OT: Carlsbad Police Brutality

[paramount]

In viewing these videos, I’d say she is lucky to be alive…her children were in danger as well. Note to self: Stay the hell out of Carlsbad.

https://youtu.be/WeBKYfHL2uw

[bearishgurl]

Absolutely unbelievable, paramount. Thanks for sharing!

[Hobie]

Great…. North County is going to get its own chapter of, “Women of WalMart Lives Matter” now.

[CA renter]

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[CA renter]

[quote=Hobie]Great…. North County is going to get its own chapter of, “Women of WalMart Lives Matter” now.[/quote]

That was funny, though I don’t think she’s necessarily a “woman of Walmart.” Certainly the “middle-aged, minivan-driving, white women of Carlsbad” type, though.

[spdrun]

The asshole who did this deserves to be rear-ended in an old Crown Vic. Harsh? Maybe. But fuck that cowardly piece of shit. Bet he beats his wife or girlfriend as well.

As far as staying out of Carlsbad, I’m sure every department has a few fuckups like that cop. Maybe if gross brutality was an offense punishable by a firing squad on the nearest courthouse lawn, psychos like him would think twice.

[all]

Said the cop securing the perimeter: “If she didn’t do anything she would stop resisting.”

Hahn ended up being charged with felony resisting arrest and battery on a peace officer. For two years, she battled the charges in court, Geragos said. It wasn’t until an investigator he hired found video of the incident that they were able to get the charges dismissed.
http://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/news/2015/oct/05/lawsuit-carlsbad-police-excessive-force-valencia/

[NotCranky]

Over the last ten years I have had to report some crime , unfortunately. The Sheriff deputies could not write an accurate report to save their lives. In one case a detective made a very serious lie to cover his incompetency in the investigation. You can imagine where victims rights go when they do that.

In the other case I asked the detective to consider fixing the report. He said the issues were insignificant. The most blaring defect was about whether the crimes had happened once or 3 times. He wrote in his closing remarks that I had stated that the crime only occurred once , when I had said 3 times and had described each scenario in detail. I know it’s insignificant in that he wasn’t going to do a damn thing about it anyway, but geez, how could the victim think it was insignificant? How could the officer think he was giving the idea that he was protecting anyone?

Many other mistakes in report as well. Can’t go into those details here. I felt like I was in one of those games kids play where someone says something and it gets passed down a line of 30 kids until something completely unlike the original statement comes out. Trust me , I know there is no point in trying to go over his head. How good is it going to be in court, or in a deposition, if the victim has no other recourse than to say that the crime report is a POS? Not only does one get the idea that they are not being protected but also that the cop just doesn’t care.

Their tendency to be bullies who are above criticism is going to be a big impediment to getting better results anywhere within their duties. The brutality is terrible but we have some real keystone cops in a lot or ways. I can see this going very dystopian or even more dystopian in the future.

[spdrun]

Blogstar — could you have asked to make a written statement and have it attached to the report?

[NotCranky]

I met the officer in the lobby of the substation and that’s where he said the errors were insignificant. I went home and emailed him my concerns without complaining too much, or berating him. Just the facts. I laid out corrections for what I felt were the four most important things. I know to him that makes me a trouble maker. That’s another big attitude problem with cops , you go from victims to trouble maker in the blink of an eye. There are reasons to set the record straight, even if they are trying to shit can complaints as fast as they can. I did not get a response to my email and never will but it’s documented and I feel a little bit better about it.

With the detective that lied , I pushed it up, they have citizen review board and whatnot to direct you to the exits and that’s about it. His boss called me paranoid and praised the lousy lying detective. That’s where I learned to just set the record straight as best you can and move along.

[spdrun]

In the future, I would give them a formal, written statement first. Ideally notarized. Then they can’t play games like this without it looking questionable.

Were the cops incompetent, or were they protecting someone whom they knew?

[NotCranky]

They don’t care if you “formalize” anything. This is a trivial matter to them and everyone else. Look how comfortable they are beating people and think about whether a complaint about a very poor job on a police report matters to them, to the DA????

In the case where the detective lied, he was protecting himself. He claimed that he found a substantial piece of evidence on his first visit like he should have. But I found it after he left and called and a deputy came out and impounded it. It is very easy to prove that he lied. But, that was an arson and I found out that if there wasn’t potentially money in it for the insurance company they pretty much weren’t going to do much investigating anyway.

In the recent case, the report writing itself was incompetence. Pure incompetence. The statement about saying I said it only happened once , when it happened 3 times really makes me wonder if manipulation wasn’t involved for one reason or another. Probably just incompetency. Hard to believe, but probably true. Maybe they like to wreck cases before they get started.
I thought for a while , maybe they write it badly to test my story…but I doubt that too…in this case anyway.

[Anonymous]

The video clearly shows battery by the police officer, possibly a felony.

Looks like the statute of limitations is two years, so no criminal charges. But we already know the DA doesn’t give a fuck about thug cops.

PD will give the usual pathetic excuses in a press release. Maybe the victim will win the lawsuit and the taxpayers will foot the bill. Zero accountability for the perpetrators.

The video camera will continue to expose the absurdity of police lies, and the credibility of law enforcement in the US will continue to spiral.

It won’t stop until cops start doing time.

[spdrun]

Is there a statute of limitations on a Federal rap of civil rights violation under color of law?

[treehugger]

I watched the video and it looks bad and I would not defend nor condone that behavior. However, I must say not all Carlsbad cops are bad. I lived in Carlsbad for years (now next door in Oceanside) and have been pulled over there, the cop was very nice and respectful and let me go with a warning. Years later I got married in Carlsbad and our wedding party was loud and went late, the cops showed up multiple times and could not have been nicer. We even took pictures with them.

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