OT – Just more of the same

[bearishgurl]

Just checking in … carry on 😀

[paramount]

Seriously though, how many people actually drink and smoke while shooting a gun? We don’t need the ATF.

[Huckleberry]

[quote=SD Realtor]Noo Obama did not… at least I doubt it. However it is his guy Eric Holder who oversaw it (it being the entire organization) … and then gave some bs story about knowing about it or not knowing about it (Fast and Furious) …

Is Obama responsible personally for the fiasco in Libya and the ensuing cover up attempt? Maybe or maybe not… but these are all his people. The fact that his administration couldn’t get the story straight, trying to pawn off a terrorist attack on a you tube video… I mean really… If your gonna stick it in my -sss at least give me a reach around.

I guess in the end if he did not personally do it he should not be held culpable in any way.[/quote]

spdrun, this is for you too…

This article hammers home my point about Obama (and his policies) and his administration being the drivers of this behavior and these sorts of acts.

There just IS NO disputing it!

http://www.businessweek.com/news/2012-10-17/obama-pursuing-leakers-sends-warning-to-whistle-blowers

[no_such_reality]

[quote=SD Realtor]
I guess in the end if he did not personally do it he should not be held culpable in any way.[/quote]

Whether it’s the Government or Corporations, the disconnect between leadership and the actions their organizations take needs to be abolished.

We’ve largely completely absolved leadership of responsibility for leading and the results the action taken by their organization.

For example, Scott’s Miracle-Gro recently got slapped with a $12.5 million dollar fine. For what? Well, in a nutshell, poisoning bird seed.

They treated their bird seed with highly toxic insecticides that are toxic up the food chain. Even worse, it still took six months after employees started complaining to stop sales. The product was sold for 2+ years.

I’ve said it before during the illegal labor issue, Corporate and Government leaders need to go to jail when their organizations do things like this.

As for Holder, I’m not saying jail time for the schmucky firing, but let’s stop the plausible deniability stuff and get back to holding leadership responsible when their orgs are schmucks.

[Aecetia]

“WASHINGTON (CBSDC) – A gun found at the scene of a shootout between a Mexican drug cartel and soldiers where a beauty queen died was part of the botched “Fast and Furious” operation, CBS News reports.
Authorities had said that Maria Susana Flores Gamez was likely used as a human shield and that an automatic rifle had been found near her body after the Nov. 23 shootout.”

http://washington.cbslocal.com/2012/12/18/cbs-news-fast-and-furious-gun-found-at-site-where-mexican-beauty-queen-killed/

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