OT – everything Hillary

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[quote=SK in CV][quote=bearishgurl]
When Justice Scalia died on February 13, 2016, Pres. Obama had 341 days or 11 months, 5 days left of his term (less than one year). Are you sure the reason our current Republican Senate won’t confirm any of Pres Obama’s supreme court picks in his last year of office are because he’s Black (or half-Black … as the case may be)?[/quote]

or half-black? really? why is that even worth mentioning? Has any other president ever been required to provide his birth certificate to prove he wasn’t born in Kenya? I didn’t read anything you posted except for the last paragraph. Here’s the deal. No supreme court vacancy occurring in the first 6 months of the last year of any presidents last term in office has ever not been filled by that sitting president. Even McConnell acknowledges that it’s purely political. No former president has ever been treated as poorly as this president has. None has been accused of being a liar DURING a state of the union address. None has ever been denied a hearing on a supreme court nominee.

Have you heard the tea partiers claim “I want my country back”? You know what they’re saying, right?

Yes. I’m sure.[/quote]Um, SK, you can’t be “sure” of anything except that by accusing others of racism and idiocy, you are proving yourself to be arrogant, patronizing and a bully. You stated in the link below that you feel that the (“racist”) Republican majority in the Senate is essentially “dissing” Pres Obama re: confirmation of his Supreme Court nomination for the sole reason that he is “Black.” You stated here that you felt that Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell himself was a “racist.” I don’t know anything about the “tea party,” nor do I have the time or inclination to listen to right-wing radio talk shows. And I haven’t had TV since January. The reason why I got rid of it is that I myself had only been watching it 1-3 hrs month for the last 15 years (CBS and ABC only). It wasn’t worth the price I was paying to Cox. And I didn’t even know what Fox News was until someone kept texting me clips of it this past February and I had to tell them to stop.

Remember that I have been registered as a “Dem” from the early/mid eighties until April 2016 (with a short stint as an “Independent” when I wanted to vote Bob Filner out of his longtime seat representing the 51st Congressional District … but he was re-elected anyway).

You posted here that McConnell was lying in the video I provided in the link. You explicitly stated that he was “a liar” and a “racist” (as were his fellow Republicans in the Senate) even though he (and several of his brethren) publicly denounced Trump for his public comments on Judge Curiel’s heritage.

I worked for 45 mins the other night researching what you posted here and determined that McConnell was telling the truth to Jake Tapper on CNN … that is, IF the info in Wikipedia is accurate and I suspect it is.

http://piggington.com/ot_everything_hillary#comment-268411

You “didn’t read” my findings because your recollection of “history” in this regard is a bit fuzzy and my “research” doesn’t comport with the fantasy that you have in your head of how things actually were and how they should be today.

And I can’t help it that nearly everyone around you (as you stated in the “List of local politicians supporting Trump” thread) is “ignorant” because you now live in the middle of a “deep red state.” You chose to leave your hometown of SD to move there so you have no choice but to deal with the people around you or move back “home.” Even so, you cannot be sure that at least 30% of San Diegans might not be “idiots” as well, lol ….

[quote=SK in CV][quote=bearishgurl][quote=SK in CV][quote=bearishgurl]
flu, by your recent posts on this thread and others, you seem to the reader to be developing a chip on your shoulder as it applies to the Trump candidacy where there shouldn’t be. That’s on you … NOT Trump. Maybe you, too, SK. [/quote]

I have absolutely no idea what you mean by this. Do I think Trump is a horrible candidate? Absolutely. Do I think every single person who supports him is a complete idiot? Absolutely. The worst candidate in my lifetime from either major party. Worse by an order of magnitude. For a dozen or more reasons. His lack of experience. His lack of the right temperament. His ignorance of the law. His lack of ideas. His lack of curiosity. His disdain for knowledge. His bullying tactics. His racism. His misogyny. His lack of respect for the office. His lack of respect for the press. There’s a dozen I typed without hesitation in a minute or so. But a chip on my shoulder? It’s hardly necessary for me to be critical of his candidacy.[/quote]

Your (bolded) statement is indicative of you “developing a chip on your shoulder,” imho. You could easily find yourself surrounded by “complete idiots” in the space of just a very few days to a few months. Methinks that’s a limiting posture to take and could severely limit your day to day activities and the people you associate with. But if that kind of life suits you, far be it from me to judge.[/quote]

I didn’t bold any words. You did. In my not the least bit humble opinion, the words mean exactly what they say. And your bolding them, and describing them as you have, are indicative, (again, in my not the least bit humble opinion) of you having no clue what “chip on your shoulder” means.

