OT: Gay Marriage

[NotCranky]

I agree that job performance is not in question.
The military is different from other work places in that co-workers share cramped sleeping quarters/bathing areas for entire tours of duty, which can be very long . So, in the military people who are prone to sleeping with each other are generally given separate sleeping and bathing facilities.I would assume most women prefer to be kept separate, in these intimate situations, from most if not all male co-workers. Does a man who wants to bathe and sleep apart from men who lust after males have a right too?

[Wickedheart]

[quote=Russell] Does a man who wants to bathe and sleep apart from men who lust after males have a right too?[/quote]

What about women who lust after other females?

[Wickedheart]

[quote=Russell] Does a man who wants to bathe and sleep apart from men who lust after males have a right too?[/quote]

What about women who lust after other females?

[Wickedheart]

[quote=Russell] Does a man who wants to bathe and sleep apart from men who lust after males have a right too?[/quote]

What about women who lust after other females?

[Wickedheart]

[quote=Russell] Does a man who wants to bathe and sleep apart from men who lust after males have a right too?[/quote]

What about women who lust after other females?

[Wickedheart]

[quote=Russell] Does a man who wants to bathe and sleep apart from men who lust after males have a right too?[/quote]

What about women who lust after other females?

[CA renter]

[quote=Wickedheart][quote=Russell] Does a man who wants to bathe and sleep apart from men who lust after males have a right too?[/quote]

What about women who lust after other females?[/quote]

Both.

IMHO, Russel’s point is exactly on target.

It’s not about loving or hating gay people. It’s about segregating people by sexual preference. I’m pretty sure males and females are kept in separate quarters for this very reason, and can understand why some men and women would feel uncomfortable living in intimate quarters with people who might have a sexual interest in them (and where they really don’t want to reciprocate).

[CA renter]

[quote=Wickedheart][quote=Russell] Does a man who wants to bathe and sleep apart from men who lust after males have a right too?[/quote]

What about women who lust after other females?[/quote]

Both.

IMHO, Russel’s point is exactly on target.

It’s not about loving or hating gay people. It’s about segregating people by sexual preference. I’m pretty sure males and females are kept in separate quarters for this very reason, and can understand why some men and women would feel uncomfortable living in intimate quarters with people who might have a sexual interest in them (and where they really don’t want to reciprocate).

[CA renter]

[quote=Wickedheart][quote=Russell] Does a man who wants to bathe and sleep apart from men who lust after males have a right too?[/quote]

What about women who lust after other females?[/quote]

Both.

IMHO, Russel’s point is exactly on target.

It’s not about loving or hating gay people. It’s about segregating people by sexual preference. I’m pretty sure males and females are kept in separate quarters for this very reason, and can understand why some men and women would feel uncomfortable living in intimate quarters with people who might have a sexual interest in them (and where they really don’t want to reciprocate).

[CA renter]

[quote=Wickedheart][quote=Russell] Does a man who wants to bathe and sleep apart from men who lust after males have a right too?[/quote]

What about women who lust after other females?[/quote]

Both.

IMHO, Russel’s point is exactly on target.

It’s not about loving or hating gay people. It’s about segregating people by sexual preference. I’m pretty sure males and females are kept in separate quarters for this very reason, and can understand why some men and women would feel uncomfortable living in intimate quarters with people who might have a sexual interest in them (and where they really don’t want to reciprocate).

[CA renter]

[quote=Wickedheart][quote=Russell] Does a man who wants to bathe and sleep apart from men who lust after males have a right too?[/quote]

What about women who lust after other females?[/quote]

Both.

IMHO, Russel’s point is exactly on target.

It’s not about loving or hating gay people. It’s about segregating people by sexual preference. I’m pretty sure males and females are kept in separate quarters for this very reason, and can understand why some men and women would feel uncomfortable living in intimate quarters with people who might have a sexual interest in them (and where they really don’t want to reciprocate).

[urbanrealtor]

[quote=CA renter]

Both.

IMHO, Russel’s point is exactly on target.

It’s not about loving or hating gay people. It’s about segregating people by sexual preference. I’m pretty sure males and females are kept in separate quarters for this very reason, and can understand why some men and women would feel uncomfortable living in intimate quarters with people who might have a sexual interest in them (and where they really don’t want to reciprocate).[/quote]
I agree that its not about loving or hating anyone.

