for serving on the City Council for a handful of years? Am I reading that correctly?[/quote]

Yup… though I believe the magic number is 8 years of service…for a lifetime pension of the listed amount. Todd Gloria (30ish has it made)….

Again, not sure I understand how “stressful/dangerous” this job could be….

Like i said, when/if I sell my company and semi- retire, I think I’m going to run for city council….

[Coronita]

[quote=davelj]

I’ve got a dumb question about this chart. Does this mean that, for example, Sherri Lightner could serve on the City Council for, say, 5 years and leave with a pension of $21K annually? So, she could pick up a “lifetime benefit” worth over $500K (or $100K per year of service) for serving on the City Council for a handful of years? Am I reading that correctly?[/quote]

Yup… though I believe the magic number is 8 years of service…for a lifetime pension of the listed amount. Todd Gloria (30ish has it made)….

Again, not sure I understand how “stressful/dangerous” this job could be….

Like i said, when/if I sell my company and semi- retire, I think I’m going to run for city council….

[Coronita]

[quote=davelj]

I’ve got a dumb question about this chart. Does this mean that, for example, Sherri Lightner could serve on the City Council for, say, 5 years and leave with a pension of $21K annually? So, she could pick up a “lifetime benefit” worth over $500K (or $100K per year of service) for serving on the City Council for a handful of years? Am I reading that correctly?[/quote]

Yup… though I believe the magic number is 8 years of service…for a lifetime pension of the listed amount. Todd Gloria (30ish has it made)….

Again, not sure I understand how “stressful/dangerous” this job could be….

Like i said, when/if I sell my company and semi- retire, I think I’m going to run for city council….

[Coronita]

[quote=davelj]

I’ve got a dumb question about this chart. Does this mean that, for example, Sherri Lightner could serve on the City Council for, say, 5 years and leave with a pension of $21K annually? So, she could pick up a “lifetime benefit” worth over $500K (or $100K per year of service) for serving on the City Council for a handful of years? Am I reading that correctly?[/quote]

Yup… though I believe the magic number is 8 years of service…for a lifetime pension of the listed amount. Todd Gloria (30ish has it made)….

Again, not sure I understand how “stressful/dangerous” this job could be….

Like i said, when/if I sell my company and semi- retire, I think I’m going to run for city council….

[davelj]

[quote=flu][quote=davelj]

I’ve got a dumb question about this chart. Does this mean that, for example, Sherri Lightner could serve on the City Council for, say, 5 years and leave with a pension of $21K annually? So, she could pick up a “lifetime benefit” worth over $500K (or $100K per year of service) for serving on the City Council for a handful of years? Am I reading that correctly?[/quote]

Yup… though I believe the magic number is 8 years of service…for a lifetime pension of the listed amount. Todd Gloria (30ish has it made)….

Again, not sure I understand how “stressful/dangerous” this job could be….

Like i said, when/if I sell my company and semi- retire, I think I’m going to run for city council….[/quote]

Another dumb question. Is the city council a full-time job? I thought it was part-time. Why don’t they just pay these folks an extra $20K each year they’re on the city council and bag the retirement package altogether? All of these freaks are still going to run for office.

[davelj]

[quote=flu][quote=davelj]

I’ve got a dumb question about this chart. Does this mean that, for example, Sherri Lightner could serve on the City Council for, say, 5 years and leave with a pension of $21K annually? So, she could pick up a “lifetime benefit” worth over $500K (or $100K per year of service) for serving on the City Council for a handful of years? Am I reading that correctly?[/quote]

Yup… though I believe the magic number is 8 years of service…for a lifetime pension of the listed amount. Todd Gloria (30ish has it made)….

Again, not sure I understand how “stressful/dangerous” this job could be….

Like i said, when/if I sell my company and semi- retire, I think I’m going to run for city council….[/quote]

Another dumb question. Is the city council a full-time job? I thought it was part-time. Why don’t they just pay these folks an extra $20K each year they’re on the city council and bag the retirement package altogether? All of these freaks are still going to run for office.

[davelj]

[quote=flu][quote=davelj]

I’ve got a dumb question about this chart. Does this mean that, for example, Sherri Lightner could serve on the City Council for, say, 5 years and leave with a pension of $21K annually? So, she could pick up a “lifetime benefit” worth over $500K (or $100K per year of service) for serving on the City Council for a handful of years? Am I reading that correctly?[/quote]

Yup… though I believe the magic number is 8 years of service…for a lifetime pension of the listed amount. Todd Gloria (30ish has it made)….

