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May 13, 2010 at 6:23 AM #550788May 13, 2010 at 6:36 AM #549812
Coronita
ParticipantThe plot thickens. Maybe the Arizona government read my previous post on this blog about church and state. IF (and that is a big if) educators really are teaching in PUBLIC schools to kids that they are disadvantaged/oppressed/etc, by golly what the heck is going on in our public schools?
http://www.cnn.com/2010/POLITICS/05/12/arizona.ethnic.studies/index.html?hpt=T2
Arizona bans ethnic studies in public schools
CNN) — Fresh on the heels of a new immigration law that has led to calls to boycott her state, Arizona’s governor has signed a bill banning ethnic studies classes that “promote resentment” of other racial groups.
Gov. Jan Brewer approved the measure without public statement Tuesday, according to state legislative records. The new law forbids elementary or secondary schools to teach classes that are “designed primarily for pupils of a particular ethnic group” and advocate “the overthrow of the United States government” or “resentment toward a race or class of people.”
The bill was pushed by state school Superintendent Tom Horne, who has spent two years trying to get Tucson schools to drop a Mexican-American studies program he said teaches Latino students they are an oppressed minority. There was no immediate response from the Tucson Unified School District, the law’s main target.
Brewer’s signature comes less than a month after she approved a state law that requires immigrants to carry their registration documents at all times and allows police to question individuals’ immigration status in the process of enforcing any other law or ordinance. Critics of the law say it will lead to racial profiling, while supporters say it involves no racial profiling and is needed to crack down on increasing crime involving illegal immigrants.
On Wednesday, the Los Angeles City Council overwhelmingly approved a boycott of Arizona-based businesses and governments unless the state repeals the new immigration law.
The city’s legislative analyst reported that Los Angeles currently has $56 million in contracts with companies headquartered in Arizona.
Several other California cities, including San Francisco and Oakland, have already adopted resolutions requesting city departments to not sign any new contracts with Arizona companies.
May 13, 2010 at 6:36 AM #549923Coronita
ParticipantThe plot thickens. Maybe the Arizona government read my previous post on this blog about church and state. IF (and that is a big if) educators really are teaching in PUBLIC schools to kids that they are disadvantaged/oppressed/etc, by golly what the heck is going on in our public schools?
http://www.cnn.com/2010/POLITICS/05/12/arizona.ethnic.studies/index.html?hpt=T2
Arizona bans ethnic studies in public schools
CNN) — Fresh on the heels of a new immigration law that has led to calls to boycott her state, Arizona’s governor has signed a bill banning ethnic studies classes that “promote resentment” of other racial groups.
Gov. Jan Brewer approved the measure without public statement Tuesday, according to state legislative records. The new law forbids elementary or secondary schools to teach classes that are “designed primarily for pupils of a particular ethnic group” and advocate “the overthrow of the United States government” or “resentment toward a race or class of people.”
The bill was pushed by state school Superintendent Tom Horne, who has spent two years trying to get Tucson schools to drop a Mexican-American studies program he said teaches Latino students they are an oppressed minority. There was no immediate response from the Tucson Unified School District, the law’s main target.
Brewer’s signature comes less than a month after she approved a state law that requires immigrants to carry their registration documents at all times and allows police to question individuals’ immigration status in the process of enforcing any other law or ordinance. Critics of the law say it will lead to racial profiling, while supporters say it involves no racial profiling and is needed to crack down on increasing crime involving illegal immigrants.
On Wednesday, the Los Angeles City Council overwhelmingly approved a boycott of Arizona-based businesses and governments unless the state repeals the new immigration law.
The city’s legislative analyst reported that Los Angeles currently has $56 million in contracts with companies headquartered in Arizona.
Several other California cities, including San Francisco and Oakland, have already adopted resolutions requesting city departments to not sign any new contracts with Arizona companies.
May 13, 2010 at 6:36 AM #550416Coronita
ParticipantThe plot thickens. Maybe the Arizona government read my previous post on this blog about church and state. IF (and that is a big if) educators really are teaching in PUBLIC schools to kids that they are disadvantaged/oppressed/etc, by golly what the heck is going on in our public schools?
http://www.cnn.com/2010/POLITICS/05/12/arizona.ethnic.studies/index.html?hpt=T2
Arizona bans ethnic studies in public schools
CNN) — Fresh on the heels of a new immigration law that has led to calls to boycott her state, Arizona’s governor has signed a bill banning ethnic studies classes that “promote resentment” of other racial groups.