I think the likelihood of Trump winning is miniscule. But that said, I’ve survived just fine, being surrounded by 30% of the population that:

A: Think gay people choose to be gay
B: Think the bible is the literal word of god
C: Think evolution never happened
D: Think global warming isn’t happening or isn’t the result of human action
E: Can’t find the pacific ocean on a map
F: Think Fox News is actually news

Thanks for your concern.

BTW, exactly what policy of Trump’s that he’s actually presented for, is it that you like? Can you point me to the actual plan?[/quote]

http://piggington.com/ot_does_anyone_have_list_local_politicians_are_endorsing_trump#comment-268314

Well, I must be a “complete idiot,” then. If 30% of the entire country is a “complete idiot,” that only leaves 70% of the populace who are not “complete idiots” worth talking to or trying to get to know. Hopefully, you are able to “properly vet” everyone you meet before wasting more of your “valuable” time with them … only to find out later that they are actually “complete idiots” for voting for Trump :=0

[quote=SK in CV][quote=bearishgurl]

Wow, SK, I’ve noticed over the years that plenty of “zonies” know how to find Pacific Beach (SD) just fine. I’m disappointed to hear that your peeps in AZ are as “unenlightened” and ignorant as you say they are.

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That’s not Arizona people. That’s the entire country.[/quote] (emphasis mine)

Your whole series of posts to me on this and the “list” thread smack of someone with an air of superiority. So superior that they cannot acknowledge that they called someone out as a liar and a racist by mistake. And I’m not talking about myself, here, although in the past, you have (both overtly and covertly) implied that I, too, am a “racist.”

[SK in CV]

[quote=bearishgurl]
Your whole series of posts to me on this and the “list” thread smack of someone with an air of superiority. So superior that they cannot acknowledge that they called someone out as a liar and a racist by mistake. And I’m not talking about myself, here, although in the past, you have (both overtly and covertly) implied that I, too, am a “racist.”[/quote]

I never said anywhere that “I feel” or “I felt” anything. McConnell is a liar. McConnell is a racist. He just admitted in the last 48 hours that Trump is a racist. And he’s still supporting him anyway. And I think you’re a racist too. I don’t need to apologize for that. You do.

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[quote=SK in CV][quote=bearishgurl]
Your whole series of posts to me on this and the “list” thread smack of someone with an air of superiority. So superior that they cannot acknowledge that they called someone out as a liar and a racist by mistake. And I’m not talking about myself, here, although in the past, you have (both overtly and covertly) implied that I, too, am a “racist.”[/quote]

I never said anywhere that “I feel” or “I felt” anything. McConnell is a liar. McConnell is a racist. He just admitted in the last 48 hours that Trump is a racist. And he’s still supporting him anyway. And I think you’re a racist too. I don’t need to apologize for that. You do.[/quote]SK, you’re blinded by your “my way or the highway” mindset. You have essentially called me a racist for bringing up here the massive costs that CA has incurred for services for (as well as criminal justice system costs for) illegal immigrants. I’ve seen it first-hand for the past ~40 years and CA’s “unfunded mandates” over that time frame are likely in the $1T+ category by now. There are dozens of websites (some govm’t websites) detailing in lengthy reports this massive outlay of cash by CA taxpayers over many years due to being unreimbursed by the Federal Govm’t for these services. Everyone in government in CA who has any power at all is acutely aware of the adverse affect illegal immigration has had on this state and has had their own dept’s budget suffer because of it. All the while many of CA’s highways have been crumbling for years.

You’ve chosen to “shoot the messenger” who dares to discuss CA’s most prominent, seemingly intractable, elephant in the room, here. It doesn’t make you “look good” by doing so.

