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April 27, 2011 at 9:54 AM #690787April 27, 2011 at 10:37 AM #689622
briansd1
GuestI don’t see the harm of adding a topic to be covered. Covering another topic need not be at the expense of math and science.
Children could write an essay about gay personalities and learn English skills at the same time.
April 27, 2011 at 10:37 AM #689688GuestI don’t see the harm of adding a topic to be covered. Covering another topic need not be at the expense of math and science.
Children could write an essay about gay personalities and learn English skills at the same time.
April 27, 2011 at 10:37 AM #690301GuestI don’t see the harm of adding a topic to be covered. Covering another topic need not be at the expense of math and science.
Children could write an essay about gay personalities and learn English skills at the same time.
April 27, 2011 at 10:37 AM #690445GuestI don’t see the harm of adding a topic to be covered. Covering another topic need not be at the expense of math and science.
Children could write an essay about gay personalities and learn English skills at the same time.
April 27, 2011 at 10:37 AM #690797GuestI don’t see the harm of adding a topic to be covered. Covering another topic need not be at the expense of math and science.
Children could write an essay about gay personalities and learn English skills at the same time.
April 27, 2011 at 10:54 AM #689657Anonymous
GuestWhat instructional materials are out there that “reflect adversely on gay, bisexual and transgender Americans”? Am I missing something here? Does this mean that in any California medical school (including nursing schools), there can be no literature that mentions AIDS as being especially predominant in homosexual males? Or does this mean that the Bible shall not ever be referenced since it condemns homosexual behavior?
Interesting how easily the words “tolerance” and “hate” are stated out of context. Just because (most) folks, including myself, don’t agree with homosexual behavior does not mean that we are intolerant nor does it mean we hate. As others have already stated, our schools need to focus on the basics. We’re so busy trying to “not hurt everyone’s feelings” that our schools are falling way behind. Man, am I glad we decided to send our kids to parochial school.
April 27, 2011 at 10:54 AM #689722GuestWhat instructional materials are out there that “reflect adversely on gay, bisexual and transgender Americans”? Am I missing something here? Does this mean that in any California medical school (including nursing schools), there can be no literature that mentions AIDS as being especially predominant in homosexual males? Or does this mean that the Bible shall not ever be referenced since it condemns homosexual behavior?
Interesting how easily the words “tolerance” and “hate” are stated out of context. Just because (most) folks, including myself, don’t agree with homosexual behavior does not mean that we are intolerant nor does it mean we hate. As others have already stated, our schools need to focus on the basics. We’re so busy trying to “not hurt everyone’s feelings” that our schools are falling way behind. Man, am I glad we decided to send our kids to parochial school.
April 27, 2011 at 10:54 AM #690336GuestWhat instructional materials are out there that “reflect adversely on gay, bisexual and transgender Americans”? Am I missing something here? Does this mean that in any California medical school (including nursing schools), there can be no literature that mentions AIDS as being especially predominant in homosexual males? Or does this mean that the Bible shall not ever be referenced since it condemns homosexual behavior?
Interesting how easily the words “tolerance” and “hate” are stated out of context. Just because (most) folks, including myself, don’t agree with homosexual behavior does not mean that we are intolerant nor does it mean we hate. As others have already stated, our schools need to focus on the basics. We’re so busy trying to “not hurt everyone’s feelings” that our schools are falling way behind. Man, am I glad we decided to send our kids to parochial school.
April 27, 2011 at 10:54 AM #690479GuestWhat instructional materials are out there that “reflect adversely on gay, bisexual and transgender Americans”? Am I missing something here? Does this mean that in any California medical school (including nursing schools), there can be no literature that mentions AIDS as being especially predominant in homosexual males? Or does this mean that the Bible shall not ever be referenced since it condemns homosexual behavior?
Interesting how easily the words “tolerance” and “hate” are stated out of context. Just because (most) folks, including myself, don’t agree with homosexual behavior does not mean that we are intolerant nor does it mean we hate. As others have already stated, our schools need to focus on the basics. We’re so busy trying to “not hurt everyone’s feelings” that our schools are falling way behind. Man, am I glad we decided to send our kids to parochial school.
April 27, 2011 at 10:54 AM #690832GuestWhat instructional materials are out there that “reflect adversely on gay, bisexual and transgender Americans”? Am I missing something here? Does this mean that in any California medical school (including nursing schools), there can be no literature that mentions AIDS as being especially predominant in homosexual males? Or does this mean that the Bible shall not ever be referenced since it condemns homosexual behavior?
Interesting how easily the words “tolerance” and “hate” are stated out of context. Just because (most) folks, including myself, don’t agree with homosexual behavior does not mean that we are intolerant nor does it mean we hate. As others have already stated, our schools need to focus on the basics. We’re so busy trying to “not hurt everyone’s feelings” that our schools are falling way behind. Man, am I glad we decided to send our kids to parochial school.
April 27, 2011 at 10:57 AM #689662bearishgurl
Participant[quote=CBad]I totally agree with Hobie. Also, I wish we could get over covering all of the politically correct categories and focus on actual History. All people should know about important people and events in history and the fact that they are black, white, gay, straight, men or women is besides the point. I’m not against kids learning about Harvey Milk but they had better be able to know where San Francisco is on a map, which Native Americans lived there, and the impact of the Gold Rush first.[/quote]
Agree, CBad. Over my full-time working life here in SD, I had many middle-aged adult co-workers of ALL races who had never left San Diego County (except maybe to travel to MX or LAX/Phillipines). Not only could they not point out SF on a map, many had NO IDEA it was in the State of CA. Nor could they find Lake Tahoe on a map or had ever heard of the Gold Rush or Native Americans. I’m dead serious here!