Gov. Jan Brewer approved the measure without public statement Tuesday, according to state legislative records. The new law forbids elementary or secondary schools to teach classes that are “designed primarily for pupils of a particular ethnic group” and advocate “the overthrow of the United States government” or “resentment toward a race or class of people.”
The bill was pushed by state school Superintendent Tom Horne, who has spent two years trying to get Tucson schools to drop a Mexican-American studies program he said teaches Latino students they are an oppressed minority. There was no immediate response from the Tucson Unified School District, the law’s main target.
Brewer’s signature comes less than a month after she approved a state law that requires immigrants to carry their registration documents at all times and allows police to question individuals’ immigration status in the process of enforcing any other law or ordinance. Critics of the law say it will lead to racial profiling, while supporters say it involves no racial profiling and is needed to crack down on increasing crime involving illegal immigrants.
On Wednesday, the Los Angeles City Council overwhelmingly approved a boycott of Arizona-based businesses and governments unless the state repeals the new immigration law.
The city’s legislative analyst reported that Los Angeles currently has $56 million in contracts with companies headquartered in Arizona.
Several other California cities, including San Francisco and Oakland, have already adopted resolutions requesting city departments to not sign any new contracts with Arizona companies.
May 13, 2010 at 6:36 AM #550516Coronita
ParticipantThe plot thickens. Maybe the Arizona government read my previous post on this blog about church and state. IF (and that is a big if) educators really are teaching in PUBLIC schools to kids that they are disadvantaged/oppressed/etc, by golly what the heck is going on in our public schools?
http://www.cnn.com/2010/POLITICS/05/12/arizona.ethnic.studies/index.html?hpt=T2
Arizona bans ethnic studies in public schools
CNN) — Fresh on the heels of a new immigration law that has led to calls to boycott her state, Arizona’s governor has signed a bill banning ethnic studies classes that “promote resentment” of other racial groups.
Gov. Jan Brewer approved the measure without public statement Tuesday, according to state legislative records. The new law forbids elementary or secondary schools to teach classes that are “designed primarily for pupils of a particular ethnic group” and advocate “the overthrow of the United States government” or “resentment toward a race or class of people.”
The bill was pushed by state school Superintendent Tom Horne, who has spent two years trying to get Tucson schools to drop a Mexican-American studies program he said teaches Latino students they are an oppressed minority. There was no immediate response from the Tucson Unified School District, the law’s main target.
Brewer’s signature comes less than a month after she approved a state law that requires immigrants to carry their registration documents at all times and allows police to question individuals’ immigration status in the process of enforcing any other law or ordinance. Critics of the law say it will lead to racial profiling, while supporters say it involves no racial profiling and is needed to crack down on increasing crime involving illegal immigrants.
On Wednesday, the Los Angeles City Council overwhelmingly approved a boycott of Arizona-based businesses and governments unless the state repeals the new immigration law.
The city’s legislative analyst reported that Los Angeles currently has $56 million in contracts with companies headquartered in Arizona.
Several other California cities, including San Francisco and Oakland, have already adopted resolutions requesting city departments to not sign any new contracts with Arizona companies.
May 13, 2010 at 6:36 AM #550793Coronita
ParticipantThe plot thickens. Maybe the Arizona government read my previous post on this blog about church and state. IF (and that is a big if) educators really are teaching in PUBLIC schools to kids that they are disadvantaged/oppressed/etc, by golly what the heck is going on in our public schools?
http://www.cnn.com/2010/POLITICS/05/12/arizona.ethnic.studies/index.html?hpt=T2
Arizona bans ethnic studies in public schools
CNN) — Fresh on the heels of a new immigration law that has led to calls to boycott her state, Arizona’s governor has signed a bill banning ethnic studies classes that “promote resentment” of other racial groups.
Gov. Jan Brewer approved the measure without public statement Tuesday, according to state legislative records. The new law forbids elementary or secondary schools to teach classes that are “designed primarily for pupils of a particular ethnic group” and advocate “the overthrow of the United States government” or “resentment toward a race or class of people.”
