OT- Governor Palin will resign July 25, 2009.

[Zeitgeist]

This is about the disrespect.

[Aecetia]

Obama: Children are off limits
Posted: Monday, September 01, 2008 2:40 PM by Mark Murray
Filed Under: Sarah Palin

From NBC’s Savannah Guthrie
In his media avail, Obama just responded to reporters’ questions about the Bristol Palin story. Noting that his mother had him when she was 18 years old, Obama said families are “off limits” in campaigns. He was very impassioned.

“I have said before and I will repeat again, I think people’s families are off limits, and people’s children are especially off limits. This shouldn’t be part of our politics, it has no relevance to governor Palin’s performance as a governor or her potential performance as a vice president. And so I would strongly urge people to back off these kinds of stories,” Obama said. “And so I would strongly urge people to back off these kinds of stories. You know, my mother had me when she was 18. And how family deals with issues and teenage children that shouldn’t be the topic of our politics, and I hope that anybody who is supporting me understands that is off limits.”

I think this is well said and shows he has a good upbringing.

[Aecetia]

Obama: Children are off limits
Posted: Monday, September 01, 2008 2:40 PM by Mark Murray
Filed Under: Sarah Palin

From NBC’s Savannah Guthrie
In his media avail, Obama just responded to reporters’ questions about the Bristol Palin story. Noting that his mother had him when she was 18 years old, Obama said families are “off limits” in campaigns. He was very impassioned.

“I have said before and I will repeat again, I think people’s families are off limits, and people’s children are especially off limits. This shouldn’t be part of our politics, it has no relevance to governor Palin’s performance as a governor or her potential performance as a vice president. And so I would strongly urge people to back off these kinds of stories,” Obama said. “And so I would strongly urge people to back off these kinds of stories. You know, my mother had me when she was 18. And how family deals with issues and teenage children that shouldn’t be the topic of our politics, and I hope that anybody who is supporting me understands that is off limits.”

I think this is well said and shows he has a good upbringing.

[Aecetia]

Obama: Children are off limits
Posted: Monday, September 01, 2008 2:40 PM by Mark Murray
Filed Under: Sarah Palin

From NBC’s Savannah Guthrie
In his media avail, Obama just responded to reporters’ questions about the Bristol Palin story. Noting that his mother had him when she was 18 years old, Obama said families are “off limits” in campaigns. He was very impassioned.

“I have said before and I will repeat again, I think people’s families are off limits, and people’s children are especially off limits. This shouldn’t be part of our politics, it has no relevance to governor Palin’s performance as a governor or her potential performance as a vice president. And so I would strongly urge people to back off these kinds of stories,” Obama said. “And so I would strongly urge people to back off these kinds of stories. You know, my mother had me when she was 18. And how family deals with issues and teenage children that shouldn’t be the topic of our politics, and I hope that anybody who is supporting me understands that is off limits.”

I think this is well said and shows he has a good upbringing.

[Aecetia]

Obama: Children are off limits
Posted: Monday, September 01, 2008 2:40 PM by Mark Murray
Filed Under: Sarah Palin

From NBC’s Savannah Guthrie
In his media avail, Obama just responded to reporters’ questions about the Bristol Palin story. Noting that his mother had him when she was 18 years old, Obama said families are “off limits” in campaigns. He was very impassioned.

“I have said before and I will repeat again, I think people’s families are off limits, and people’s children are especially off limits. This shouldn’t be part of our politics, it has no relevance to governor Palin’s performance as a governor or her potential performance as a vice president. And so I would strongly urge people to back off these kinds of stories,” Obama said. “And so I would strongly urge people to back off these kinds of stories. You know, my mother had me when she was 18. And how family deals with issues and teenage children that shouldn’t be the topic of our politics, and I hope that anybody who is supporting me understands that is off limits.”

I think this is well said and shows he has a good upbringing.

[Aecetia]

Obama: Children are off limits
Posted: Monday, September 01, 2008 2:40 PM by Mark Murray
Filed Under: Sarah Palin

From NBC’s Savannah Guthrie
In his media avail, Obama just responded to reporters’ questions about the Bristol Palin story. Noting that his mother had him when she was 18 years old, Obama said families are “off limits” in campaigns. He was very impassioned.

