OT: FOX News and the oil blowout

[Aecetia]

If it happened in San Diego, the surfers would riot. I agree denverite. It is a national emergency and a national tragedy. Leaving it to BP to handle does not appear to be working and I believe it calls for Federal action/ intervention. It will not matter if they are to blame or what agency rubber stamped their permits, what ultimately matters is the long term damage to the wetlands and the economy of the affected States.

[briansd1]

[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]
The fail-safe had NOTHING to do with the drilling, hence my suggestion to research “cementing”, which you obviously didn’t do prior to responding. Deep-drill technologies and methodologies have NOTHING to do with the process of cementing, which is why the cementing is done by an oil-services company, like Halliburton, versus the actual driller or rig owner.
[/quote]

Allan, I wasn’t addressing any technology in specific.

When the oil company operates a platform, it must have a fail-safe or contingency in case of an accident.

The explosion occurred and the fail-safe did not work.

There have been many attempts at plugging the gusher and none have worked. It’s been more than one month.

[briansd1]

[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]
The fail-safe had NOTHING to do with the drilling, hence my suggestion to research “cementing”, which you obviously didn’t do prior to responding. Deep-drill technologies and methodologies have NOTHING to do with the process of cementing, which is why the cementing is done by an oil-services company, like Halliburton, versus the actual driller or rig owner.
[/quote]

Allan, I wasn’t addressing any technology in specific.

When the oil company operates a platform, it must have a fail-safe or contingency in case of an accident.

The explosion occurred and the fail-safe did not work.

There have been many attempts at plugging the gusher and none have worked. It’s been more than one month.

[briansd1]

[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]
The fail-safe had NOTHING to do with the drilling, hence my suggestion to research “cementing”, which you obviously didn’t do prior to responding. Deep-drill technologies and methodologies have NOTHING to do with the process of cementing, which is why the cementing is done by an oil-services company, like Halliburton, versus the actual driller or rig owner.
[/quote]

Allan, I wasn’t addressing any technology in specific.

When the oil company operates a platform, it must have a fail-safe or contingency in case of an accident.

The explosion occurred and the fail-safe did not work.

There have been many attempts at plugging the gusher and none have worked. It’s been more than one month.

[briansd1]

[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]
The fail-safe had NOTHING to do with the drilling, hence my suggestion to research “cementing”, which you obviously didn’t do prior to responding. Deep-drill technologies and methodologies have NOTHING to do with the process of cementing, which is why the cementing is done by an oil-services company, like Halliburton, versus the actual driller or rig owner.
[/quote]

Allan, I wasn’t addressing any technology in specific.

When the oil company operates a platform, it must have a fail-safe or contingency in case of an accident.

The explosion occurred and the fail-safe did not work.

There have been many attempts at plugging the gusher and none have worked. It’s been more than one month.

[briansd1]

[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]
The fail-safe had NOTHING to do with the drilling, hence my suggestion to research “cementing”, which you obviously didn’t do prior to responding. Deep-drill technologies and methodologies have NOTHING to do with the process of cementing, which is why the cementing is done by an oil-services company, like Halliburton, versus the actual driller or rig owner.
[/quote]

Allan, I wasn’t addressing any technology in specific.

When the oil company operates a platform, it must have a fail-safe or contingency in case of an accident.

The explosion occurred and the fail-safe did not work.

There have been many attempts at plugging the gusher and none have worked. It’s been more than one month.

[ucodegen]

Brian: This is what you’re famous for: Completely ignoring the actual facts and coming back with an argument that is meaningless.

briansd1 likes to take extreme points and try to create flame wars.

From here:
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703572504575214593564769072.html

The process is supposed to prevent oil and natural gas from escaping by filling gaps between the outside of the well pipe and the inside of the hole bored into the ocean floor. Cement, pumped down the well from the drilling rig, is also used to plug wells after they have been abandoned or when drilling has finished but production hasn’t begun.

In the case of the Deepwater Horizon, workers had finished pumping cement to fill the space between the pipe and the sides of the hole and had begun temporarily plugging the well with cement; it isn’t known whether they had completed the plugging process before the blast.

As a marine biologist in a previous life, and current avid sportsman, I might be a bit biased in stating that this is a national emergency. The 10’s of thousands of folks that are affected, and will be affected, is grave cause for concern.

