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March 17, 2011 at 4:27 PM #679197March 17, 2011 at 5:13 PM #678085
Allan from Fallbrook
ParticipantZk: No, I wasn’t comparing the Left to the Right at all. I was responding to LilBigGubment’s (ILoveRegulation) vitriolic spew directed at the “idiotbertarian” brigade of “morons” and their/our supposed “fear of facts”.
Coming from someone that believes that: (1) Chernobyl killed millions of people and (2) that deadly radiation is heading our way (look out!) and who attempts to shout down the opposition (telling FLU to STFU), well, it just pissed me off and I fired back.
And, I’m no shill for the Right, either. I’m a conservative and there is a huge friggin’ difference. Which means I find Limbaugh and Palin equally as irritating as I find Maddow and Pelosi. To say that I cannot stand Leftists is not an automatic endorsement of the Right. Like I tell my kids: I’m not a racist, I’m a bigot. I hate everybody equally.
This person, like other dyed-in-the-wool Leftists on this board (i.e. IForget, TheBreeze, BigGovernmentIsGood, etc) is unable to debate using the facts and resorts to childish and petty ad hominem when confronted. It gets tiresome after a while.
March 17, 2011 at 5:13 PM #678139ParticipantZk: No, I wasn’t comparing the Left to the Right at all. I was responding to LilBigGubment’s (ILoveRegulation) vitriolic spew directed at the “idiotbertarian” brigade of “morons” and their/our supposed “fear of facts”.
Coming from someone that believes that: (1) Chernobyl killed millions of people and (2) that deadly radiation is heading our way (look out!) and who attempts to shout down the opposition (telling FLU to STFU), well, it just pissed me off and I fired back.
And, I’m no shill for the Right, either. I’m a conservative and there is a huge friggin’ difference. Which means I find Limbaugh and Palin equally as irritating as I find Maddow and Pelosi. To say that I cannot stand Leftists is not an automatic endorsement of the Right. Like I tell my kids: I’m not a racist, I’m a bigot. I hate everybody equally.
This person, like other dyed-in-the-wool Leftists on this board (i.e. IForget, TheBreeze, BigGovernmentIsGood, etc) is unable to debate using the facts and resorts to childish and petty ad hominem when confronted. It gets tiresome after a while.
March 17, 2011 at 5:13 PM #678741ParticipantZk: No, I wasn’t comparing the Left to the Right at all. I was responding to LilBigGubment’s (ILoveRegulation) vitriolic spew directed at the “idiotbertarian” brigade of “morons” and their/our supposed “fear of facts”.
Coming from someone that believes that: (1) Chernobyl killed millions of people and (2) that deadly radiation is heading our way (look out!) and who attempts to shout down the opposition (telling FLU to STFU), well, it just pissed me off and I fired back.
And, I’m no shill for the Right, either. I’m a conservative and there is a huge friggin’ difference. Which means I find Limbaugh and Palin equally as irritating as I find Maddow and Pelosi. To say that I cannot stand Leftists is not an automatic endorsement of the Right. Like I tell my kids: I’m not a racist, I’m a bigot. I hate everybody equally.
This person, like other dyed-in-the-wool Leftists on this board (i.e. IForget, TheBreeze, BigGovernmentIsGood, etc) is unable to debate using the facts and resorts to childish and petty ad hominem when confronted. It gets tiresome after a while.
March 17, 2011 at 5:13 PM #678876ParticipantZk: No, I wasn’t comparing the Left to the Right at all. I was responding to LilBigGubment’s (ILoveRegulation) vitriolic spew directed at the “idiotbertarian” brigade of “morons” and their/our supposed “fear of facts”.
Coming from someone that believes that: (1) Chernobyl killed millions of people and (2) that deadly radiation is heading our way (look out!) and who attempts to shout down the opposition (telling FLU to STFU), well, it just pissed me off and I fired back.
And, I’m no shill for the Right, either. I’m a conservative and there is a huge friggin’ difference. Which means I find Limbaugh and Palin equally as irritating as I find Maddow and Pelosi. To say that I cannot stand Leftists is not an automatic endorsement of the Right. Like I tell my kids: I’m not a racist, I’m a bigot. I hate everybody equally.
This person, like other dyed-in-the-wool Leftists on this board (i.e. IForget, TheBreeze, BigGovernmentIsGood, etc) is unable to debate using the facts and resorts to childish and petty ad hominem when confronted. It gets tiresome after a while.
March 17, 2011 at 5:13 PM #679217ParticipantZk: No, I wasn’t comparing the Left to the Right at all. I was responding to LilBigGubment’s (ILoveRegulation) vitriolic spew directed at the “idiotbertarian” brigade of “morons” and their/our supposed “fear of facts”.