“I have said before and I will repeat again, I think people’s families are off limits, and people’s children are especially off limits. This shouldn’t be part of our politics, it has no relevance to governor Palin’s performance as a governor or her potential performance as a vice president. And so I would strongly urge people to back off these kinds of stories,” Obama said. “And so I would strongly urge people to back off these kinds of stories. You know, my mother had me when she was 18. And how family deals with issues and teenage children that shouldn’t be the topic of our politics, and I hope that anybody who is supporting me understands that is off limits.”

I think this is well said and shows he has a good upbringing.

[briansd1]

Yes, children are off limits.

But Bristol Palin is nearly 19 so she’s an adult. Her baby would be off limits.

Sarah Palin’s upbringing of Bristol is not off limits.

The fact that Bristol Palin is an unwed mother and still a dependent of Sarah Palin’s (and living in her household) is no indication of good family values or upstanding moral character.

What about Levi Johnston? Is he paying for child care?

What about the conversatives’ disapproval of sex outside of marriage? I don’t how the religious conservatives can embrace Sarah Palin as a spokesperson for conservative values.

It seems to me that for Palin’s base, if you repent, you can fornicate as much as you want. An “interesting” family value, if you ask me.

[briansd1]

Yes, children are off limits.

But Bristol Palin is nearly 19 so she’s an adult. Her baby would be off limits.

Sarah Palin’s upbringing of Bristol is not off limits.

The fact that Bristol Palin is an unwed mother and still a dependent of Sarah Palin’s (and living in her household) is no indication of good family values or upstanding moral character.

What about Levi Johnston? Is he paying for child care?

What about the conversatives’ disapproval of sex outside of marriage? I don’t how the religious conservatives can embrace Sarah Palin as a spokesperson for conservative values.

It seems to me that for Palin’s base, if you repent, you can fornicate as much as you want. An “interesting” family value, if you ask me.

[briansd1]

Yes, children are off limits.

But Bristol Palin is nearly 19 so she’s an adult. Her baby would be off limits.

Sarah Palin’s upbringing of Bristol is not off limits.

The fact that Bristol Palin is an unwed mother and still a dependent of Sarah Palin’s (and living in her household) is no indication of good family values or upstanding moral character.

What about Levi Johnston? Is he paying for child care?

What about the conversatives’ disapproval of sex outside of marriage? I don’t how the religious conservatives can embrace Sarah Palin as a spokesperson for conservative values.

It seems to me that for Palin’s base, if you repent, you can fornicate as much as you want. An “interesting” family value, if you ask me.

[briansd1]

Yes, children are off limits.

But Bristol Palin is nearly 19 so she’s an adult. Her baby would be off limits.

Sarah Palin’s upbringing of Bristol is not off limits.

The fact that Bristol Palin is an unwed mother and still a dependent of Sarah Palin’s (and living in her household) is no indication of good family values or upstanding moral character.

What about Levi Johnston? Is he paying for child care?

What about the conversatives’ disapproval of sex outside of marriage? I don’t how the religious conservatives can embrace Sarah Palin as a spokesperson for conservative values.

It seems to me that for Palin’s base, if you repent, you can fornicate as much as you want. An “interesting” family value, if you ask me.

[briansd1]

Yes, children are off limits.

But Bristol Palin is nearly 19 so she’s an adult. Her baby would be off limits.

Sarah Palin’s upbringing of Bristol is not off limits.

The fact that Bristol Palin is an unwed mother and still a dependent of Sarah Palin’s (and living in her household) is no indication of good family values or upstanding moral character.

What about Levi Johnston? Is he paying for child care?

What about the conversatives’ disapproval of sex outside of marriage? I don’t how the religious conservatives can embrace Sarah Palin as a spokesperson for conservative values.

It seems to me that for Palin’s base, if you repent, you can fornicate as much as you want. An “interesting” family value, if you ask me.

[surveyor]

sophistry

Hey, Brian, I hate to break it to you but just because my daughter engages in pre-marital sex and then has a baby out of wedlock, and i’m helping her out does not mean I stop advocating for family values or upstanding moral character.

It’s BECAUSE that happened that I would be more in favor of those values because look how hard it is when you don’t adhere to it.

That scenario does not make one a hypocrite. There is precious little one can do to control children. You can’t run their lives for them.

Now your argument of hypocrisy would make more sense if Palin herself was unwed and became pregnant outside of marriage. Applying her standards to her children is not the same.

Still, I find all the Sarah bashing here interesting. Remember that she and McCain were catching up to Obama and were virtually in a neck to neck race. It was only after the economic crisis started dominating the news that their ticket started trending down.

