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[NotCranky]

Blacks and Indians who supported the Allies learned in France by their treatment there that they could be seen as equally human, they went back to the colonies and protectorates and what not and started ending colonial rule and chipping away at oppression. Many groups of Americans refused to make progress even in a society that largely has removed barriers and has even put up incentives .

Black people themselves call that the ‘crab in the barrel syndrome” one crab tries to escape while the other pulls them back in….and with the like of progressives and conservatives too , but as much the do gooders as the “evil”, they are being pushed back in from the outside too.

[FlyerInHi]

Blogstar, like I said before, the establishment is self perpetuating. It can be bent in a certain direction. But you can’t expect one person to change everything.

Teddy Roosevelt and Franklin Roosevelt are examples of Presidents who have changed our society for the better. I think there’s a book/movie coming out.

More specifically about Ferguson, what’s wrong with making a point that shooting unarmed citizens is not acceptable in America? How is that fake?

Maybe the cop is made an example. But we do harshly punish people to make examples for deterrence purposes.

Yes, thinking does affect behavior. Maybe I’m being fake, but I choose not to think that Brown deserved to be killed because he was a low-life. Maybe I am arrogant and condescending towards low-class people of all races, but I would never think they deserve to be shot.

BTW, in the old days, before we had laws from everything, community reproach and condescension is how people were kept in check and behaving to community standards. I guess that was the conservative way!

[FlyerInHi]

[quote=Blogstar]Blacks and Indians who supported the Allies learned in France by their treatment there that they could be seen as equally human, they went back to the colonies and protectorates and what not and started ending colonial rule and chipping away at oppression. Many groups of Americans refused to make progress even in a society that largely has removed barriers and has even put up incentives .

Black people themselves call that the ‘crab in the barrel syndrome” one crab tries to escape while the other pulls them back in….and with the like of progressives and conservatives too , but as much the do gooders as the “evil”, they are being pushed back in from the outside too.[/quote]

Ok. Suppose you’re correct.

That population is here. Wouldn’t it be to benefit to change the situation?

If not progressive policies, then what?

[NotCranky]

I din’t say one person, I said we don’t have a better alternative because the democrats don’t want to bring one forward.

[NotCranky]

[quote=FlyerInHi][quote=Blogstar]Blacks and Indians who supported the Allies learned in France by their treatment there that they could be seen as equally human, they went back to the colonies and protectorates and what not and started ending colonial rule and chipping away at oppression. Many groups of Americans refused to make progress even in a society that largely has removed barriers and has even put up incentives .

Black people themselves call that the ‘crab in the barrel syndrome” one crab tries to escape while the other pulls them back in….and with the like of progressives and conservatives too , but as much the do gooders as the “evil”, they are being pushed back in from the outside too.[/quote]

Ok. Suppose you’re correct.

That population is here. Wouldn’t it be to benefit to change the situation?

If not progressive policies, then what?[/quote]
More truth from better people…maybe the black jesus.

[FlyerInHi]

[quote=Blogstar]
More truth from better people…maybe the black jesus.[/quote]

And the truth is?

Americans aren’t known to embrace the truth. We can’t even accept the truth about health (a plain scientific subject) and do something concrete about it.

You step on the scale and you know that there’s too much calorie input.

Michele Obama who’s trying to educate us about that is called “fake” and “elitist”. We should be embracing her message.

[NotCranky]

Things like , there are too many excuses and you won’t get great jobs but you have to start living better for yourself and your kids. I am sure good policy people can come up with much better than what has been done. I am pretty sure it’s not going to happen in my lifetime and that , in the meanwhile, it’s likely we will have a crisis much worse than we have seen since the civil rights movement was making large progress.

When I was 10-18 I lived in a place that had pockets of “compton” in it. If a republican or a democrat said grow your own vegetables the answer would be “that’s slavery” or something similar…that was just the culture…the right dug in it’s heels and said, ” bullshit how do you help people who won’t help themselves” and the democrats started pandering with lies and negative policies of aid and more vague promises and now excuses and blaming others for the whole problem.

[NotCranky]

At least one more thing Brian, back to the Afrikaners, before you go hating on them for being lousy at being white, read what the British did to their ancestors and how little harm they were doing to the original inhabitants of the the cape of which there were actually not many.

[NotCranky]

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[NotCranky]

[quote=FlyerInHi]Blogstar, like I said before, the establishment is self perpetuating. It can be bent in a certain direction. But you can’t expect one person to change everything.

Teddy Roosevelt and Franklin Roosevelt are examples of Presidents who have changed our society for the better. I think there’s a book/movie coming out.

More specifically about Ferguson, what’s wrong with making a point that shooting unarmed citizens is not acceptable in America? How is that fake?

Maybe the cop is made an example. But we do harshly punish people to make examples for deterrence purposes.

Yes, thinking does affect behavior. Maybe I’m being fake, but I choose not to think that Brown deserved to be killed because he was a low-life. Maybe I am arrogant and condescending towards low-class people of all races, but I would never think they deserve to be shot.

BTW, in the old days, before we had laws from everything, community reproach and condescension is how people were kept in check and behaving to community standards. I guess that was the conservative way![/quote]

Maybe the cop wanted to make an example of why you shouldn’t be a thug? What a rediculous Idea to railroad that cop for all the cultural problems he was surrounded by. Punishing people to make an example, or to appease wrong people and wrong thinking, is wrong no matter how often it is done.

[FlyerInHi]

Thing is the cop doesn’t have the right to make the law. The standard for killing is very high.

I think the hypocrisy is that people who support the cop normally feel that “life is sacred” is a standard we ought to live by.

[NotCranky]

[quote=FlyerInHi]Thing is the cop doesn’t have the right to make the law. The standard for killing is very high.

I think the hypocrisy is that people who support the cop normally feel that “life is sacred” is a standard we ought to live by.[/quote]
If the cop wasn’t outside of the law I don’t think he should be crucified. I can think life is sacred or not and it doesn’t change that. IF the cop was within the law and was in a do or die or nearly do or die situation but within the law, the only thing he could have done better is never join the Ferguson police force with the problems in that community. I think that standard is too high.

[scaredyclassic]

[quote=Blogstar][quote=FlyerInHi][quote=Blogstar]Blacks and Indians who supported the Allies learned in France by their treatment there that they could be seen as equally human, they went back to the colonies and protectorates and what not and started ending colonial rule and chipping away at oppression. Many groups of Americans refused to make progress even in a society that largely has removed barriers and has even put up incentives .

Black people themselves call that the ‘crab in the barrel syndrome” one crab tries to escape while the other pulls them back in….and with the like of progressives and conservatives too , but as much the do gooders as the “evil”, they are being pushed back in from the outside too.[/quote]

Ok. Suppose you’re correct.

That population is here. Wouldn’t it be to benefit to change the situation?

If not progressive policies, then what?[/quote]
More truth from better people…maybe the black jesus.[/quote]

Black jess is trying to get a community vegetable garden growing to cover the pot growing … He looks like a giant wears a robe and sleeps in a vsn. His apostles are ex?;thugs and goofballs who love him. So funny.

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