If Trump believes he can have a wall built along our ~1000 mile southern land border to protect this country’s interests and stop the sieve of northbound people (nearly all “indigent”) who are an endless money drain for local, state and Federal government coffers, then I say let him try. He can start right here in San Ysidro, since it is the largest border crossing of all of them.

This opinion doesn’t make me or anyone else that is in favor of seeing this wall built a “racist.” You might be “shocked” as to how many thousands of native-born or legal-resident persons of “Hispanic origin” from all across the country (incl “border dwellers”) agree with me!

[SK in CV]

[quote=bearishgurl]This opinion doesn’t make me or anyone else that is in favor of seeing this wall built a “racist.” You might be “shocked” as to how many thousands of native-born or legal-resident persons of “Hispanic origin” from all across the country (incl “border dwellers”) agree with me![/quote]

The wall doesn’t make Trump a racist. (That wall, btw, will never be built. If it was built, it would never work.) Your pointing out facts don’t make you a racist. That doesn’t change the fact that Trump is a racist. You’re supporting a racist. You know all the facts that make him a racist. That, and a dozen or more of your posts here make it clear you’re a racist. Again, I don’t need to apologize for that. You should. Or own up to it. You’re supporting a flat out racist. You’re a flat out racist.

And yes, thousands of Hispanics will vote for Trump. Good luck with that. There’s 55 million Hispanics in the country. It’s estimated that 10 million will vote. Again, thousands will vote for Trump. That should win him…….nothing.

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[quote=SK in CV][quote=bearishgurl]This opinion doesn’t make me or anyone else that is in favor of seeing this wall built a “racist.” You might be “shocked” as to how many thousands of native-born or legal-resident persons of “Hispanic origin” from all across the country (incl “border dwellers”) agree with me![/quote]

The wall doesn’t make Trump a racist. (That wall, btw, will never be built. If it was built, it would never work.) Your pointing out facts don’t make you a racist. That doesn’t change the fact that Trump is a racist. You’re supporting a racist. You know all the facts that make him a racist. That, and a dozen or more of your posts here make it clear you’re a racist. Again, I don’t need to apologize for that. You should. Or own up to it. You’re supporting a flat out racist. You’re a flat out racist.

And yes, thousands of Hispanics will vote for Trump. Good luck with that. There’s 55 million Hispanics in the country. It’s estimated that 10 million will vote. Again, thousands will vote for Trump. That should win him…….nothing.[/quote]”All Trump supporters are racists” is your blanket “put down” of 30-40% of voters in this country (and that was only in the primary). They’re all “racists” but you’re not. I can see why more than a few Piggs will support Trump and vote for Trump and not post about it here with the likes of you on this board.

No one has asked you for an apology here. I honestly don’t care if you think I’m a “racist” because you know nothing about me. It has become apparent to all reading this thread and watching the CNN video I provided that your claim here that McConnell lied on CNN and is a “racist” is all in your head. But you’ll never own up to it, even when the proof is staring you in the face.

So much for your credibility ….

[SK in CV]

[quote=bearishgurl]”All Trump supporters are racists” is your blanket “put down” of 30-40% of voters in this country (and that was only in the primary). They’re all “racists” but you’re not. I can see why more than a few Piggs will support Trump and vote for Trump and not post about it here with the likes of you on this board.

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Me? I’m pretty sure I’m not the guy that said I can’t get a fair trial from an American judge because he’s Mexican. You know I’m not the first person to call Trump racist, right? You know the speaker of the house said it, right? And you know the speaker of the house is the highest ranking republican in government right now, right? You know that Lindsey Graham called him racist, right? (you know who he is, right?) Mitch McConnell had multiple opportunities to say that what Trump said earlier this week was flat out racist. He’s a liar, and now a chicken shit. So he didn’t say it. But when some of the most powerful elected officials in his own party call him a racist, he’s pretty much a racist.

And you? You know he’s a racist, and you’re still voting for him. It’s possible that some people who like him don’t know he’s a racist. They could just be morons. But everyone who knows he’s a racist, and is still voting for him….they support racism…so they’re pretty much racists. If you see a gap in my logic here, please share. If there’s a good reason that you’re not a racist, even though you’re supporting a racist, (and a man who has promised to nominate judges who will (not might, will) overturn Roe v. Wade if given the opportunity) please share it. Otherwise, you owe a lot of people an apology for being a racist.

