ot: Donald sterling

[Coronita]

You think the NBA would accept bitcoins to purchase the Clippers? I think I have a couple around…..

[spdrun]

Similarly, if you own a McDonald’s franchise, you have your own business. They can’t take away your business, but if they take away the franchise under which you operate, then you a deprived of revenue. So you are “forced” to sell if they want you to sell.

If you own the building and equipment, could you change it to a Flyer’s Hawaiian Burgers and Fries? What’s in a name?

[paramount]

[quote=scaredyclassic]
kind of. he cannot be prosecuted and jailed. but the NBA has its own rules he seems to have signed on to. [/quote]

Do those rules include the suppression of free speech?

[paramount]

This whole debacle also reminds me of the attack on the Mozilla CEO by the Velvet/Gay Mafia. I wonder if there is a Black Mafia who took a page out of the Velvet Mafia’s handbook?

Again, not defending what he said…

[SK in CV]

[quote=paramount][quote=scaredyclassic]
kind of. he cannot be prosecuted and jailed. but the NBA has its own rules he seems to have signed on to. [/quote]

Do those rules include the suppression of free speech?[/quote]

Check the constitution. Not the NBA constitution. That other one. The concept of “free speech” is based on the limitations on the power of government. This is not a free speech issue. His speech was not suppressed by the government.

[scaredyclassic]

if you don’t want to be subject to NBA rules, you don’t have to buy a team.

lots of contracts have morals clauses.

hell, even the us gov can suppress speech of military personnel, kick you out for morals clause type reasons, even for adultery.

but in general, you can say what you like , with certain time place and manner restrictions, and not get prosecuted or penalized by the government…the NBA is not the govt

[FlyerInHi]

[quote=SK in CV] This is not a free speech issue. His speech was not suppressed by the government.[/quote]

Exactly. This is a case of business executives making the decisions that are best for their organizations.

[no_such_reality]

[quote=FlyerInHi][quote=SK in CV] This is not a free speech issue. His speech was not suppressed by the government.[/quote]

Exactly. This is a case of business executives making the decisions that are best for their organizations.[/quote]

In addition to the morale clauses there’s also typical clauses about behavior and statements that are detrimental to the organization.

His behavior is obviously now detrimental to the org.

[paramount]

[quote=no_such_reality]

His behavior is obviously now detrimental to the org.[/quote]

I checked for the NBA constitution and couldn’t find one…and just because the NBA makes certain rules doesn’t mean they are enforceable.

It’s not like he went to the press club in wash dc and made these statements, they were made in private. Pillow talk.

Shouldn’t matter what you own, this was supposed to be a PRIVATE conversation behind closed doors. His dirtball mistress should be investigated.

In court, can illegally obtained evidence be used against you? I would hope not.

It really doesn’t surprise me that so many piggs would be a part of this lynch mob.

[CA renter]

I don’t think most of us are part of any lynch mob. Personally, I agree that the most disgusting part of this story is the mistress and her leaking a very private recorded conversation to the press (either directly, or indirectly).

Clearly, Donald Sterling is no moral icon. He’s a complete dirtbag, as far as I’m concerned, but I agree that private conversations between two people are just that…private.

[no_such_reality]

USA Today article, sponsors are fleeing the ship see quote below. Do you think they should wait? Do you think they should say, no no, nobody should know that that was an illegl tape?

Do you think the knee jerk reactionary california public is going to care if it’s an illegal tape when your name is still hanging up there during clipper games?

Again, this is a FRANCHISE. In a Franchise, you own the debt and that’s about it, the FRANCHISOR, the parent company, owns the brand, the product rights and usually complete control of how stuff is done.

You, ‘the owner’, will do it their way…

That’s not just the NBA, that’s virtually every franchise with a solid national brand.

Public opinion isn’t bound by rules of the court. It’s a privte conversatin that was illegal recorded isn’t a defense for behaving like the schmuck everyone thinks you are.

That’s the core of ‘community’. They AGREE to live together under a unwritten set os norms.

This is America, you can do what you want, just don’t whine when the community kicks your *ss out for not staying in the norms.

Those norms have shifted pretty dramatically since Sterling was a young man.

[quote]
LOS ANGELES – Sponsors are pulling a fast break away from the Los Angeles Clippers and their embattled owner, Donald Sterling.

As the condemnation of Sterling and his racially insensitive comments spread Monday, major financial supporters of the NBA franchise announced they were severing ties with the Clippers.

In rapid succession, the mass exodus included used car seller CarMax, State Farm Insurance, Kia Motors America, airline Virgin America, P. Diddy’s water brand, AQUAHydrate, Red Bull, Yokohama tires and Mercedes-Benz.

[/quote]

[spdrun]

Personally, I agree that the most disgusting part of this story is the mistress and her leaking a very private recorded conversation to the press (either directly, or indirectly).

Disgusting: yep, in more ways than one. If not for her spray tan, she’d look like your average anorexic methhead.

[SK in CV]

[quote=CA renter]I don’t think most of us are part of any lynch mob. Personally, I agree that the most disgusting part of this story is the mistress and her leaking a very private recorded conversation to the press (either directly, or indirectly).

Clearly, Donald Sterling is no moral icon. He’s a complete dirtbag, as far as I’m concerned, but I agree that private conversations between two people are just that…private.[/quote]

Really? I’m shocked you feel this way. The most disgusting part is not Sterling’s outrageously dickish behavior, but rather that someone brought it to the public’s attention?

For what it’s worth, the woman who made the recordings has denied that she ever had an intimate relationship with Sterling, and that she was not the one who released the recordings.

[spdrun]

It was a PRIVATE CONVERSATION between him and his mistress (let’s not kid ourselves). I’m pretty sure that everyone has said things in the heat of anger that they don’t want to be public.

Sure, she won’t admit to releasing the recordings. That might open her to civil and criminal liability.

[no_such_reality]

That was a conversation?

[quote=spdrun]It was a PRIVATE CONVERSATION between him and his mistress (let’s not kid ourselves). I’m pretty sure that everyone has said things in the heat of anger that they don’t want to be public.

Sure, she won’t admit to releasing the recordings. That might open her to civil and criminal liability.[/quote]

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