Again, not sure I understand how “stressful/dangerous” this job could be….

Like i said, when/if I sell my company and semi- retire, I think I’m going to run for city council….[/quote]

Another dumb question. Is the city council a full-time job? I thought it was part-time. Why don’t they just pay these folks an extra $20K each year they’re on the city council and bag the retirement package altogether? All of these freaks are still going to run for office.

[davelj]

[quote=flu][quote=davelj]

I’ve got a dumb question about this chart. Does this mean that, for example, Sherri Lightner could serve on the City Council for, say, 5 years and leave with a pension of $21K annually? So, she could pick up a “lifetime benefit” worth over $500K (or $100K per year of service) for serving on the City Council for a handful of years? Am I reading that correctly?[/quote]

Yup… though I believe the magic number is 8 years of service…for a lifetime pension of the listed amount. Todd Gloria (30ish has it made)….

Again, not sure I understand how “stressful/dangerous” this job could be….

Like i said, when/if I sell my company and semi- retire, I think I’m going to run for city council….[/quote]

Another dumb question. Is the city council a full-time job? I thought it was part-time. Why don’t they just pay these folks an extra $20K each year they’re on the city council and bag the retirement package altogether? All of these freaks are still going to run for office.

[davelj]

[quote=flu][quote=davelj]

I’ve got a dumb question about this chart. Does this mean that, for example, Sherri Lightner could serve on the City Council for, say, 5 years and leave with a pension of $21K annually? So, she could pick up a “lifetime benefit” worth over $500K (or $100K per year of service) for serving on the City Council for a handful of years? Am I reading that correctly?[/quote]

Yup… though I believe the magic number is 8 years of service…for a lifetime pension of the listed amount. Todd Gloria (30ish has it made)….

Again, not sure I understand how “stressful/dangerous” this job could be….

Like i said, when/if I sell my company and semi- retire, I think I’m going to run for city council….[/quote]

Another dumb question. Is the city council a full-time job? I thought it was part-time. Why don’t they just pay these folks an extra $20K each year they’re on the city council and bag the retirement package altogether? All of these freaks are still going to run for office.

[UCGal]

[quote=davelj]
Another dumb question. Is the city council a full-time job? I thought it was part-time. Why don’t they just pay these folks an extra $20K each year they’re on the city council and bag the retirement package altogether? All of these freaks are still going to run for office.[/quote]

They have public/open meetings on Mon/Tue. I assume they have the occasional close door meetings, less often. I think the # of hours put in depends on the council person… Mine doesn’t seem to put in a lot of hours… I’m not impressed.

Your idea to just bag the pension and give them the cash is a winner. You’re right – they’d still run for office.

[UCGal]

[quote=davelj]
Another dumb question. Is the city council a full-time job? I thought it was part-time. Why don’t they just pay these folks an extra $20K each year they’re on the city council and bag the retirement package altogether? All of these freaks are still going to run for office.[/quote]

They have public/open meetings on Mon/Tue. I assume they have the occasional close door meetings, less often. I think the # of hours put in depends on the council person… Mine doesn’t seem to put in a lot of hours… I’m not impressed.

Your idea to just bag the pension and give them the cash is a winner. You’re right – they’d still run for office.

[UCGal]

[quote=davelj]
Another dumb question. Is the city council a full-time job? I thought it was part-time. Why don’t they just pay these folks an extra $20K each year they’re on the city council and bag the retirement package altogether? All of these freaks are still going to run for office.[/quote]

They have public/open meetings on Mon/Tue. I assume they have the occasional close door meetings, less often. I think the # of hours put in depends on the council person… Mine doesn’t seem to put in a lot of hours… I’m not impressed.

Your idea to just bag the pension and give them the cash is a winner. You’re right – they’d still run for office.

[UCGal]

[quote=davelj]
Another dumb question. Is the city council a full-time job? I thought it was part-time. Why don’t they just pay these folks an extra $20K each year they’re on the city council and bag the retirement package altogether? All of these freaks are still going to run for office.[/quote]

They have public/open meetings on Mon/Tue. I assume they have the occasional close door meetings, less often. I think the # of hours put in depends on the council person… Mine doesn’t seem to put in a lot of hours… I’m not impressed.

Your idea to just bag the pension and give them the cash is a winner. You’re right – they’d still run for office.

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