The bill was pushed by state school Superintendent Tom Horne, who has spent two years trying to get Tucson schools to drop a Mexican-American studies program he said teaches Latino students they are an oppressed minority. There was no immediate response from the Tucson Unified School District, the law’s main target.
Brewer’s signature comes less than a month after she approved a state law that requires immigrants to carry their registration documents at all times and allows police to question individuals’ immigration status in the process of enforcing any other law or ordinance. Critics of the law say it will lead to racial profiling, while supporters say it involves no racial profiling and is needed to crack down on increasing crime involving illegal immigrants.
On Wednesday, the Los Angeles City Council overwhelmingly approved a boycott of Arizona-based businesses and governments unless the state repeals the new immigration law.
The city’s legislative analyst reported that Los Angeles currently has $56 million in contracts with companies headquartered in Arizona.
Several other California cities, including San Francisco and Oakland, have already adopted resolutions requesting city departments to not sign any new contracts with Arizona companies.
May 13, 2010 at 8:34 AM #549847CDMA ENG
Participant[quote=Shadowfax]Arizona doesn’t make anything–it’s all service jobs. And if it had any manufacturing, those jobs are held by illegal immigrants![/quote]
You know the last time I was at Intel I wasn’t quite sure if all those people in bunny suits were illegals… Arizona makes plenty of things.
CE
May 13, 2010 at 8:34 AM #549958CDMA ENG
Participant[quote=Shadowfax]Arizona doesn’t make anything–it’s all service jobs. And if it had any manufacturing, those jobs are held by illegal immigrants![/quote]
You know the last time I was at Intel I wasn’t quite sure if all those people in bunny suits were illegals… Arizona makes plenty of things.
CE
May 13, 2010 at 8:34 AM #550452CDMA ENG
Participant[quote=Shadowfax]Arizona doesn’t make anything–it’s all service jobs. And if it had any manufacturing, those jobs are held by illegal immigrants![/quote]
You know the last time I was at Intel I wasn’t quite sure if all those people in bunny suits were illegals… Arizona makes plenty of things.
CE
May 13, 2010 at 8:34 AM #550551CDMA ENG
Participant[quote=Shadowfax]Arizona doesn’t make anything–it’s all service jobs. And if it had any manufacturing, those jobs are held by illegal immigrants![/quote]
You know the last time I was at Intel I wasn’t quite sure if all those people in bunny suits were illegals… Arizona makes plenty of things.
CE
May 13, 2010 at 8:34 AM #550828CDMA ENG
Participant[quote=Shadowfax]Arizona doesn’t make anything–it’s all service jobs. And if it had any manufacturing, those jobs are held by illegal immigrants![/quote]
You know the last time I was at Intel I wasn’t quite sure if all those people in bunny suits were illegals… Arizona makes plenty of things.
CE
May 13, 2010 at 12:40 PM #549914briansd1
Guest[quote=flu]
Until Google was hacked by folks in China, they didn’t give a hoot about people’s free speech in China, because they (like, Yahoo, Microsoft,etc) are there to make money…Review history again, and you’ll see that Google was totally mum about China until they were hacked…That pissed them off, so they threatened to leave China,
[/quote]The companies that were hacked were in Silicon Valley.
How does Google leaving China stop future attacks? It doesn’t.
From what I understand, Google in China was a better search engine if you’re looking for real information. But Google was behind in market share and its business was restricted.
Threatening to leave was a failed PR attempt by American executives at Google to force the hand of the Chinese government, and build name recognition and market share by playing up the “Do No Evil” motto.
But the American executives failed to understand Chinese culture which is a lot more about long term relationship than immediate profits.
Google gave up a huge market. The Chinese still have Google research and Google technology in China and in Hong Kong.
But the psychology is different in China. America is a lot more corporate and corporations go where consumers are. For that reason, corporate boycott of Arizona will continue to build until the state legislature relents. Trade associations and companies will continue to cancel conventions and business trips to AZ.
In my opinion, a boycott of AZ by Google would play very well with young computer savvy consumers. And it would help build the “Do No Evil” brand.
Corporations have Spanish at ATM, check registers, websites, etc…not just because consumers demand them, but to attract the marginal new customers who would not otherwise come.
