OT: Carlsbad Police Brutality

[NotCranky]

I don’t actually agree with you CA renter. The second cop is a criminal. I don’t know what happened to get the likely resisting arrest and initial struggle with the first cop started , so it’s not a closed case on the earlier events. That’s where we agree.

The woman was pulled over for a seatbelt violation, was it her belt or the kids? Was it her kid’s and she told the cop to mind his own business? Did she just get hysterical and refuse to take a ticket? Did she “go off ” for some other reason. I am pretty sure she “went off”. But I don’t know.

[paramount]

[quote=Blogstar]

The woman was pulled over for a seatbelt violation, was it her belt or the kids? Was it her kid’s and she told the cop to mind his own business? Did she just get hysterical and refuse to take a ticket? Did she “go off ” for some other reason. I am pretty sure she “went off”. But I don’t know.[/quote]

It’s pure speculation – she may have went off because she wasn’t doing anything wrong – following a verbal assualt by cops.

The seatbelt violation was trumped up and phony, it was a fraudulent excuse to retaliate (most likely).

[ltsddd]

[quote=CA renter]It was pretty clear in this video that she was putting up a fight and resisting arrest. [/quote]

Try having someone pressing their knees on your head, neck or chest and let me know if your instinct is to “resist” or not.

And watch the video again. Didn’t see much of a resistance there until after the second cop showed up. The video panned away but I am pretty sure the action of the second cop is the main reason why “she was putting up a fight” – on her belly, btw.

The second cop that showed up and charging in like rambo made what looked like a routine arrest into a worse situation.

[CA renter]

[quote=ltsdd][quote=CA renter]It was pretty clear in this video that she was putting up a fight and resisting arrest. [/quote]

Try having someone pressing their knees on your head, neck or chest and let me know if your instinct is to “resist” or not.

And watch the video again. Didn’t see much of a resistance there until after the second cop showed up. The video panned away but I am pretty sure the action of the second cop is the main reason why “she was putting up a fight” – on her belly, btw.

The second cop that showed up and charging in like rambo made what looked like a routine arrest into a worse situation.[/quote]

Agree, the second cop looked like he was experiencing “roid rage.” Even the way he drove in reverse at a high speed next to a park where children are playing showed that he wasn’t thinking straight. But we also don’t know how the call came in. Did the first cop say that he was struggling with someone who was violent? We just don’t know. Until we do, it’s all conjecture.

[NotCranky]

[quote=paramount][quote=Blogstar]

The woman was pulled over for a seatbelt violation, was it her belt or the kids? Was it her kid’s and she told the cop to mind his own business? Did she just get hysterical and refuse to take a ticket? Did she “go off ” for some other reason. I am pretty sure she “went off”. But I don’t know.[/quote]

It’s pure speculation – she may have went off because she wasn’t doing anything wrong – following a verbal assualt by cops.

The seatbelt violation was trumped up and phony, it was a fraudulent excuse to retaliate (most likely).[/quote]

Of course it’s speculation ,but by way of asking questions. Not pretending I know the whole story based on a very loose media reports , like a few of you are doing. Give it time for more to come out before you pretend to know everything.

Also, I don’t expect to be able to go off even if I have not done anything wrong. If you do you were raised wrong. I fear cops as much or more as I respect them, but common sense says acting like and ass or being hysterical isn’t going to work.

It’s not like the police in Carlsbad are disappearing people like this woman.

[bearishgurl]

Cops in CA have legal protection under the cloak of express and implied immunity for their actions. ALL of their (official) duties are presumably performed within the line of duty and thus they are legally “immune” from their actions. Absent a jury verdict to the contrary, CA cops will continue to get away with the way they operate. In the presence of a jury verdict for the plaintiff/victim, the offending cop(s) will be summarily slapped on the wrist and told by their Dept to shore up their “attitude” going forward … “or else.”

That’s the way the “system” works, folks.

[paramount]

[quote=bearishgurl]Cops in CA have legal protection under the cloak of express and implied immunity for their actions. ALL of their (official) duties are presumably performed within the line of duty and thus they are legally “immune” from their actions. Absent a jury verdict to the contrary, CA cops will continue to get away with the way they operate. In the presence of a jury verdict for the plaintiff/victim, the offending cop(s) will be summarily slapped on the wrist and told by their Dept to shore up their “attitude” going forward … “or else.”

That’s the way the “system” works, folks.[/quote]

Yet another reason to either leave the state or work to break ALL public employee unions in California.

[spdrun]

Also, I don’t expect to be able to go off even if I have not done anything wrong. If you do you were raised wrong. I fear cops as much or more as I respect them, but common sense says acting like and ass or being hysterical isn’t going to work.

Actually, with the whole freedom of speech thing, she SHOULD be able to go off without risk of state violence. And the cop should stand there and take it, same as any other employee dealing with a disgruntled member of the public.

Raised wrong? Nah, maybe she was raised right. Not to respect shitstains, just because they happen to wear a uniform.

Hope she sues and bends over the city of Carlsbad bigtime. Hope the cops involved get hit by a large Mack truck.

[FlyerInHi]

I’m actually sick of ill bred people. No respect for social conventions, bad manners, kids out of contol, trashy behavior. It’s an epidemic.

[spdrun]

Yes on the last two, no on the former. If social conventions were respected, we’d always have to marry within our own race, religion, and age group. No fuckin thanks.

[paramount]

[quote=Blogstar]

common sense says acting like and ass or being hysterical isn’t going to work.

[/quote]

I thought you were referring to the cop.

[spdrun]

lol

[paramount]

[quote=FlyerInHi]I’m actually sick of ill bred people. No respect for social conventions, bad manners, kids out of contol, trashy behavior. It’s an epidemic.[/quote]

Honestly – in places like San Diego, Vegas I could totally see that being the case. But it isn’t an epidemic in Temecula (seriously) at all.

Why? Because Temecula is a conservative area where people have common sense/strong work ethics combined with great traditional/family values. Temecula is a very low crime area for good reasons.

And because it’s affordable to live in Temecula, many families have one parent stay at home to raise their children (a novel concept these days…).

[spdrun]

San Diegans didn’t strike me as rude, as much as midwesternly distant in some areas.

[flyer]

Sad to see so many of these incidents, but glad many are being visually documented, so (hopefully) those involved can be dealt with appropriately.

The world definitely seems to be evolving into a more hostile environment on all fronts, but it really shouldn’t come as too much of a surprise when you realize, even in the US, much of the population are literally fighting for their lives when it comes to things like long-term financial security/survival (and all that
includes–jobs, retirement, education, housing–etc.) for themselves and their families. Since a lot of anger goes along with that, it does tend to create chaos in society at many levels.

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