On a side note, it’s also interesting watching all this negative coverage of Palin because it reminds me of this dateline story. They had a father in a restaurant and the kids were running wild. Most of the people in the restaurant disapproved of the father and the way he was letting them run around, but most did not say anything. The same scenario but they had the mother there instead. More restaurant patrons confronted the mother about the kids than the father.

I see that same exact behavior going on here. It wasn’t that the father was more lenient or the mother more strict. Basically that the mother was being held to a higher standard. Hardly fair. Much like the press coverage.

[surveyor]

sophistry

Hey, Brian, I hate to break it to you but just because my daughter engages in pre-marital sex and then has a baby out of wedlock, and i’m helping her out does not mean I stop advocating for family values or upstanding moral character.

It’s BECAUSE that happened that I would be more in favor of those values because look how hard it is when you don’t adhere to it.

That scenario does not make one a hypocrite. There is precious little one can do to control children. You can’t run their lives for them.

Now your argument of hypocrisy would make more sense if Palin herself was unwed and became pregnant outside of marriage. Applying her standards to her children is not the same.

Still, I find all the Sarah bashing here interesting. Remember that she and McCain were catching up to Obama and were virtually in a neck to neck race. It was only after the economic crisis started dominating the news that their ticket started trending down.

On a side note, it’s also interesting watching all this negative coverage of Palin because it reminds me of this dateline story. They had a father in a restaurant and the kids were running wild. Most of the people in the restaurant disapproved of the father and the way he was letting them run around, but most did not say anything. The same scenario but they had the mother there instead. More restaurant patrons confronted the mother about the kids than the father.

I see that same exact behavior going on here. It wasn’t that the father was more lenient or the mother more strict. Basically that the mother was being held to a higher standard. Hardly fair. Much like the press coverage.

[surveyor]

sophistry

Hey, Brian, I hate to break it to you but just because my daughter engages in pre-marital sex and then has a baby out of wedlock, and i’m helping her out does not mean I stop advocating for family values or upstanding moral character.

It’s BECAUSE that happened that I would be more in favor of those values because look how hard it is when you don’t adhere to it.

That scenario does not make one a hypocrite. There is precious little one can do to control children. You can’t run their lives for them.

Now your argument of hypocrisy would make more sense if Palin herself was unwed and became pregnant outside of marriage. Applying her standards to her children is not the same.

Still, I find all the Sarah bashing here interesting. Remember that she and McCain were catching up to Obama and were virtually in a neck to neck race. It was only after the economic crisis started dominating the news that their ticket started trending down.

On a side note, it’s also interesting watching all this negative coverage of Palin because it reminds me of this dateline story. They had a father in a restaurant and the kids were running wild. Most of the people in the restaurant disapproved of the father and the way he was letting them run around, but most did not say anything. The same scenario but they had the mother there instead. More restaurant patrons confronted the mother about the kids than the father.

I see that same exact behavior going on here. It wasn’t that the father was more lenient or the mother more strict. Basically that the mother was being held to a higher standard. Hardly fair. Much like the press coverage.

[surveyor]

sophistry

Hey, Brian, I hate to break it to you but just because my daughter engages in pre-marital sex and then has a baby out of wedlock, and i’m helping her out does not mean I stop advocating for family values or upstanding moral character.

It’s BECAUSE that happened that I would be more in favor of those values because look how hard it is when you don’t adhere to it.

That scenario does not make one a hypocrite. There is precious little one can do to control children. You can’t run their lives for them.

Now your argument of hypocrisy would make more sense if Palin herself was unwed and became pregnant outside of marriage. Applying her standards to her children is not the same.

Still, I find all the Sarah bashing here interesting. Remember that she and McCain were catching up to Obama and were virtually in a neck to neck race. It was only after the economic crisis started dominating the news that their ticket started trending down.

On a side note, it’s also interesting watching all this negative coverage of Palin because it reminds me of this dateline story. They had a father in a restaurant and the kids were running wild. Most of the people in the restaurant disapproved of the father and the way he was letting them run around, but most did not say anything. The same scenario but they had the mother there instead. More restaurant patrons confronted the mother about the kids than the father.

I see that same exact behavior going on here. It wasn’t that the father was more lenient or the mother more strict. Basically that the mother was being held to a higher standard. Hardly fair. Much like the press coverage.

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