Coming from someone that believes that: (1) Chernobyl killed millions of people and (2) that deadly radiation is heading our way (look out!) and who attempts to shout down the opposition (telling FLU to STFU), well, it just pissed me off and I fired back.
And, I’m no shill for the Right, either. I’m a conservative and there is a huge friggin’ difference. Which means I find Limbaugh and Palin equally as irritating as I find Maddow and Pelosi. To say that I cannot stand Leftists is not an automatic endorsement of the Right. Like I tell my kids: I’m not a racist, I’m a bigot. I hate everybody equally.
This person, like other dyed-in-the-wool Leftists on this board (i.e. IForget, TheBreeze, BigGovernmentIsGood, etc) is unable to debate using the facts and resorts to childish and petty ad hominem when confronted. It gets tiresome after a while.
March 17, 2011 at 5:32 PM #678090Participant[quote=zk]
Leftists are angry and scared by facts? Compared to those on the right (who else would you be comparing them to)? I don’t want to start a slap fight, and I usually respect what you’re saying, Alan, but please tell me you’re kidding. Listen to those on the right and you hear constant, visceral anger. Both extremes have trouble with facts (although I’d give the right the edge for being afraid of facts). But when it comes to anger, the right wins by an enormous margin.[/quote]Zk: Would you indulge me on something? I’ve taken the liberty of attaching Bob Cesca’s Huffingtonpost article on why the Obama Administration needs to abandon its nuke energy policy. Bob is the host of “The Bob and Elvis Show” and thus in an excellent position to comment intelligently on nuke power. I ask that you read this article, which contains specious “facts”, personal anecdotes, along with using an episode of “The West Wing” (WTF?) to support his argument, and tell me that its a good example of what passes for worthwhile “journalism”. The Comments section following the article is an equally good read, as its utterly devoid of meaningful solutions and instead beats the green drum of “New Energy Solutions” (most of which aren’t new at all).
When finished, please tell me again about the Left’s command and comprehension of “facts”.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/bob-cesca/the-obama-administration_b_836913.html
March 17, 2011 at 5:32 PM #678144Participant[quote=zk]
Leftists are angry and scared by facts? Compared to those on the right (who else would you be comparing them to)? I don’t want to start a slap fight, and I usually respect what you’re saying, Alan, but please tell me you’re kidding. Listen to those on the right and you hear constant, visceral anger. Both extremes have trouble with facts (although I’d give the right the edge for being afraid of facts). But when it comes to anger, the right wins by an enormous margin.[/quote]Zk: Would you indulge me on something? I’ve taken the liberty of attaching Bob Cesca’s Huffingtonpost article on why the Obama Administration needs to abandon its nuke energy policy. Bob is the host of “The Bob and Elvis Show” and thus in an excellent position to comment intelligently on nuke power. I ask that you read this article, which contains specious “facts”, personal anecdotes, along with using an episode of “The West Wing” (WTF?) to support his argument, and tell me that its a good example of what passes for worthwhile “journalism”. The Comments section following the article is an equally good read, as its utterly devoid of meaningful solutions and instead beats the green drum of “New Energy Solutions” (most of which aren’t new at all).
When finished, please tell me again about the Left’s command and comprehension of “facts”.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/bob-cesca/the-obama-administration_b_836913.html
March 17, 2011 at 5:32 PM #678746Participant[quote=zk]
Leftists are angry and scared by facts? Compared to those on the right (who else would you be comparing them to)? I don’t want to start a slap fight, and I usually respect what you’re saying, Alan, but please tell me you’re kidding. Listen to those on the right and you hear constant, visceral anger. Both extremes have trouble with facts (although I’d give the right the edge for being afraid of facts). But when it comes to anger, the right wins by an enormous margin.[/quote]Zk: Would you indulge me on something? I’ve taken the liberty of attaching Bob Cesca’s Huffingtonpost article on why the Obama Administration needs to abandon its nuke energy policy. Bob is the host of “The Bob and Elvis Show” and thus in an excellent position to comment intelligently on nuke power. I ask that you read this article, which contains specious “facts”, personal anecdotes, along with using an episode of “The West Wing” (WTF?) to support his argument, and tell me that its a good example of what passes for worthwhile “journalism”. The Comments section following the article is an equally good read, as its utterly devoid of meaningful solutions and instead beats the green drum of “New Energy Solutions” (most of which aren’t new at all).
