ot ferguson

[FlyerInHi]

Blogstar, so keep Furgeson one of the most segregated towns in America? Keep blacks from having representation in local government?

That’s bad for democracy, bad for business and impoverishes everybody.

You made a comparison to New Orleans saying there’s plenty of violence there, even with majority black leadership. I don’t think crime rates would be any different with white leadership governing a mostly black town. In fact, everything would be worse for everyone because business conventions and tourists would shun the city.

Look at the big picture, desegregation has been great for the South. Businesses came and more prosperity followed.

As a wise man said, “don’t judge me against the almighty, judge me against the alternative” (in this case, the alternative is the status quo that is Ferguson).

[NotCranky]

[quote=FlyerInHi]Blogstar, so keep Furgeson one of the most segregated towns in America? Keep blacks from having representation in local government?

That’s bad for democracy, bad for business and impoverishes everybody.

You made a comparison to New Orleans saying there’s plenty of violence there, even with majority black leadership. I don’t think crime rates would be any different with white leadership governing a mostly black town. In fact, everything would be worse for everyone because business conventions and tourists would shun the city.

Look at the big picture, desegregation has been great for the South. Businesses came and more prosperity followed.

As a wise man said, “don’t judge me against the almighty, judge me against the alternative” (in this case, the alternative is the status quo that is Ferguson).[/quote]

You know I am not pushing for Ferguson to stay in any particular way regarding race.I have said several times more balanced representation seems desirable but possibly not effective at improving anything as far as standard of living of poor or crime. It should be democratic….you must have lost your mind to not get that yet.

I knew about you being a hater before and your complete lack of humanity for Afrikaners just made it impossible not to see you as a truly despicable individual. I judge you for pretending to be loving of poor blacks, also I do judge you for absolutely hating poor whites.

[FlyerInHi]

Actually I feel we need to help poor people get better education.

It’s the low education that’s bad. What’s bad is low-education Whites hanging on to fully-rejected notions of race of a bygone era as a social crutch, like people flying the Confederate flag in the South. We ought to speak against that.

It’s not just me talking… The free markets have spoken. Businesses don’t want anything to do with those ideas. To espouse those old ideas is to impoverish everyone.

[scaredyclassic]

Anyone seen black jesus. New show on adult swim.

I find it funny.

[FlyerInHi]

[quote=Blogstar]
You know I am not pushing for Ferguson to stay in any particular way regarding race.I have said several times more balanced representation seems desirable but possibly not effective at improving anything as far as standard of living of poor or crime. It should be democratic….you must have lost your mind to not get that yet. [/quote]

Well, if people don’t demonstrate asking for change and to spur people to the ballots, nothing with change.

If you leave the cop alone, nothing will change.

If there is no Federal investigation of civil rights violations (it’s just an investigation of the local institution, with a possible settlement requiring specific changes and monitoring. Nobody will go to jail), then nothing will change.

If the media doesn’t cover the story and put pressure on public leaders, and leaders of the business community who could lose revenue, then nothing will change.

[Coronita]

[quote=FlyerInHi]Actually I feel we need to help poor people get better education.
.[/quote]

Great idea brian!!! So how many hours a week have you dedicated to this endeavor???

🙂

[FlyerInHi]

Ridiculous to suggest that you have to do everything yourself.

You can help by writing a check, or morally and politically supporting other people whose mission is to affect progress. Speaking up is also progress.

[Coronita]

[quote=FlyerInHi]Ridiculous to suggest that you have to do everything yourself.

You can help by writing a check, or morally and politically supporting other people whose mission is to affect progress. Speaking up is also progress.[/quote]

So in other words, all talk, no action… Uh, ok….

[njtosd]

[quote=FlyerInHi]Ridiculous to suggest that you have to do everything yourself.

You can help by writing a check, or morally and politically supporting other people whose mission is to affect progress. Speaking up is also progress.[/quote]

Maybe. But money and words don’t actually get anything done. Best example I can think of is Mother Theresa. Lots of people were willing to send money for her cause (and those people were definitely doing a great service) but very few were willing to live and work among the poor and the sick. If everyone supported the causes that they liked, but actually personally worked for one (bagging food at the food bank, for example), it would be great. And, brian, I am sure that there are things that you could do that wouldn’t require interaction with fat germy people.

PS – and speaking up is often just wanting to hear yourself sound like a nice guy/girl.

[CA renter]

[quote=njtosd][quote=FlyerInHi]Ridiculous to suggest that you have to do everything yourself.

You can help by writing a check, or morally and politically supporting other people whose mission is to affect progress. Speaking up is also progress.[/quote]

Maybe. But money and words don’t actually get anything done. Best example I can think of is Mother Theresa. Lots of people were willing to send money for her cause (and those people were definitely doing a great service) but very few were willing to live and work among the poor and the sick. If everyone supported the causes that they liked, but actually personally worked for one (bagging food at the food bank, for example), it would be great. And, brian, I am sure that there are things that you could do that wouldn’t require interaction with fat germy people.

PS – and speaking up is often just wanting to hear yourself sound like a nice guy/girl.[/quote]

Adding to this very good point, many homeless shelters have some sort of literacy program for homeless people. Sign up, Brian!

[UCGal]

[quote=njtosd]I am sure that there are things that you could do that wouldn’t require interaction with fat germy people. [/quote]

I just spewed coffee, literally….. Someone owes me a keyboard.

[Coronita]

….”every one of us should help out poor people…everyone but me…”

Kinda like Warren Buffet…

[FlyerInHi]

[quote=flu]….”every one of us should help out poor people…everyone but me…”

Kinda like Warren Buffet…[/quote]

errr.. Warren Buffet donated the majority of his networth to charity.

Buffet is doing a lot more good making money while other people do the helping using his money.

[Coronita]

[quote=FlyerInHi][quote=flu]….”every one of us should help out poor people…everyone but me…”

Kinda like Warren Buffet…[/quote]

errr.. Warren Buffet donated the majority of his networth to charity.

Buffet is doing a lot more good making money while other people do the helping using his money.[/quote]

Err. I thought I deleted that part about buffett. But I only deleted 1/2 of it…

I originally posted something about Buffett,
“Rich people should pay more taxes…Everyone but me…”—Warren Buffett because it was related to his hypocrisy wrto to Burger King….

Never mind… Carry on… It’s entertaining…

[Hobie]

[quote=FlyerInHi]Actually I feel we need to help poor people get better education.[/quote]

I’m making a leap here brian but I am inferring that when you refer to the ‘poor’ kids you mean ‘low performers’ as schools don’t identify students by parents income.

I’m among the politically incorrect crowd who is in favor of pushing more aid to the gifted kids.

Once you have kids brian, you will see the inner workings of schools and how much $$ is spend on programs to bring low performing kids up. Ever wonder why their are so many ‘syndromes’ now. New syndromes = new fed money for school programs. Correction: fed mandates which is paid at the local level.

Parents are already paying out of pocket for; tutors, enrichment classes, league sports, music lessons, .. it goes on and on. Not just the ‘rich’ but many middle income budget quite tightly to give their kids the best opportunity.

I feel it is a mis-allocation of public funds to ..not.. really spend on the gifted programs as those kids will be the future.

Kinda like spending tons of cash on a racehorse that always finishes last on the hopes that .. someday, with extra training, etc. he will be first.

Ps:Please don’t feel you will gain anything by flaming me and sorry for the threadjack. Just hit on a pet peeve of mine.

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