I agree. I think a simple solution would be to make an example of BP. They have spent way to much time futzing around and pointing fingers and not enough coming up with real solutions. They are also responsible for a spill on the Alaskan tundra where they decided not to do the maintenance clean on the insides of the pipes (by pushing a cleaning ‘pig’ through the pipe). This allowed a buildup of bacteria that eats at the inner wall of the pipe.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11696601/
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=5411425
Even more spills by BP:
http://www.cnn.com/2009/US/12/10/alaska.oil.spill/index.html

The easiest solution would be that BP must stop the leak by fixing the pipe or capping the well in 5 days (they have had several weeks so far), or all of their oil fields and drill holes within the US territorial waters become property of the US gov.

[ucodegen]

Brian: This is what you’re famous for: Completely ignoring the actual facts and coming back with an argument that is meaningless.

briansd1 likes to take extreme points and try to create flame wars.

From here:
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703572504575214593564769072.html

The process is supposed to prevent oil and natural gas from escaping by filling gaps between the outside of the well pipe and the inside of the hole bored into the ocean floor. Cement, pumped down the well from the drilling rig, is also used to plug wells after they have been abandoned or when drilling has finished but production hasn’t begun.

In the case of the Deepwater Horizon, workers had finished pumping cement to fill the space between the pipe and the sides of the hole and had begun temporarily plugging the well with cement; it isn’t known whether they had completed the plugging process before the blast.

As a marine biologist in a previous life, and current avid sportsman, I might be a bit biased in stating that this is a national emergency. The 10’s of thousands of folks that are affected, and will be affected, is grave cause for concern.

I agree. I think a simple solution would be to make an example of BP. They have spent way to much time futzing around and pointing fingers and not enough coming up with real solutions. They are also responsible for a spill on the Alaskan tundra where they decided not to do the maintenance clean on the insides of the pipes (by pushing a cleaning ‘pig’ through the pipe). This allowed a buildup of bacteria that eats at the inner wall of the pipe.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11696601/
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=5411425
Even more spills by BP:
http://www.cnn.com/2009/US/12/10/alaska.oil.spill/index.html

The easiest solution would be that BP must stop the leak by fixing the pipe or capping the well in 5 days (they have had several weeks so far), or all of their oil fields and drill holes within the US territorial waters become property of the US gov.

[ucodegen]

Brian: This is what you’re famous for: Completely ignoring the actual facts and coming back with an argument that is meaningless.

briansd1 likes to take extreme points and try to create flame wars.

From here:
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703572504575214593564769072.html

The process is supposed to prevent oil and natural gas from escaping by filling gaps between the outside of the well pipe and the inside of the hole bored into the ocean floor. Cement, pumped down the well from the drilling rig, is also used to plug wells after they have been abandoned or when drilling has finished but production hasn’t begun.

In the case of the Deepwater Horizon, workers had finished pumping cement to fill the space between the pipe and the sides of the hole and had begun temporarily plugging the well with cement; it isn’t known whether they had completed the plugging process before the blast.

As a marine biologist in a previous life, and current avid sportsman, I might be a bit biased in stating that this is a national emergency. The 10’s of thousands of folks that are affected, and will be affected, is grave cause for concern.

I agree. I think a simple solution would be to make an example of BP. They have spent way to much time futzing around and pointing fingers and not enough coming up with real solutions. They are also responsible for a spill on the Alaskan tundra where they decided not to do the maintenance clean on the insides of the pipes (by pushing a cleaning ‘pig’ through the pipe). This allowed a buildup of bacteria that eats at the inner wall of the pipe.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11696601/
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=5411425
Even more spills by BP:
http://www.cnn.com/2009/US/12/10/alaska.oil.spill/index.html

The easiest solution would be that BP must stop the leak by fixing the pipe or capping the well in 5 days (they have had several weeks so far), or all of their oil fields and drill holes within the US territorial waters become property of the US gov.

[ucodegen]

Brian: This is what you’re famous for: Completely ignoring the actual facts and coming back with an argument that is meaningless.

briansd1 likes to take extreme points and try to create flame wars.

From here:
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703572504575214593564769072.html

The process is supposed to prevent oil and natural gas from escaping by filling gaps between the outside of the well pipe and the inside of the hole bored into the ocean floor. Cement, pumped down the well from the drilling rig, is also used to plug wells after they have been abandoned or when drilling has finished but production hasn’t begun.

In the case of the Deepwater Horizon, workers had finished pumping cement to fill the space between the pipe and the sides of the hole and had begun temporarily plugging the well with cement; it isn’t known whether they had completed the plugging process before the blast.