When finished, please tell me again about the Left’s command and comprehension of “facts”.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/bob-cesca/the-obama-administration_b_836913.html
March 17, 2011 at 5:32 PM #678880Participant[quote=zk]
Leftists are angry and scared by facts? Compared to those on the right (who else would you be comparing them to)? I don’t want to start a slap fight, and I usually respect what you’re saying, Alan, but please tell me you’re kidding. Listen to those on the right and you hear constant, visceral anger. Both extremes have trouble with facts (although I’d give the right the edge for being afraid of facts). But when it comes to anger, the right wins by an enormous margin.[/quote]Zk: Would you indulge me on something? I’ve taken the liberty of attaching Bob Cesca’s Huffingtonpost article on why the Obama Administration needs to abandon its nuke energy policy. Bob is the host of “The Bob and Elvis Show” and thus in an excellent position to comment intelligently on nuke power. I ask that you read this article, which contains specious “facts”, personal anecdotes, along with using an episode of “The West Wing” (WTF?) to support his argument, and tell me that its a good example of what passes for worthwhile “journalism”. The Comments section following the article is an equally good read, as its utterly devoid of meaningful solutions and instead beats the green drum of “New Energy Solutions” (most of which aren’t new at all).
When finished, please tell me again about the Left’s command and comprehension of “facts”.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/bob-cesca/the-obama-administration_b_836913.html
March 17, 2011 at 5:32 PM #679222Participant[quote=zk]
Leftists are angry and scared by facts? Compared to those on the right (who else would you be comparing them to)? I don’t want to start a slap fight, and I usually respect what you’re saying, Alan, but please tell me you’re kidding. Listen to those on the right and you hear constant, visceral anger. Both extremes have trouble with facts (although I’d give the right the edge for being afraid of facts). But when it comes to anger, the right wins by an enormous margin.[/quote]Zk: Would you indulge me on something? I’ve taken the liberty of attaching Bob Cesca’s Huffingtonpost article on why the Obama Administration needs to abandon its nuke energy policy. Bob is the host of “The Bob and Elvis Show” and thus in an excellent position to comment intelligently on nuke power. I ask that you read this article, which contains specious “facts”, personal anecdotes, along with using an episode of “The West Wing” (WTF?) to support his argument, and tell me that its a good example of what passes for worthwhile “journalism”. The Comments section following the article is an equally good read, as its utterly devoid of meaningful solutions and instead beats the green drum of “New Energy Solutions” (most of which aren’t new at all).
When finished, please tell me again about the Left’s command and comprehension of “facts”.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/bob-cesca/the-obama-administration_b_836913.html
March 17, 2011 at 5:36 PM #678097zk
Participant[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]Zk: No, I wasn’t comparing the Left to the Right at all. I was responding to LilBigGubment’s (ILoveRegulation) vitriolic spew directed at the “idiotbertarian” brigade of “morons” and their/our supposed “fear of facts”.
Coming from someone that believes that: (1) Chernobyl killed millions of people and (2) that deadly radiation is heading our way (look out!) and who attempts to shout down the opposition (telling FLU to STFU), well, it just pissed me off and I fired back.
And, I’m no shill for the Right, either. I’m a conservative and there is a huge friggin’ difference. Which means I find Limbaugh and Palin equally as irritating as I find Maddow and Pelosi. To say that I cannot stand Leftists is not an automatic endorsement of the Right. Like I tell my kids: I’m not a racist, I’m a bigot. I hate everybody equally.
This person, like other dyed-in-the-wool Leftists on this board (i.e. IForget, TheBreeze, BigGovernmentIsGood, etc) is unable to debate using the facts and resorts to childish and petty ad hominem when confronted. It gets tiresome after a while.[/quote]
That all makes sense. You’ve also got several dyed-in-the-wool rightists who are unable to debate using facts and resort to childish and petty ad hominem when confronted.
Perhaps on this type of forum, where the average joe is involved, the anger and stupidity is equal on both ends of the spectrum. Maybe my perception is skewed because the right-wing noise machine that you see every day in the media is wild with anger, far more so than what the left comes up with. It works, though. Obama was vilified far in excess of the mistakes he made almost immediately upon taking office. You see so much hatred and anger out there towards him that wouldn’t exist without that noise machine. That machine is not only angry, it is purposely deceitful. It’s why republicans keep winning despite their awful record recently.
March 17, 2011 at 5:36 PM #678152Participant[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]Zk: No, I wasn’t comparing the Left to the Right at all. I was responding to LilBigGubment’s (ILoveRegulation) vitriolic spew directed at the “idiotbertarian” brigade of “morons” and their/our supposed “fear of facts”.
Coming from someone that believes that: (1) Chernobyl killed millions of people and (2) that deadly radiation is heading our way (look out!) and who attempts to shout down the opposition (telling FLU to STFU), well, it just pissed me off and I fired back.