However, I think the comfortability factor should not play a bigger policy part in military life than it does in regular life.
You share bathrooms now with homos.
You have gay waiters and doctors.
Like half of your kids’ teachers are gay.
Gender segregation is easy because respective genders look and act comparatively differently from one another.
Women generally are of a physically smaller stature and generally have higher voices.
Those are some of their defining characteristics.
The only thing that defines homos is the sentiment of sexual preference.
Segregation based on any preference or sentiment (other than loyalty) is foolish.
You are basically arguing for separation based on the possibility that some soldiers will be afraid that someone will think something about them (that they are attractive) that they don’t like.
The absurdity of catering to that particular sensitivity is part of the reason that the Israeli army doesn’t.
While I am not a fan of Israeli policies, it can’t be argued that they suck at defense generally or unit cohesion in particular.

[urbanrealtor]

[quote=CA renter]

Both.

IMHO, Russel’s point is exactly on target.

It’s not about loving or hating gay people. It’s about segregating people by sexual preference. I’m pretty sure males and females are kept in separate quarters for this very reason, and can understand why some men and women would feel uncomfortable living in intimate quarters with people who might have a sexual interest in them (and where they really don’t want to reciprocate).[/quote]
I agree that its not about loving or hating anyone.

However, I think the comfortability factor should not play a bigger policy part in military life than it does in regular life.
You share bathrooms now with homos.
You have gay waiters and doctors.
Like half of your kids’ teachers are gay.
Gender segregation is easy because respective genders look and act comparatively differently from one another.
Women generally are of a physically smaller stature and generally have higher voices.
Those are some of their defining characteristics.
The only thing that defines homos is the sentiment of sexual preference.
Segregation based on any preference or sentiment (other than loyalty) is foolish.
You are basically arguing for separation based on the possibility that some soldiers will be afraid that someone will think something about them (that they are attractive) that they don’t like.
The absurdity of catering to that particular sensitivity is part of the reason that the Israeli army doesn’t.
While I am not a fan of Israeli policies, it can’t be argued that they suck at defense generally or unit cohesion in particular.

[urbanrealtor]

[quote=CA renter]

Both.

IMHO, Russel’s point is exactly on target.

It’s not about loving or hating gay people. It’s about segregating people by sexual preference. I’m pretty sure males and females are kept in separate quarters for this very reason, and can understand why some men and women would feel uncomfortable living in intimate quarters with people who might have a sexual interest in them (and where they really don’t want to reciprocate).[/quote]
I agree that its not about loving or hating anyone.

However, I think the comfortability factor should not play a bigger policy part in military life than it does in regular life.
You share bathrooms now with homos.
You have gay waiters and doctors.
Like half of your kids’ teachers are gay.
Gender segregation is easy because respective genders look and act comparatively differently from one another.
Women generally are of a physically smaller stature and generally have higher voices.
Those are some of their defining characteristics.
The only thing that defines homos is the sentiment of sexual preference.
Segregation based on any preference or sentiment (other than loyalty) is foolish.
You are basically arguing for separation based on the possibility that some soldiers will be afraid that someone will think something about them (that they are attractive) that they don’t like.
The absurdity of catering to that particular sensitivity is part of the reason that the Israeli army doesn’t.
While I am not a fan of Israeli policies, it can’t be argued that they suck at defense generally or unit cohesion in particular.

[urbanrealtor]

[quote=CA renter]

Both.

IMHO, Russel’s point is exactly on target.

It’s not about loving or hating gay people. It’s about segregating people by sexual preference. I’m pretty sure males and females are kept in separate quarters for this very reason, and can understand why some men and women would feel uncomfortable living in intimate quarters with people who might have a sexual interest in them (and where they really don’t want to reciprocate).[/quote]
I agree that its not about loving or hating anyone.

However, I think the comfortability factor should not play a bigger policy part in military life than it does in regular life.
You share bathrooms now with homos.
You have gay waiters and doctors.
Like half of your kids’ teachers are gay.
Gender segregation is easy because respective genders look and act comparatively differently from one another.
Women generally are of a physically smaller stature and generally have higher voices.
Those are some of their defining characteristics.
The only thing that defines homos is the sentiment of sexual preference.
Segregation based on any preference or sentiment (other than loyalty) is foolish.
You are basically arguing for separation based on the possibility that some soldiers will be afraid that someone will think something about them (that they are attractive) that they don’t like.
The absurdity of catering to that particular sensitivity is part of the reason that the Israeli army doesn’t.
While I am not a fan of Israeli policies, it can’t be argued that they suck at defense generally or unit cohesion in particular.

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