OT: Gay Marriage

[NotCranky]

On the one hand you have the judgement call on what is sensitive and what is not, from a super gay friendly Hillcrest Realtor….and brian1. I guess you have some wimps who for no good reason can’t handle admiration from a man. On the other hand you might have a 18 year old boy just out of school who was molested by a man in his youth having to share a room and communal bathing facilities with people who are openly interested in provoked by men. Again, we know there are women who would not enjoy a similar circumstance and no respectable person or institution would think about ignoring it. This is not my story and I am not equating gay paedophiles with decent homosexuals. I think you have both extremes and everything in between interms of ease of dis-ease amongst the straight population, and amongst those great gays you certainly have some sickos… so who is being insensitive?

I don’t know what the most constructive policy would be. I dislike the potential for dishonorable discharge and any accompanying scandalous treatment to good people. I was in the military in 1980-86. I guess it was unofficially don’t ask don’t tell. That seemed pretty functional considering quarters were being shared. If someone got caught masturbating with a blue boy magazine or couldn’t help but grope someone, or demand they be made queen of the unit, there could be trouble to varying degrees. Young enlistees could get used to a mixed orientation enviornment slowly and while some gays might have felt oppressed they didn’t have it worse than other people in general(my perspective of course).

[Arraya]

Easy fix. We should castrate all military personal to fix the problem. Problem solved.

[Arraya]

Easy fix. We should castrate all military personal to fix the problem. Problem solved.

[Arraya]

Easy fix. We should castrate all military personal to fix the problem. Problem solved.

[Arraya]

Easy fix. We should castrate all military personal to fix the problem. Problem solved.

[Arraya]

Easy fix. We should castrate all military personal to fix the problem. Problem solved.

[urbanrealtor]

[quote=Russell]If someone got caught masturbating with a blue boy magazine or couldn’t help but grope someone, or demand they be made queen of the unit, there could be trouble to varying degrees.[/quote]

Okay but again you are talking about disruptive behavior and I am not.
I agree that disruptive behavior should be addressed.
All I am saying is that behavior should be the referent and sentiment should not.
Perhaps that is because, while gay-friendly as you say (though I would characterize it as not giving a shit), I do not like it when people hit me over the head with their sexuality.
Whatever.
The point is that if someone is acting inappropriately, that affects unit cohesion.
The thoughts that run around in their head do not.
Most service men would be embarrassed and uncomfortable to serve with Liberace.
Most would be proud to serve with Rob Halford.

[urbanrealtor]

[quote=Russell]If someone got caught masturbating with a blue boy magazine or couldn’t help but grope someone, or demand they be made queen of the unit, there could be trouble to varying degrees.[/quote]

Okay but again you are talking about disruptive behavior and I am not.
I agree that disruptive behavior should be addressed.
All I am saying is that behavior should be the referent and sentiment should not.
Perhaps that is because, while gay-friendly as you say (though I would characterize it as not giving a shit), I do not like it when people hit me over the head with their sexuality.
Whatever.
The point is that if someone is acting inappropriately, that affects unit cohesion.
The thoughts that run around in their head do not.
Most service men would be embarrassed and uncomfortable to serve with Liberace.
Most would be proud to serve with Rob Halford.

[urbanrealtor]

[quote=Russell]If someone got caught masturbating with a blue boy magazine or couldn’t help but grope someone, or demand they be made queen of the unit, there could be trouble to varying degrees.[/quote]

Okay but again you are talking about disruptive behavior and I am not.
I agree that disruptive behavior should be addressed.
All I am saying is that behavior should be the referent and sentiment should not.
Perhaps that is because, while gay-friendly as you say (though I would characterize it as not giving a shit), I do not like it when people hit me over the head with their sexuality.
Whatever.
The point is that if someone is acting inappropriately, that affects unit cohesion.
The thoughts that run around in their head do not.
Most service men would be embarrassed and uncomfortable to serve with Liberace.
Most would be proud to serve with Rob Halford.

[urbanrealtor]

[quote=Russell]If someone got caught masturbating with a blue boy magazine or couldn’t help but grope someone, or demand they be made queen of the unit, there could be trouble to varying degrees.[/quote]

Okay but again you are talking about disruptive behavior and I am not.
I agree that disruptive behavior should be addressed.
All I am saying is that behavior should be the referent and sentiment should not.
Perhaps that is because, while gay-friendly as you say (though I would characterize it as not giving a shit), I do not like it when people hit me over the head with their sexuality.
Whatever.
The point is that if someone is acting inappropriately, that affects unit cohesion.
The thoughts that run around in their head do not.
Most service men would be embarrassed and uncomfortable to serve with Liberace.
Most would be proud to serve with Rob Halford.

[urbanrealtor]

[quote=Russell]If someone got caught masturbating with a blue boy magazine or couldn’t help but grope someone, or demand they be made queen of the unit, there could be trouble to varying degrees.[/quote]

Okay but again you are talking about disruptive behavior and I am not.
I agree that disruptive behavior should be addressed.
All I am saying is that behavior should be the referent and sentiment should not.
Perhaps that is because, while gay-friendly as you say (though I would characterize it as not giving a shit), I do not like it when people hit me over the head with their sexuality.
Whatever.
The point is that if someone is acting inappropriately, that affects unit cohesion.
The thoughts that run around in their head do not.
Most service men would be embarrassed and uncomfortable to serve with Liberace.
Most would be proud to serve with Rob Halford.

[Arraya]

Does a man who wants to bathe and sleep apart from men who lust after males have a right too?

After thinking about this I would have to say, no. What kind of “right” is that? Does that same man have the right claim the need for segregation from anybody who could possibly have a thought that he might find unsavory. Or is it just lustful thoughts that are a violation. “I don’t like the way you could *possibly* be thinking and it’s violating my rights???”

[Arraya]

Does a man who wants to bathe and sleep apart from men who lust after males have a right too?

After thinking about this I would have to say, no. What kind of “right” is that? Does that same man have the right claim the need for segregation from anybody who could possibly have a thought that he might find unsavory. Or is it just lustful thoughts that are a violation. “I don’t like the way you could *possibly* be thinking and it’s violating my rights???”

[Arraya]

Does a man who wants to bathe and sleep apart from men who lust after males have a right too?

After thinking about this I would have to say, no. What kind of “right” is that? Does that same man have the right claim the need for segregation from anybody who could possibly have a thought that he might find unsavory. Or is it just lustful thoughts that are a violation. “I don’t like the way you could *possibly* be thinking and it’s violating my rights???”

[Arraya]

Does a man who wants to bathe and sleep apart from men who lust after males have a right too?

After thinking about this I would have to say, no. What kind of “right” is that? Does that same man have the right claim the need for segregation from anybody who could possibly have a thought that he might find unsavory. Or is it just lustful thoughts that are a violation. “I don’t like the way you could *possibly* be thinking and it’s violating my rights???”

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