[quote-briansd1]… Children could write an essay about gay personalities and learn English skills at the same time.[/quote]
Agree with this, brian. They could start with Harvey Milk.
UR, I too, was educated in a bay area public school up until HS (schools were grades K-8 at that time). We DID cover all the missions in 4th grade (as children do now), had mandatory Spanish in 3rd grade and also covered the CA Gold Rush and the history of Placerville and Donner Pass but this era predated the history we are discussing here. There are many gays who have made their mark on CA and US history and should be discussed for their contributions, NOT necessarily because of their “sexual preferences,” unless THAT issue is ALSO part of their story (such as Harvey Milk).
April 27, 2011 at 10:57 AM #689727Participant[quote=CBad]I totally agree with Hobie. Also, I wish we could get over covering all of the politically correct categories and focus on actual History. All people should know about important people and events in history and the fact that they are black, white, gay, straight, men or women is besides the point. I’m not against kids learning about Harvey Milk but they had better be able to know where San Francisco is on a map, which Native Americans lived there, and the impact of the Gold Rush first.[/quote]
Agree, CBad. Over my full-time working life here in SD, I had many middle-aged adult co-workers of ALL races who had never left San Diego County (except maybe to travel to MX or LAX/Phillipines). Not only could they not point out SF on a map, many had NO IDEA it was in the State of CA. Nor could they find Lake Tahoe on a map or had ever heard of the Gold Rush or Native Americans. I’m dead serious here!
[quote-briansd1]… Children could write an essay about gay personalities and learn English skills at the same time.[/quote]
Agree with this, brian. They could start with Harvey Milk.
UR, I too, was educated in a bay area public school up until HS (schools were grades K-8 at that time). We DID cover all the missions in 4th grade (as children do now), had mandatory Spanish in 3rd grade and also covered the CA Gold Rush and the history of Placerville and Donner Pass but this era predated the history we are discussing here. There are many gays who have made their mark on CA and US history and should be discussed for their contributions, NOT necessarily because of their “sexual preferences,” unless THAT issue is ALSO part of their story (such as Harvey Milk).
April 27, 2011 at 10:57 AM #690341Participant[quote=CBad]I totally agree with Hobie. Also, I wish we could get over covering all of the politically correct categories and focus on actual History. All people should know about important people and events in history and the fact that they are black, white, gay, straight, men or women is besides the point. I’m not against kids learning about Harvey Milk but they had better be able to know where San Francisco is on a map, which Native Americans lived there, and the impact of the Gold Rush first.[/quote]
Agree, CBad. Over my full-time working life here in SD, I had many middle-aged adult co-workers of ALL races who had never left San Diego County (except maybe to travel to MX or LAX/Phillipines). Not only could they not point out SF on a map, many had NO IDEA it was in the State of CA. Nor could they find Lake Tahoe on a map or had ever heard of the Gold Rush or Native Americans. I’m dead serious here!
[quote-briansd1]… Children could write an essay about gay personalities and learn English skills at the same time.[/quote]
Agree with this, brian. They could start with Harvey Milk.
UR, I too, was educated in a bay area public school up until HS (schools were grades K-8 at that time). We DID cover all the missions in 4th grade (as children do now), had mandatory Spanish in 3rd grade and also covered the CA Gold Rush and the history of Placerville and Donner Pass but this era predated the history we are discussing here. There are many gays who have made their mark on CA and US history and should be discussed for their contributions, NOT necessarily because of their “sexual preferences,” unless THAT issue is ALSO part of their story (such as Harvey Milk).
April 27, 2011 at 10:57 AM #690484Participant[quote=CBad]I totally agree with Hobie. Also, I wish we could get over covering all of the politically correct categories and focus on actual History. All people should know about important people and events in history and the fact that they are black, white, gay, straight, men or women is besides the point. I’m not against kids learning about Harvey Milk but they had better be able to know where San Francisco is on a map, which Native Americans lived there, and the impact of the Gold Rush first.[/quote]
Agree, CBad. Over my full-time working life here in SD, I had many middle-aged adult co-workers of ALL races who had never left San Diego County (except maybe to travel to MX or LAX/Phillipines). Not only could they not point out SF on a map, many had NO IDEA it was in the State of CA. Nor could they find Lake Tahoe on a map or had ever heard of the Gold Rush or Native Americans. I’m dead serious here!
[quote-briansd1]… Children could write an essay about gay personalities and learn English skills at the same time.[/quote]
Agree with this, brian. They could start with Harvey Milk.
UR, I too, was educated in a bay area public school up until HS (schools were grades K-8 at that time). We DID cover all the missions in 4th grade (as children do now), had mandatory Spanish in 3rd grade and also covered the CA Gold Rush and the history of Placerville and Donner Pass but this era predated the history we are discussing here. There are many gays who have made their mark on CA and US history and should be discussed for their contributions, NOT necessarily because of their “sexual preferences,” unless THAT issue is ALSO part of their story (such as Harvey Milk).
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