As a marine biologist in a previous life, and current avid sportsman, I might be a bit biased in stating that this is a national emergency. The 10’s of thousands of folks that are affected, and will be affected, is grave cause for concern.

I agree. I think a simple solution would be to make an example of BP. They have spent way to much time futzing around and pointing fingers and not enough coming up with real solutions. They are also responsible for a spill on the Alaskan tundra where they decided not to do the maintenance clean on the insides of the pipes (by pushing a cleaning ‘pig’ through the pipe). This allowed a buildup of bacteria that eats at the inner wall of the pipe.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11696601/
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=5411425
Even more spills by BP:
http://www.cnn.com/2009/US/12/10/alaska.oil.spill/index.html

The easiest solution would be that BP must stop the leak by fixing the pipe or capping the well in 5 days (they have had several weeks so far), or all of their oil fields and drill holes within the US territorial waters become property of the US gov.

[ucodegen]

Brian: This is what you’re famous for: Completely ignoring the actual facts and coming back with an argument that is meaningless.

briansd1 likes to take extreme points and try to create flame wars.

From here:
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703572504575214593564769072.html

The process is supposed to prevent oil and natural gas from escaping by filling gaps between the outside of the well pipe and the inside of the hole bored into the ocean floor. Cement, pumped down the well from the drilling rig, is also used to plug wells after they have been abandoned or when drilling has finished but production hasn’t begun.

In the case of the Deepwater Horizon, workers had finished pumping cement to fill the space between the pipe and the sides of the hole and had begun temporarily plugging the well with cement; it isn’t known whether they had completed the plugging process before the blast.

As a marine biologist in a previous life, and current avid sportsman, I might be a bit biased in stating that this is a national emergency. The 10’s of thousands of folks that are affected, and will be affected, is grave cause for concern.

I agree. I think a simple solution would be to make an example of BP. They have spent way to much time futzing around and pointing fingers and not enough coming up with real solutions. They are also responsible for a spill on the Alaskan tundra where they decided not to do the maintenance clean on the insides of the pipes (by pushing a cleaning ‘pig’ through the pipe). This allowed a buildup of bacteria that eats at the inner wall of the pipe.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11696601/
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=5411425
Even more spills by BP:
http://www.cnn.com/2009/US/12/10/alaska.oil.spill/index.html

The easiest solution would be that BP must stop the leak by fixing the pipe or capping the well in 5 days (they have had several weeks so far), or all of their oil fields and drill holes within the US territorial waters become property of the US gov.

[PCinSD]

[quote=denverite]During channel surfing, I crossed FOX News many times in the past month or so. It didn’t occur to me until a few days ago that there was no coverage of the Gulf oil blowout, literally none. Is it just me or is Fox News being the advertised “Fair and Balanced” news organization?[/quote]

I watch Fox quite a bit. They’ve been covering this story closely. Every day, many times a day. Is it possible for you to have simply missed their coverage while channel surfing?

I’m not referring to the Glen Beck or Hannity segments. Just their news reporting.

[PCinSD]

[quote=denverite]During channel surfing, I crossed FOX News many times in the past month or so. It didn’t occur to me until a few days ago that there was no coverage of the Gulf oil blowout, literally none. Is it just me or is Fox News being the advertised “Fair and Balanced” news organization?[/quote]

I watch Fox quite a bit. They’ve been covering this story closely. Every day, many times a day. Is it possible for you to have simply missed their coverage while channel surfing?

I’m not referring to the Glen Beck or Hannity segments. Just their news reporting.

[PCinSD]

[quote=denverite]During channel surfing, I crossed FOX News many times in the past month or so. It didn’t occur to me until a few days ago that there was no coverage of the Gulf oil blowout, literally none. Is it just me or is Fox News being the advertised “Fair and Balanced” news organization?[/quote]

I watch Fox quite a bit. They’ve been covering this story closely. Every day, many times a day. Is it possible for you to have simply missed their coverage while channel surfing?

I’m not referring to the Glen Beck or Hannity segments. Just their news reporting.

[PCinSD]

[quote=denverite]During channel surfing, I crossed FOX News many times in the past month or so. It didn’t occur to me until a few days ago that there was no coverage of the Gulf oil blowout, literally none. Is it just me or is Fox News being the advertised “Fair and Balanced” news organization?[/quote]

I watch Fox quite a bit. They’ve been covering this story closely. Every day, many times a day. Is it possible for you to have simply missed their coverage while channel surfing?

I’m not referring to the Glen Beck or Hannity segments. Just their news reporting.

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