[joec]

I admit I am probably a racist, but I think a lot of people are racist, but just too polite to claim they aren’t or never make so and so comments, etc…

I think Trump is an idiot and also a racists and just looking to enrich himself and say he “was” POTUS while he can.

There are probably different degrees of racism, but from knowing a few Qualcomm workers too, it sounds like that whole company has tons of racists too.

It sounds like certain races of people mostly hang and support people of their race, ever go to an Indian kid birthday party? Only see Indians. Does that make them racists?

All studies have stated that people are less trusting now than years past. This may have to do with people who aren’t the same as us moreso in the US now than in the 60s. This is probably why Japan refuses to open up immigration since it solves the lack of children/workers issues, but opens up other social problems to deal with (less caring/support for people of a diff race).

https://medium.com/@slowerdawn/the-decline-of-trust-in-the-united-states-fb8ab719b82a

[SK in CV]

[quote=joec]
It sounds like certain races of people mostly hang and support people of their race, ever go to an Indian kid birthday party? Only see Indians. Does that make them racists?

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No, it doesn’t. It’s not just Indians. Immigrants from most every country that I can think of are pretty much the same. There’s a woman I went to school with, and I reconnected with her on FB a few years ago. She’s 3rd generation American born of Greek descent. Her great-grandparents immigrated 150 years ago. Two-thirds of her facebook friends are Greek, including, I think, every Greek person I ever knew in the 55 years I lived in SD.

That doesn’t make her, or other Greeks racist. Doesn’t mean they’re not either. All of us seek others with similar interests and backgrounds.

Racism is the belief that one race is superior or inferior to another. That’s not the same as saying you like hanging with people like you. That’s a societal remnant of a very particular stage of childhood development. Some of us outgrow it. Some never do. Trump hasn’t. Many of his supporters haven’t.

[FlyerInHi]

Republicans have accused Hillary of running for Obama’s third term.

Interestingly, that has worked out pretty well for Hillary in winning the primary because Obama is more popular than Hillary with young people and would be Sanders supporters.

Obama’s popularity has been going up in the general electorate. So while a third Obama term might cause some seething among republicans, it’s a prospect that is generally quite popular.

[moneymaker]

Am I the only one that thought after reading this thread that POTUS (President of the United States) stood for “piece of totally useless shit”? Whether Trump is a racist or not I don’t know, but the comparison between his speeches and those of Hitler are scary.

[PCinSD]

The Coming Constitutional Crisis Over Hillary Clinton’s EmailGate

[bearishgurl]

SK, the women of the US got their justice with the SCOTUS this morning, written by none other than J. Ruth Bader Ginsburg. See, she WAS able to make a difference in womens’ lives in her lifetime!

You can relax, now.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/06/27/abortion-is-safer-than-childbirth-ruth-bader-ginsburg-writes-after-historic-supreme-court-ruling/

[livinincali]

[quote=FlyerInHi]
Obama’s popularity has been going up in the general electorate. So while a third Obama term might cause some seething among republicans, it’s a prospect that is generally quite popular.[/quote]

Obama’s certainly more popular than Trump of Hilary and for a lot of people a third term would be the preferred option, but even then his approval rating is around 50% so that’s not saying much. Many incumbent presidents tend to be pretty popular. Bill Clinton might still be president if we didn’t have term limits.

[SK in CV]

[quote=bearishgurl]SK, the women of the US got their justice with the SCOTUS this morning, written by none other than J. Ruth Bader Ginsburg. See, she WAS able to make a difference in womens’ lives in her lifetime!

You can relax, now.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/06/27/abortion-is-safer-than-childbirth-ruth-bader-ginsburg-writes-after-historic-supreme-court-ruling/%5B/quote%5D

No, I can’t. You think women haters and forced-birthers are going to relax? They will challenge and damage women’s health the moment they get the chance. And the only way to prevent that chance is to protect the court from ideologues like Thomas, Alito and Scalia.

[Anonymous]

Lol “women haters”

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