May 13, 2010 at 12:40 PM #550025briansd1
Guest[quote=flu]
Until Google was hacked by folks in China, they didn’t give a hoot about people’s free speech in China, because they (like, Yahoo, Microsoft,etc) are there to make money…Review history again, and you’ll see that Google was totally mum about China until they were hacked…That pissed them off, so they threatened to leave China,
[/quote]The companies that were hacked were in Silicon Valley.
How does Google leaving China stop future attacks? It doesn’t.
From what I understand, Google in China was a better search engine if you’re looking for real information. But Google was behind in market share and its business was restricted.
Threatening to leave was a failed PR attempt by American executives at Google to force the hand of the Chinese government, and build name recognition and market share by playing up the “Do No Evil” motto.
But the American executives failed to understand Chinese culture which is a lot more about long term relationship than immediate profits.
Google gave up a huge market. The Chinese still have Google research and Google technology in China and in Hong Kong.
But the psychology is different in China. America is a lot more corporate and corporations go where consumers are. For that reason, corporate boycott of Arizona will continue to build until the state legislature relents. Trade associations and companies will continue to cancel conventions and business trips to AZ.
In my opinion, a boycott of AZ by Google would play very well with young computer savvy consumers. And it would help build the “Do No Evil” brand.
Corporations have Spanish at ATM, check registers, websites, etc…not just because consumers demand them, but to attract the marginal new customers who would not otherwise come.
May 13, 2010 at 12:40 PM #550517briansd1
Guest[quote=flu]
Until Google was hacked by folks in China, they didn’t give a hoot about people’s free speech in China, because they (like, Yahoo, Microsoft,etc) are there to make money…Review history again, and you’ll see that Google was totally mum about China until they were hacked…That pissed them off, so they threatened to leave China,
[/quote]The companies that were hacked were in Silicon Valley.
How does Google leaving China stop future attacks? It doesn’t.
From what I understand, Google in China was a better search engine if you’re looking for real information. But Google was behind in market share and its business was restricted.
Threatening to leave was a failed PR attempt by American executives at Google to force the hand of the Chinese government, and build name recognition and market share by playing up the “Do No Evil” motto.
But the American executives failed to understand Chinese culture which is a lot more about long term relationship than immediate profits.
Google gave up a huge market. The Chinese still have Google research and Google technology in China and in Hong Kong.
But the psychology is different in China. America is a lot more corporate and corporations go where consumers are. For that reason, corporate boycott of Arizona will continue to build until the state legislature relents. Trade associations and companies will continue to cancel conventions and business trips to AZ.
In my opinion, a boycott of AZ by Google would play very well with young computer savvy consumers. And it would help build the “Do No Evil” brand.
Corporations have Spanish at ATM, check registers, websites, etc…not just because consumers demand them, but to attract the marginal new customers who would not otherwise come.
May 13, 2010 at 12:40 PM #550617briansd1
Guest[quote=flu]
Until Google was hacked by folks in China, they didn’t give a hoot about people’s free speech in China, because they (like, Yahoo, Microsoft,etc) are there to make money…Review history again, and you’ll see that Google was totally mum about China until they were hacked…That pissed them off, so they threatened to leave China,
[/quote]The companies that were hacked were in Silicon Valley.
How does Google leaving China stop future attacks? It doesn’t.
From what I understand, Google in China was a better search engine if you’re looking for real information. But Google was behind in market share and its business was restricted.
Threatening to leave was a failed PR attempt by American executives at Google to force the hand of the Chinese government, and build name recognition and market share by playing up the “Do No Evil” motto.
But the American executives failed to understand Chinese culture which is a lot more about long term relationship than immediate profits.
Google gave up a huge market. The Chinese still have Google research and Google technology in China and in Hong Kong.
But the psychology is different in China. America is a lot more corporate and corporations go where consumers are. For that reason, corporate boycott of Arizona will continue to build until the state legislature relents. Trade associations and companies will continue to cancel conventions and business trips to AZ.
In my opinion, a boycott of AZ by Google would play very well with young computer savvy consumers. And it would help build the “Do No Evil” brand.
Corporations have Spanish at ATM, check registers, websites, etc…not just because consumers demand them, but to attract the marginal new customers who would not otherwise come.
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