And, I’m no shill for the Right, either. I’m a conservative and there is a huge friggin’ difference. Which means I find Limbaugh and Palin equally as irritating as I find Maddow and Pelosi. To say that I cannot stand Leftists is not an automatic endorsement of the Right. Like I tell my kids: I’m not a racist, I’m a bigot. I hate everybody equally.
This person, like other dyed-in-the-wool Leftists on this board (i.e. IForget, TheBreeze, BigGovernmentIsGood, etc) is unable to debate using the facts and resorts to childish and petty ad hominem when confronted. It gets tiresome after a while.[/quote]
That all makes sense. You’ve also got several dyed-in-the-wool rightists who are unable to debate using facts and resort to childish and petty ad hominem when confronted.
Perhaps on this type of forum, where the average joe is involved, the anger and stupidity is equal on both ends of the spectrum. Maybe my perception is skewed because the right-wing noise machine that you see every day in the media is wild with anger, far more so than what the left comes up with. It works, though. Obama was vilified far in excess of the mistakes he made almost immediately upon taking office. You see so much hatred and anger out there towards him that wouldn’t exist without that noise machine. That machine is not only angry, it is purposely deceitful. It’s why republicans keep winning despite their awful record recently.
March 17, 2011 at 5:36 PM #678753Participant[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]Zk: No, I wasn’t comparing the Left to the Right at all. I was responding to LilBigGubment’s (ILoveRegulation) vitriolic spew directed at the “idiotbertarian” brigade of “morons” and their/our supposed “fear of facts”.
Coming from someone that believes that: (1) Chernobyl killed millions of people and (2) that deadly radiation is heading our way (look out!) and who attempts to shout down the opposition (telling FLU to STFU), well, it just pissed me off and I fired back.
And, I’m no shill for the Right, either. I’m a conservative and there is a huge friggin’ difference. Which means I find Limbaugh and Palin equally as irritating as I find Maddow and Pelosi. To say that I cannot stand Leftists is not an automatic endorsement of the Right. Like I tell my kids: I’m not a racist, I’m a bigot. I hate everybody equally.
This person, like other dyed-in-the-wool Leftists on this board (i.e. IForget, TheBreeze, BigGovernmentIsGood, etc) is unable to debate using the facts and resorts to childish and petty ad hominem when confronted. It gets tiresome after a while.[/quote]
That all makes sense. You’ve also got several dyed-in-the-wool rightists who are unable to debate using facts and resort to childish and petty ad hominem when confronted.
Perhaps on this type of forum, where the average joe is involved, the anger and stupidity is equal on both ends of the spectrum. Maybe my perception is skewed because the right-wing noise machine that you see every day in the media is wild with anger, far more so than what the left comes up with. It works, though. Obama was vilified far in excess of the mistakes he made almost immediately upon taking office. You see so much hatred and anger out there towards him that wouldn’t exist without that noise machine. That machine is not only angry, it is purposely deceitful. It’s why republicans keep winning despite their awful record recently.
March 17, 2011 at 5:36 PM #678889Participant[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]Zk: No, I wasn’t comparing the Left to the Right at all. I was responding to LilBigGubment’s (ILoveRegulation) vitriolic spew directed at the “idiotbertarian” brigade of “morons” and their/our supposed “fear of facts”.
Coming from someone that believes that: (1) Chernobyl killed millions of people and (2) that deadly radiation is heading our way (look out!) and who attempts to shout down the opposition (telling FLU to STFU), well, it just pissed me off and I fired back.
And, I’m no shill for the Right, either. I’m a conservative and there is a huge friggin’ difference. Which means I find Limbaugh and Palin equally as irritating as I find Maddow and Pelosi. To say that I cannot stand Leftists is not an automatic endorsement of the Right. Like I tell my kids: I’m not a racist, I’m a bigot. I hate everybody equally.
This person, like other dyed-in-the-wool Leftists on this board (i.e. IForget, TheBreeze, BigGovernmentIsGood, etc) is unable to debate using the facts and resorts to childish and petty ad hominem when confronted. It gets tiresome after a while.[/quote]
That all makes sense. You’ve also got several dyed-in-the-wool rightists who are unable to debate using facts and resort to childish and petty ad hominem when confronted.
Perhaps on this type of forum, where the average joe is involved, the anger and stupidity is equal on both ends of the spectrum. Maybe my perception is skewed because the right-wing noise machine that you see every day in the media is wild with anger, far more so than what the left comes up with. It works, though. Obama was vilified far in excess of the mistakes he made almost immediately upon taking office. You see so much hatred and anger out there towards him that wouldn’t exist without that noise machine. That machine is not only angry, it is purposely deceitful. It’s why republicans keep winning despite their awful record recently.
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